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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:40 PM Jun 2014

Exclusive: California Legislature Moves to Restrict Citizen-Requested Election 'Recounts'

Republican bill supported by Democrats in the Assembly would allow only wealthy individuals to seek post-elect handcounts...

Up until now, the state of California has been able to boast about one of the most liberal election "recount" statutes in the nation. It allows any voter or group of voters to request a post-election hand-count of any number of precincts in any race or ballot initiative in the state. The state election code allows crucial access to citizen oversight of public elections.

That may all be about to change, however, if a Republican proposal, currently being supported by Democrats in the state legislature and causing alarm among some who have carried out recent "recounts", becomes law.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10671

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Exclusive: California Legislature Moves to Restrict Citizen-Requested Election 'Recounts' (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2014 OP
This is so specific and odd that to me it appears that they are anticipating election GoneFishin Jun 2014 #1
Looks like someone is setting it up BanzaiBonnie Jun 2014 #2
Here is the actual bill - AB 2369 whistler162 Jun 2014 #3
What's "decent" about?! BradBlog Jun 2014 #5
California is so wrong on this. LiberalFighter Jun 2014 #4
Yes, CA very wrong, but you added something that's not there BradBlog Jun 2014 #6

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
1. This is so specific and odd that to me it appears that they are anticipating election
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jun 2014

irregularities and are pre-emptively blocking challenges to questionable election results.

But time will tell.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
3. Here is the actual bill - AB 2369
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:25 AM
Jun 2014

From the summary it looks like a decent bill.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml;jsessionid=2a2f241aedb95a388fa49d0780b2?bill_id=201320140AB2369

"Existing law establishes procedures by which a voter may request a recount of the votes cast in an election following completion of the official canvass. Under existing law, the voter seeking the recount is required, before the recount is commenced and at the beginning of each subsequent day, to deposit with the elections official the amount of money required by the elections official to cover the cost of the recount for that day.
This bill would modify and apply these provisions to the candidate-controlled campaign committee or primarily formed committee, as defined, that is represented by the voter filing the request to seek a recount. The bill would also specify that the money deposited with the elections official be from the voter’s own personal funds, or from the funds of the candidate-controlled campaign committee of the candidate on whose behalf the recount is being requested, or funds of a primarily formed committee."

BradBlog

(2,938 posts)
5. What's "decent" about?!
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jun 2014

What's "decent" about it?!

All it does, as I explain in my article, is make citizen oversight of elections (via "recounts&quot more difficult, by making sure that a voter must pay for it out of their "own personal funds".

Under current CA law, any voter can request a "recount" and could pay for it themselves or raise the money to pay for it from wherever.

Under this bill, they'd have to be wealthy enough to afford it on their own for some (unnecessary) reason.

You think only rich people should be entitled to oversee election results??? What is "decent" about that???

LiberalFighter

(50,872 posts)
4. California is so wrong on this.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:19 AM
Jun 2014

First, there should be an automatic recount that is triggered when elections are close. It should also include the provision that the cost is covered by the government.

Second, only a registered voter within the district covered by the specific election could request a recount that does not involve a trigger recount. A voter could not request a recount for an election in a district they do not have the ability to vote for the candidate involved.

Third, a committee should be formed that would determine the cost to perform a recount and applied to all voting districts based on type of equipment used.

BradBlog

(2,938 posts)
6. Yes, CA very wrong, but you added something that's not there
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jun 2014

You said:

Second, only a registered voter within the district covered by the specific election could request a recount that does not involve a trigger recount. A voter could not request a recount for an election in a district they do not have the ability to vote for the candidate involved.


That is NOT (thankfully) in the bill or Election Code to my knowledge.
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