2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen we end up cheering the defeat of Cantor, let's consider the long term implication
One more teabagger in Congress who will vote not only against immigration reform, but against raising the debt ceiling, against supporting social programs, for isolationism (not that many here would object) and for cutting more and more of the government so that is can be "flushed down the tub." All this while praising god as his guide.
Let's hope that recent analysis, that the voters did not so much voted for Brat as they voted against Cantor, that by 2016 other Republicans in the 7th district will challenge him.
And... perhaps, our side will use him as an example of why we should win in 2016: the White House, the Senate and at least narrow the gap in the House.
Rider3
(919 posts)I'm thinking they went from bad to worse.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)former9thward
(31,970 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)The more complete and utter nutters on their side, the more likely people in other districts will be less willing to hand power over to their side. I really think the only reason enough people were willing to vote for Barack Obama in 2008 was because of a major backlash against the Republicans thanks to W and Cheney.
randys1
(16,286 posts)the results will be so drastic, so harmful, that the morons cheering them from the sidelines might have a tiny, old, 10 watt light bulb go off telling them that they just shot themselves in the foot...
Personally I am kinda like George Carlin in that the more disaster the funner it is to watch...
I mean if they are going to purposely cause disaster that didnt have to happen, I am gonna watch and cheer on harm to those who caused it.
While this is all going on, climate change rapidly gets worse by the hour...we stupid fucking humans dont deserver to survive
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Cantor and Brat would have voted the EXACT SAME WAY on every issue, so no change there.
But now we may have a CRAZY without Cantor's 'stature.'
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Cantor plotted to sabotage and block Obama's presidency from the beginning, so current situation is not worse. Immigration reform wasn't going to happen. This does weaken GOP leadership, drives a deeper wedge into the GOP civil war, and paints the GOP into a more extremist corner. All that is good for Democratic Party.
The Road Runner
(109 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)And Cantor getting bounced is a HUGE black eye for the GOP and all those wealthy benefactors who were counting on him taking the speaker's gavel.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He could very well be beaten by a Democrat. He can't even answer a simple question about minimum wage.
FSogol
(45,470 posts)DebJ
(7,699 posts)question everything
(47,465 posts)I think that the Democrat has been viewed as a sacrificial lamb.
And I can see many Republicans still voting for the bratty brat just to make sure that they do not lose the majority in the House.
Unless there is a miracle and many Republicans and Independents will decide to stop the teabaggers in the march, but I have my doubts. Will be glad to be proven wrong.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)His candidacy is likely to be a troubled one...the immediate leak that he didn't go to Princeton U. tells me, as someone that has done oppo, that Cantor's campaign did oppo that they didn't think they needed and never ended up using. That was almost certainly a leak from Cantor's people. The timing is suspect. So was the bravado of reporters honing in on the weakness of Brat to questions on economics...remember Dave Brat is an economist, he looks like a fool when he can't explain his position on the minimum wage without a policy paper to tell him what he thinks.
Now some of you are asking yourselves "Why would Cantor sandbag Brat?" It's not apparent but it's not spite or revenge...it's a very conservative district that Democrats most-likely cannot hold in incumbency. Cantor's best play, if he wants to retake his seat, is to send Brat to his defeat so that it gets won by a Democrat that he can easily beat in 2 years in a district where Democrats are at a severe numerical disadvantage.
The Road Runner
(109 posts)Nevertheless, I would not underestimate the role that spite and revenge might also be playing as, by all accounts, Eric Cantor is a Giant Asshole and unlikely to lose gracefully.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)With teabaggers running the GOP, it looks like meeting with a Democratic president for any reason will be a guarantee of exclusion by the GOP.
cpprpenny
(5 posts)This guy - Lee Zeldin - is the presumptive Republican nominee in NY CD-1.
He'll be up against Tim Bishop in November if he wins his primary a week from today.
Turns out his backers are the same guys who dumped a ton of toxic waste in Long Island parks!
And he's running to represent all of us who live here.
Disgusting!!
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)will have little power as a lowly freshman representative. That itself is a win. Sure, some other loony will get his spot but they can't get much worse than Cantor who did shut down the government and was even more extreme than Boehner.