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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:00 PM Jun 2014

Jerry Brown’s demolition of Republican contenders highlights GOP’s woes in California

By Reuters
Wednesday, June 4, 2014 13:42 EDT

SACRAMENTO Calif. (Reuters) – Democratic California Governor Jerry Brown, seeking an unprecedented fourth term, beat out his nearest Republican competitor by more than 35 percentage points in Tuesday’s primary in a race that highlights the shaky state of the Republican Party in the most populous U.S. state.

The open primary contest put candidates from both parties on the same ballot, and Brown barely dipped into his $21 million campaign war chest to lead the 15-person field.

The leading Republican was Neel Kashkari, a former Wall Street financier who helped run the federal government’s bank bailout program during the financial meltdown. He put $2 million of his own money into his campaign and ended up squeaking past Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, an anti-illegal immigration activist and Tea Party favorite, to earn a chance to face Brown in November.

“Whatever candidate they pick, I don’t think it makes any difference,” said Brown, 76, using a discarded dresser as a podium as he addressed reporters outside of a polling place near his home in Oakland.

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/04/jerry-browns-demolition-of-republican-contenders-highlights-gops-woes-in-california/

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Jerry Brown’s demolition of Republican contenders highlights GOP’s woes in California (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
Probably but not a sure thing. First of all voter turnout was terrible. Second Bloomberg and other lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #1
Meg Whitman tried that. nt bemildred Jun 2014 #2
Cash and Kerry has a lot of money behind him, and he carefully has been skirting lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #3
He will lose. bemildred Jun 2014 #4
Actually I think Brown could literally shit on the floor in front of a live television audience... phleshdef Jun 2014 #5
We'd consider it performance art! savalez Jun 2014 #7
haha... his name ain't Brown for nothin'!!! phleshdef Jun 2014 #8
As long as people get out and vote lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #13
"Cash And Kerry"... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #12
Meanwhile, we could end up with a Repuke vs. Repuke runoff for controller KamaAina Jun 2014 #6
Oh, brother. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #10
Sad that Ashley Swearingen onecaliberal Jun 2014 #27
Jerry Brown is incredible, too bad we didn't get it back when he ran for president, he gets mother earth Jun 2014 #9
He WAS incredible. Back when he was dating Linda Ronstadt. KamaAina Jun 2014 #11
Yeah, it's no big deal to have jeff47 Jun 2014 #15
Maybe we need to take a look at who's crammed in there. KamaAina Jun 2014 #16
The "expansion" effort is to expand medical and mental health facilities in the mother earth Jun 2014 #21
This is at issue everywhere, far more so in CA due to the size of the problem. mother earth Jun 2014 #22
I guess you are voting GOP. JB is not perfect, but most effective gov in CA ever possibly, bumps & mother earth Jun 2014 #20
No. I voted Green in this round KamaAina Jun 2014 #24
'92 Roundtable Debate billhicks76 Jun 2014 #14
And now some would like to lay this national problem at Brown's feet? Smells awful here sometimes.. mother earth Jun 2014 #23
Well He Is An Actual Liberal billhicks76 Jun 2014 #25
i didn't even vote for Jerry because i knew he was going to mop the floor.. frylock Jun 2014 #17
We need to work on taking a few house seats from the Thugs now. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #18
I hope he's training LittleGirl Jun 2014 #19
If I have to see onecaliberal Jun 2014 #26

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
1. Probably but not a sure thing. First of all voter turnout was terrible. Second Bloomberg and other
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jun 2014

Networks have been giving cash and carry a free pass. Look at prop 8

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
3. Cash and Kerry has a lot of money behind him, and he carefully has been skirting
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jun 2014

around the social issues, they are trying to portray him as a moderate, he isn't

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. He will lose.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:24 PM
Jun 2014

Unless Brown does the political equivalent of taking a poop on the floor. Things are going well here, Brown is the incumbent, and none of the other guys is well known or particularly charismatic. Brown is well-known here, has a long record, and mere bullshit will not do the job.

Edit: and Brown runs a tight campaign.

I just wish his Dad was here to see it.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
5. Actually I think Brown could literally shit on the floor in front of a live television audience...
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jun 2014

...and still win big, lol.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
9. Jerry Brown is incredible, too bad we didn't get it back when he ran for president, he gets
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jun 2014

it done alright. He WILL win.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. He WAS incredible. Back when he was dating Linda Ronstadt.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:28 PM
Jun 2014

When he ran for president? He supported a flat tax. And now? Even with a surplus, he favors prison expansion and a "rainy-day fund" over restoring the devastating cuts to the social safety net that were made by Ahh-nuld.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. Yeah, it's no big deal to have
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:55 AM
Jun 2014

twice as many prisoners crammed into a prison as it is designed to hold.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. Maybe we need to take a look at who's crammed in there.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014

Simple drug offenders? Early release. Especially in the women's system, where many inmates were busted while holding product for their boyfriends, who were the actual dealers.

The Innocence Project estimates that 10 percent of those incarcerated are in fact innocent.

Many counties have excess capacity in their jails. Santa Clara, for instance, has about 1,500 spare beds. Gov. Brown's realignment plan should help utilize them better.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
21. The "expansion" effort is to expand medical and mental health facilities in the
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

prisons,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/10/california-inmate-release_n_3900385.html

Governor Jerry Brown’s request for $500 million in bond funds to relieve prison overcrowding is getting mixed reviews in the legislature.

The Assembly Budget Committee has approved Brown’s request that all the money go to local jail expansion.

Elizabeth Howard-Espinoza is with the California State Association of Counties.

"We need facilities that have the kind of space available for treatment, for programming, for education," says Espinoza.

Stanislaus County Sheriff Adam Christianson is President of the California State Sheriff’s Association. He says the Assembly Budget Committee’s approval of Brown’s original proposal will help secure needed upgrades to county facilities.

“We want to make sure that we’re meeting the needs of the community and that included medical and mental health care," says Chistianson. "But you can’t do that in facilities that were built in the 40s and 50s.

Critics prefer a Senate proposal that would allocate most of the money to anti-recidivism, drug treatment, mental health and other local community programs.

A federal court has ordered the state to dramatically reduce its prison population.

The Assembly and Senate proposals are going to a conference committee to try and reach a compromise.

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The prison fiasco is a national problem & subject to federal oversight, Matt Taibbi has done a considerable amount of research on this topic.
Like many DU'ers (I'm sure) I wholeheartedly applaud the work of the Innocence Project. Justice in this country is a complicated and problematic issue on many fronts. I sincerely believe Gov. Brown is from the heart & not "in the pocket" and is trying to tackle these problems at many levels. Is there a better alternative to Gov. Brown? I don't think so, and frankly, CA is lucky to have such an honorable man at its helm. I'm from MA, and being a Warren supporter, I don't hand out praise on a whim, real progressive voices are hard to come by these days.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
22. This is at issue everywhere, far more so in CA due to the size of the problem.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/jerry-brown-prisons-private_n_3799519.html

Whether the 12,000 state prisoners convicted of nonviolent drug offenses constitute a potential menace is a matter of debate. In 2011, the governor transferred responsibility for certain nonviolent drug offenders from the state to California’s counties, which were given the choice of sending these offenders to jail or requiring them to seek substance-abuse counseling or other forms of treatment. Since then, the state’s inmate count has declined by about 25,000, leaving its prisons with a population of drug offenders who have previously been convicted of more serious offenses.

But advocates say those prisoners shouldn’t necessarily be seen as violent. “The vast majority of those 12,000 would be old burglaries or robberies,” Backes said. “That's who we should look at for parole or drug treatment. We’re not advocating for the release of prisoners convicted of murder or rape.”

Advocates for prison reform in California and elsewhere received a major boost last week, when U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder declared an end to the Justice Department’s decades-long policy of handing out severe punishments to nonviolent drug offenders. It was just the latest victory for the reform movement, which has seen congressional representatives from both parties introduce legislation in recent months that would reduce the length of certain drug sentences.

For California’s prison reformers, the news of Brown’s proposals augur a major setback. But as the governor meets with legislative leaders over the future of the prisoners, some top state lawmakers are hoping to use the negotiations to demand broader changes to the criminal justice system.

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It's a complicated issue in all states, but given the size of the state and it's population, and the fact of federal oversight which demands certain requirements be met, it's hardly a Gov. Brown "failing". I think he's doing the best anyone can in a situation he inherited & is dealing with while trying to rein in all of CA's other issues.

But, again, perhaps you feel the GOP is better suited to deal with this national issue?

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
20. I guess you are voting GOP. JB is not perfect, but most effective gov in CA ever possibly, bumps &
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014

all. Perhaps you were happier under his predecessors?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
14. '92 Roundtable Debate
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:16 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:13 PM - Edit history (1)

On PBS. Bill Clinton turned beet red and threatened Jerry when a photo was thrown on the big screen showing Clinton and Sam Nunn from GA inspecting a group of shackled Black men in a chain gang with striped fatigues for a private prison work camp...a new development at that point. Bill pointed at Jerry and yelled holding back a vicious rage," You don't know what you're messing with Jerry!!!". I've never seen anything like it but I believe he meant its been decided it will be Bush vs Clinton even though it was very early in the primary and Clinton hadn't taken hold yet. He was threatening Jerry right to his face. They ramped up the drug war and now we have a prison population of 2 million and its big bucks. Clinton later behaved as Bush's lackey once he won the election and even worse after GW Bush won in 2000. Just like when he was Arkansas governor.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
23. And now some would like to lay this national problem at Brown's feet? Smells awful here sometimes..
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jun 2014

sad, really, Gov. Brown is dealing with a lot of shit that can't be cured overnight, but I'd put my money on him any day, always will.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
25. Well He Is An Actual Liberal
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:20 PM
Jun 2014

He is not a centrist corporatist or a Democrat In Name Only...he has fought for the working class, unions, regulation and civil rights. Something sadly missing from our leaders at the Presidential level. I pray we get someone more liberal than Clinton. Between her and her pal Jeb Bush the nepotism stinks to high heaven. Americans want neither of these two and are tired of the entitlement being forced on us. I'm sure Hillary and Obama made a future power sharing deal in 2008 that was amenable to the corporate rulers. Getting the Bush's leftovers, acting like their lackey and continuing GW's policies is beyond embarrassing and downright reprehensible.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. i didn't even vote for Jerry because i knew he was going to mop the floor..
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jun 2014

I gave my vote to a Peace and Freedom candidate. Will vote for Brown in the general.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
19. I hope he's training
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jun 2014

someone to take over when he's done being governor in 2018. Whatever he's doing, he's doing it right!

onecaliberal

(32,811 posts)
26. If I have to see
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
Jun 2014

Cash and karrys face on my Teevee again in the fall I may scream. The ads were almost non stop for 2 months in my district.

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