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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts) Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:31 PM Mar 2013

North Dakota Republican Pols To Protest Anti-Abortion Laws: 'We Have Stepped Over The Line'

North Dakota Republican Pols To Protest Anti-Abortion Laws: 'We Have Stepped Over The Line'

A group of GOP state lawmakers in North Dakota will protest new abortion restrictions on Monday at a Stand Up for Women rally in Bismarck, N.D., because they believe their fellow Republicans have gone too far.

"It's to say, hey, this isn't okay. We have stepped over the line," said state Rep. Kathy Hawken (R-Fargo) in a phone interview with The Huffington Post. "One of the key tenets of the Republican Party is personal responsibility. I'm personally pro-life, but I vote pro-choice, because you can't make that decision for anyone else. You just can't."

North Dakota recently passed the most restrictive abortion ban in the nation, which prohibits abortions after six weeks of pregnancy, and a bill preventing pregnant women from choosing abortion based on a fetal anomaly or genetic disorder. The state also has a "trigger ban," which would prohibit abortion entirely if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned.

Lawmakers are currently considering two "fetal personhood" measures that would effectively ban abortion in the state and complicate the legality of birth control, stem cell research and in vitro fertilization. Hawken said the personhood bills are so extreme that she and approximately 10 of her Republican colleagues in the state legislature -- both men and women -- were inspired to speak out in defense of women's rights.

"North Dakota hasn't even passed a primary seatbelt law, but we have the most invasive attack on womens health anywhere," she said. "I got a letter yesterday from a pharmacist who said, 'We don't want to be in jail because we prescribed something!' We're spending an inordinate amount of time on social or personal issues, however you want to put it, but we haven't done anything on property tax relief, higher education funding, fixing the roads. There are all kinds of other things we need to be doing besides this."

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Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/north-dakota-abortion-_n_2926858.html

WOW! This a quite a surprise.

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North Dakota Republican Pols To Protest Anti-Abortion Laws: 'We Have Stepped Over The Line' (Original Post) Tx4obama Mar 2013 OP

Bumping into themselves in retreat! elleng Mar 2013 #1

Lots and lots of phone calls and e mails. russspeakeasy Mar 2013 #7

There are some quite liberal people in ND. Good for her and them. uppityperson Mar 2013 #2

I think it's progressive vs. regressive issue... Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #4

These Repubs actually "get it" Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #3

It is time to expose the American Taliban for who they are and what they are trying to do. Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #5

I vote pro-choice, because you can't make that decision for anyone else. You just can't. progressoid Mar 2013 #6

+1000 hamsterjill Mar 2013 #16

Why do we liberals Liberalagogo Mar 2013 #8

I concur lunatica Mar 2013 #12

"anti-choice" is good... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2013 #13

The Republicans are pretty much overturning Roe v Wade on a state level davidpdx Mar 2013 #9

THIS is the stuff the Democratic Party should film & distribute. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #10

I hope the ND Repubicans and Democrats make a solid stand against the crazies DFW Mar 2013 #11

But of course there's no Rethug "War on Women," if you listen to Rinsed Prebus ... Bake Mar 2013 #14

republican talk is cheap, did those Rs actually stand-up, yell & vote against these bills? Sunlei Mar 2013 #15

Exactly right. GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #17

I do believe they voted against them SpartanDem Mar 2013 #18

elleng

(130,768 posts)

1. Bumping into themselves in retreat!

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:34 PM

Mar 2013

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)

7. Lots and lots of phone calls and e mails.

Reply to elleng (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:53 PM

Mar 2013

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)

2. There are some quite liberal people in ND. Good for her and them.

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:36 PM

Mar 2013

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)

4. I think it's progressive vs. regressive issue...

Reply to uppityperson (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:49 PM

Mar 2013

Pro-life can be supported by liberals, conservatives, or moderates...if they are progressive and not reactionaries.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)

3. These Repubs actually "get it"

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:49 PM

Mar 2013

Good for them!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

5. It is time to expose the American Taliban for who they are and what they are trying to do.

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:56 PM

Mar 2013

Too much of others imposing their will on others, forcing their beliefs on women who are capable of making their own decisions. I should have some rights to use birth control if I choose. I have been thinking for years this was headed to lead ss of birth control methods and I hear rumbling of such.

progressoid

(49,952 posts)

6. I vote pro-choice, because you can't make that decision for anyone else. You just can't.

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:53 PM

Mar 2013

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)

16. +1000

Reply to progressoid (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 12:33 PM

Mar 2013

Exactly.

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)

8. Why do we liberals

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:44 PM

Mar 2013

keep falling for this right-wing meme of "pro-life"? Who ISN'T "pro-life"? Except maybe the suicidal and serial killers and sociopathic Rethugs. It has been, still is, and will always be nothing else but ANTI-choice. Why do we use the terms the right-wing uses to define an issue and then uses against us?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

12. I concur

Reply to Liberalagogo (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:05 AM

Mar 2013

I have been trying to come up with a name to call their 'pro-life' stand. You just did. I will use it. Anti-choice.

Welcome to DU!

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)

13. "anti-choice" is good...

Reply to Liberalagogo (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:43 PM

Mar 2013

The meme "pro-life" has always incensed me. Not only is it highly hypocritical, but it infers that those who are pro-choice are "pro-abortion", "anti-life" or "pro-death", total offensive BS. A clever linguistic play on words to make the pro-choice people look evil.

Whenever one of my conservative acquaintances describes themselves as "pro-life", I usually fire back that that must mean they are anti-war, pro-universal healthcare, anti-death penalty...oh, wait...not so much, eh?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)

9. The Republicans are pretty much overturning Roe v Wade on a state level

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:41 AM

Mar 2013

to try to prove it doesn't matter anymore. We had better hope Obama gets to replace one of the conservatives soon. The next time a case comes up having to do with Rove v. Wade, the SC could do like they did in Citizen's United and rule beyond what the case was actually about.

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

10. THIS is the stuff the Democratic Party should film & distribute.

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:28 AM

Mar 2013

DFW

(54,302 posts)

11. I hope the ND Repubicans and Democrats make a solid stand against the crazies

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:40 AM

Mar 2013

No one has to change parties, but just discredit the Marat-Sade imitations from the Teabaggers once and for all in voters' eyes.

ND Republicans definitely didn't fail to notice who won the last Senate election in 2012.

Bake

(21,977 posts)

14. But of course there's no Rethug "War on Women," if you listen to Rinsed Prebus ...

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 01:18 PM

Mar 2013

Yeah. There IS a Rethug War on Women. This handful of Repubs actually understands that.

Bake

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)

15. republican talk is cheap, did those Rs actually stand-up, yell & vote against these bills?

Reply to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:53 AM

Mar 2013

The bill is passed, it is to late now to stand up for peoples rights.

Why don't those Rs call for the bill to be struck-down, bring it to the Federal courts?

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)

17. Exactly right.

Reply to Sunlei (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:41 PM

Mar 2013

Such a bold stand they're taking--after the fact.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)

18. I do believe they voted against them

Reply to Sunlei (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:08 PM

Mar 2013

It'd be kinda silly to show up to a protest on bill you voted for.

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