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MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:37 AM Aug 2016

Debbie Wasserman Schultz will easily hold her

seat in November. Her popularity in that district is high, and it will go for her and for Hillary, too.

Tim Canova tried, but it was a very unlikely thing he was trying for. Local congressional district elections are about local issues, and voters think about those when they vote, not national policy matters. In most districts, an incumbent candidate who has national prominence, as DWS does, almost always win reelection. Incumbents who have held high positions in the party also win.

More important will be the race for Rubio's seat. We need to put energy into flipping that one.

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz will easily hold her (Original Post) MineralMan Aug 2016 OP
DWS does little or nothing for her district or Florida for that matter, but I don't dare say that monmouth4 Aug 2016 #1
The primaries in Florida are over. MineralMan Aug 2016 #2
If you don't live in her district, how the fuck would you know? BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #3
Wow, hello to you too. We do have newspapers and tv down here so I'm well aware what monmouth4 Aug 2016 #4
You seem to be confused about what a representative to the House is responsible for. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #7
Oh please, take your lecture somewhere else. Not at all interested.. monmouth4 Aug 2016 #8
Take your own advice first. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #9
Critiquing Dems is one thing, bashing is another apnu Aug 2016 #5
I've been here since the Bush years and really don't care how long you've been here. My intention monmouth4 Aug 2016 #10
Well, I won't bash her PatSeg Aug 2016 #12
Hahaha. It'a gotten quite silly really, don't know if I care to stay or move on..n/t monmouth4 Aug 2016 #13
Decisions, decisions. Where does one actually go from here? NurseJackie Aug 2016 #14
Until recently, PatSeg Aug 2016 #16
I remember when I first came here I didn't want to log off, it was so great. You're right, monmouth4 Aug 2016 #17
Oh yes PatSeg Aug 2016 #18
I'm just saying there's a way to critque. apnu Aug 2016 #19
It's nice to know what people are against. Maybe her district likes her positions more than you. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #11
Hopefully, after a time, Debbie will rise again in prominence within oasis Aug 2016 #6
It's inevitable. I'm very much looking forward to what the future holds. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #15

monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
1. DWS does little or nothing for her district or Florida for that matter, but I don't dare say that
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:40 AM
Aug 2016

out loud 'cause it would be against TOS. DU is so strange sometimes. Say whatever evil you want against Alan Grayson but DWS? Heh.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
2. The primaries in Florida are over.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:45 AM
Aug 2016

Grayson lost. He is not the candidate. Canova lost. He is not the candidate. Once a primary is over, the general election candidates should not be attacked here. DU works to support actual candidates in general elections. It does not work against them.

During primaries, it's permissible to criticize a candidate. Once the general election candidate is selected by the voters, DU supports that candidate.

I have zero to do with any election in Florida. I have elections in my own state to work on and candidates here to support. I really have no comment about DWS, except to note her popularity in her district.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
3. If you don't live in her district, how the fuck would you know?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:08 AM
Aug 2016

Shouldn't complete ignorance of a subject be more of a concern than the ToS when it comes to not commenting about it?

monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
4. Wow, hello to you too. We do have newspapers and tv down here so I'm well aware what
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:59 PM
Aug 2016

happens in her district. Nothing, for the most part..

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
7. You seem to be confused about what a representative to the House is responsible for.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:49 PM
Aug 2016

Micromanagement of the district is not part of the job description.

And maybe "nothing happening" is the way her constituents like it. Ever stop to consider that? Rhetorical question, as clearly you have not.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
9. Take your own advice first.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:44 PM
Aug 2016

You're the one criticizing a representative for a district in which you don't even live, making specious claims with no basis in reality.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
5. Critiquing Dems is one thing, bashing is another
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:06 PM
Aug 2016

I've been here for years, you can look up my account age and see. I've been through many election cycles. DU's TOS is pretty clear and fair, I think. They won't bust you for saying DWS is doing a poor job, critique is fine. But dumping in DWS just because? Forming or joining an Internet hate mob on DWS? That's bad form.

Its more about how you say it when you disagree than it is about disagreement. DU has a long and good history of tolerating reasonable and reasoned dissent.

monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
10. I've been here since the Bush years and really don't care how long you've been here. My intention
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:49 PM
Aug 2016

was not to "bash" but to state a fact or two. Bad form? Really? Oh my..

PatSeg

(47,402 posts)
12. Well, I won't bash her
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:05 PM
Aug 2016

but I won't ever say anything positive about her either. It truly is like walking on eggs around here lately.

We need a smilie for "walking on eggs".

PatSeg

(47,402 posts)
16. Until recently,
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:49 PM
Aug 2016

I was avoiding most election related threads until the primaries were over. I still came for news and other subjects. Now I'm seeing a handful of people who jump all over any comment that does not fit their particular agenda, which makes it difficult to have a real insightful discussion.

I almost always respond to jury duty and most of them are just ridiculous. I think that 'handful' just goes around alerting anything or anyONE that they disagree with. It appears it is meant to alienate and agitate. It certainly isn't enhancing any meaningful discourse.

Sure isn't like it used to be.

monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
17. I remember when I first came here I didn't want to log off, it was so great. You're right,
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:45 PM
Aug 2016

it certainly is not like it used to be.

PatSeg

(47,402 posts)
18. Oh yes
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

I remember those days. I know I was on DU far too much for awhile, but we met a lot of great people. I am still friends with some of the old gang over on Facebook and we can have political discussions without cranks hovering over us with their fingers on the "alert" button.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
19. I'm just saying there's a way to critque.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 06:50 PM
Aug 2016

How its said is as important as what its said.

Stating facts has never been bad form here, that I've seen, even if it paints Democrats in a bad light.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. It's nice to know what people are against. Maybe her district likes her positions more than you.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:01 PM
Aug 2016

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