Unfortunately, as we have seen, we'll get 4 years of battles over stupidity. We no longer have a "loyal opposition".

The last five don't warm my heart. DADT, DOMA, etc. And don't get started on Regan/Bush I.
And really, can the GOP get any worse than the last 7 years? I pay a fair amount of attention to history and it is hard to remember a political time in history that compares to this. Our country has had worse times (Civil war, Aliens and sedition, etc.). But I can't think of a time that the opposition party has been quite this "disloyal" to the country. Our foreign policy is in tatters because we no longer believe that "politics ends at the waters edge". Especially if you believe ANY of the implications of the Russian involvement.

There was no real sense of country, which lead to a complete loss of loyalty to it, or the Constitution. In that case it manifested itself in a desire to "start over". Which of course as you suggest lead to one of the worst periods in our history, which didn't really get much better after the war was over, at least for Black America.

Which would lead me to wonder where this is leading. I don't really hear succession talk these days. Much of the current trend would seem to point more towards some sort of more "authoritarian" form of governing.

Today we tend to think in terms of White and Black. But the reality is that in the past, they were much more selective. The exact country of origin was important. Where we need to get is where we stop wet worrining about who, and focus upon why. I suspect we a good generation or two away.

They deserve trump and deserve to lose for all the crap they have thrown at the left.

The after effects of this Party when they get globbered will be rascinating. We will have the GOPe and the GOPt. Neither will be enough to challenge Demorats in the short term.

Force the various and sundered pieces of the former GOP coalition to be the ones to form new parties from scratch.

But thankfully, you can find them here.

https://hillaryspeeches.com/

and fuck the GOP and alt right assholes.

President, it was the tipping point in encouraging the emergence of the alt right within the Republican Party, due to their anger that the likes of Ryan and McConnell couldn't bring him down.

That's an amazingly good point. His mere existence forced out into the open the simmering underbelly of the GOP bigotry. I always said that the most important thing about his presidency was that people who were 10 years old when he was elected would be 18 year old voters when he was done. And that all they would have ever "known" for their politically conscious life was a first family of color. But you're right, much like Bull Connor force the horror of Jim Crow to be faced by the vast majority of the white population in this country, Obama forced out into the open, the racism and bigotry of much of the GOP "base". That genie can't be put back into the bottle and maybe FINALLY we can truly move beyond it all.

bottle".

It's out there now, 75%+ of the Republican voters are willing to vote for a Racist, amoral, untrustworthy, lying bigot because of the hatred that has been bred into them about Hillary Clinton. Most of the Republican establishment have fallen in line, to support the party's nominee despite him being a Racist, amoral, untrustworthy, lying bigot. AND they know it. There's no one strong enough to stand up to Trump now, who will be strong enough to grab a hold of the GOP after November. The centre has no backbone. Ryan will be blamed by the Trumpists because he didn't back Trump strongly enough, so he already has a split on his hands, not to mention Cruz waiting in the shadows. So you've got bitter Trumpists, many of the Alt-Right, Religious Right, Social Conservatives, Fiscal Conservatives and Moderates.

How can they possibly reform their party after the expected beating in November ? There will be recriminations from all sides.

If Hillary wins and the Dems win back the Senate, but fail to win the House, there will be a temptation to paper over the chasms in an effort to filibuster as much as possible. How will that dynamic work ? We've seen in the last 8 years that Republicans were simply not allowed to work in a bipartisan manner due to what can only be described as a racist effort by McConnell and Ryan to make sure the "the Black Man" gets NOTHING. That genie is also out of the bottle, will that continue against Hillary ?

I think the only way to move beyond is for a total Democratic victory, Presidency, Senate and House. If the Reps hold onto any one of those, it will give the some hope, and the hate & racism will continue. At that point it's up to the Democrats not to wallow in victory but continue on and attack with a view to the 2018 midterms.

I understand the focus on the presidential election. But, the reality is that the important thing is the House. If we can get that, yes it will be the fertile ground of conservative Dems, but we can at least get SOME movemt forward.

Not only for the Democratic Party, the Country AND the Republican Party, is a landslide victory for Hillary with the House and Senate turning blue. It would be an utter rejection of Trump, the parasites in the Republican establishment, the lunatic fringe and the racism/hate that they represent.

I am not too sure that Republican voters turning to Hillary in Presidential race, will stay Democratic for the down ballot. MSM seem to think otherwise, but I would love a sustained campaign linking Trump to all these candidates who refused to disavow his racist rhetoric.

I'm sure they'll be hitting back that voters should not allow"Hillary" to control the House and the Senate as well, so that they can keep a "watch" over her. I hope there's a Democratic Super PAC with money to push back on that, because what did their watch achieve for the last 8 years, only paralysis of Government.

You always hear that we need to have a "national conversation" on race, but we never do. It's too uncomfortable and people are intransigent. But this kind of forces it, and since Trump is so symbolic of their movement, it even puts a nationwide vote to it. Wow.

narrow victory for Hillary (though arguably it might be better for the Democrats, that the Republicans continue in a state of denial), because it needs to heal, it needs to reconcile and above on it needs to move on. Morally, social justice shouldn't be a debating point, but that has strangled the Republicans since the 60s, because it has largely been portrayed as just an African American or Hispanic issue, when it is just as much about a White issue. And many of those Whites are voting against their own interests, in voting Republican. A blistering victory for Hillary (&Down Ballot) would offer an opportunity to break through for the first time in 50 years.

The one caveat I should say is that if that happened, that the opportunity must NOT be wasted. In 2011, here in Ireland, the biggest party Fianna Fail were decimated, and the coalition of Fine Gael & Labour won a massive majority. They mostly took the best options for the country but the optics of some of their decisions were truly amateurish and awful. In the resultant General Election this year, Labour were almost wiped out, and Fine Gael lost lots of seats. The point I'm making is that if Hillary gets the opportunity, that sacred first 100 days will never be as important, and she cannot afford to get side-tracked in stupid, self inflicted problems.

The virus has infected the host and consumed it. The new Alt-White party is not the party of Lincoln, it's the party of racist scum.