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Response to PJMcK (Reply #1)

brush

(53,745 posts)
2. Two weeks. Trump's already got Ailes, a sexual harrasser on board. The last thing he needs is a . .
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:27 PM
Aug 2016

domestic violence abuser, who also happens to be a white supremacist, heading up his campaign.

I say two weeks and Bannon will be gone as anything outside of that leaves no time whatsoever to put someone else in place to create an appearance of order out of the disarray.

Hey, isn't Trump supposed to be the brilliant businessman who hires only the best?

I just hope Hillary can get a TV ad out quickly that points all this sexual disfunction out in the Trump campaign leadership.

RapSoDee

(421 posts)
8. Sadly for Republicans, there is some truth in that...
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:14 AM
Aug 2016

...They take the Republican War on Women literally.

Mz Pip

(27,433 posts)
4. He won't
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:29 PM
Aug 2016

Trump has to know he'll lose this election. Right wing media mogul is his consolation prize. Having Ailes and Bannon on board is just the beginning.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
6. Not if Rachel Maddow is right.....
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:06 AM
Aug 2016

The connection between Bannon and Conway is.... Robert Mercer, Wall Street billionaire.

Conway ran a super PAC for Ted Cruz paid for by Robert Mercer. When Cruz lost, they renamed the super PAC and took out hit ads on Hillary supporting Trump.

Mercer owns or financially backs Breibart. Hence Bannon.

Breibart.co.uk backed Brexit hence the appearance of Farage.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Yup. Seems probable Mercer bought these two in.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:49 AM
Aug 2016

I'll play though, SticksnStones: How long for Bannon, with all his Breitbart baggage, his white nationalism, having Trump stand around while UK's nationalist UKIP leader takes his podium at his event, today's story that Bannon was charged with domestic violence 20 years ago? The reality that, though Trump's unquestionably a bigot, his entire ideology is himself, that there's no room in his world for any passion that isn't about him?

I'm going to guess, though, that Bannon will survive long enough to become part of the fallout after the first debate--because Mercer's money will encourage Trump to keep him in place until that disaster. So, the week after September 26.



P.s.: Where are Trump's kids in all this? Did they just mostly give up trying to influence and go home?

hatrack

(59,579 posts)
14. Wondering that myself re. Trump's kids . . .
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:57 AM
Aug 2016

It's like they've fallen off the face of the Earth.

Slaughtering bears and wildebeest or whatever for Uday and Qusay, and "Tips for Unpaid Interns" by a couple of unpaid interns under Ivanka's yoke, but beyond that, a loud silence.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
15. Well I think that it would help to know if the Bannon hire was a suggestion
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

Of Mercer's or a package deal breaker.

Trump goes where the money flows. Whatever happens, I think it'll be Mercer's call, not Trump's.

And bear in mind, the media are portraying Clinton's speech yesterday as "now both sides are getting nasty". I don't think Trump's side thinks there's a need for a damage control firing. But who can foresee - this campaign season is surreal...


((I also think Ivanka is voting for Hillary, I think Ivanka sees how daddy is tarnishing the family brand. She seems to be the savviest of the siblings))

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Oh, boy! Care to offer odds then? Lol.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:45 AM
Aug 2016

We need a date from you, of course.

But seriously, at what point has anyone controlled Trump? At what point do we know of that attempts to thwart or control him haven't been met with doubling down on his own behavior? I also feel he can be bought, but only temporarily because he's far too much of a loose cannon to stay with anything just because it's something sensible people would consider to be in his interest.

With the election still over 2 months away, the odds are definitely on the side of another rupture. Of course, Perky Kellyanne could be the loser, pushed out by Bannon if she blocks him, but right now it's looking like she might be doing well with Trump himself and doing good things for his image.

Btw, Perky confirmed that Roger Ailes is not with the campaign. Don't know if he seriously considered it, but if so the Mercers won that one.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
17. Yeah, y'know after I posted I thought
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:52 AM
Aug 2016

I do think his ego is bigger than anything other force in the room.

I think I'll go with Tuesday after Labor Day. What's that, uh, September 6...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Good choice. Never imagined I'd be crossing my
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 10:04 AM
Aug 2016

fingers for Bannon's not dropping dead right away, though.

Silent3

(15,154 posts)
10. Unless a Bannon firing included a big payoff to make him to play nice...
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:28 AM
Aug 2016

...Bannon would tear Trump apart in the "alt-right" world, killing off a lot of Trump's most ardent support.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. True, but why do we think a little thing like that would dissuade Trump?
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:53 AM
Aug 2016

After all, bringing him in is also damaging a lot of Trump support.

tinrobot

(10,888 posts)
19. If he's planning to start a media empire with Bannon, then Bannon stays.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 10:27 AM
Aug 2016

If the rumors are correct, then this partnership is intended to last beyond the election.

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