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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:48 AM Jun 2014

KSTP/SurveyUSA: Franken(D), Dayton(D) Have Single-Digit Leads in Minnesota!

"This poll is a cannon burst into the Minnesota U.S. Senate race,"

Governor Dayton also faces a potentially close re-election bid. He also leads his nearest competitor by just six points.

These numbers come before millions of dollars are spent on negative political TV ads that could shape the ultimate direction of both the Senate and governor's races.

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KSTP/SurveyUSA: Franken(D), Dayton(D) Have Single-Digit Leads in Minnesota! (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2014 OP
I wonder if six-point leads would be called close, or "cannon-shots," if they were both Republicans? villager Jun 2014 #1
They are called close because it is a Democratic state. former9thward Jun 2014 #2
Those are points, though how heavily Democratic is it? villager Jun 2014 #3
Not worried a bit. Wellstone ruled Jun 2014 #4
Here is the proof: Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #6
MN-Sen, -Gov: yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2014 #5
Consider several things regarding this polling about Franken. 4lbs Jun 2014 #7
Good points davidpdx Jun 2014 #8
I'm going to be a bit more conservative in my estimate fujiyama Jun 2014 #9
Unlike SurveyUSA,PPP finds that things are much the same as they ever were in the Land o' Lakes yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2014 #10
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. I wonder if six-point leads would be called close, or "cannon-shots," if they were both Republicans?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jun 2014

Not that the Koch Bros. won't be spending heavily, of course...

Still, language for different sets of incumbents often seems to be...different...

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. Those are points, though how heavily Democratic is it?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

In other words, what are the average margins of victory for Democrats in state races?

Are the polls weighted toward "likely" voters, and if so, how are those determined, etc.?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Not worried a bit.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

Consider the facts here,KSTP=Hubbard Broadcasting=big money bag for Rethugs. USA=Gannet Publishing St Cloud=big money bag for the Rethugs. Right on schedule for these two fake news outlets or toilets,you choose,in Minnesota to issue their propaganda statements. Rethugs only have smelly turd balls as so called candidates this election cycle. Bachnman and her crew has given the DFL a big time gift this time around,don't screw it up,okay.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
5. MN-Sen, -Gov:
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jun 2014

A new SurveyUSA poll finds Sen. Al Franken beating businessman Mike McFadden, the likely Republican nominee, by a 48-42 margin. He also defeats state Rep. Jim Abeler, a longshot who's challenging McFadden in the primary, 48-39.

In February, Franken led McFadden 50-40 and Abeler 48-37, so McFadden may be experiencing a slight bump in the wake of the GOP's recent convention. Also, both he and Franken have been on the TV airwaves.

Meanwhile, Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton leads Hennepin County Commissioner Jeff Johnson (who, like McFadden, earned his party's official endorsement at the convention) by a 46-40 spread. That's tightened considerably from Dayton's 52-34 edge last time. Johnson still faces a fairly competitive primary, and Dayton holds slightly larger leads against all the other GOP contenders: He's up 46-39 on former House Speaker Kurt Zellers; 46-38 versus former House Minority Leader Marty Seifert; and 47-37 against businessman Scott Honour.

Dayton had leads of around 20 points against all of these guys in February, but now he's stuck at 46. Either the race has gotten more competitive abruptly (and without much explanation), or this is another example of SUSA weirdness.

4lbs

(6,824 posts)
7. Consider several things regarding this polling about Franken.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:56 AM
Jun 2014

1.) He won in 2008 by only 312 votes out of more than 3 million cast. That's 0.01 percent.

He now has at least a 6 point lead.


2.) This 6 point lead is from a GOP sponsored poll.

That means his lead is likely greater than 6 points.


3.) In 2012, fellow Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar beat her GOP rival (Minnesota State Representative Kurt Bills) by 35 points. More than 2.6 million votes were cast in Minnesota that election.


Thus, I think Franken will win reelection this November by about 10 points.


davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Good points
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:14 PM
Jun 2014

The other thing is Franken has taken a very cautious approach his first term and is not one of those Senators who is overly partisan. That may help sway independents toward him more than 6 years ago.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
9. I'm going to be a bit more conservative in my estimate
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jun 2014

of his margin of victory.

Franken's 2012 victory was very narrow, but it was also a very Democratic leaning year. We can't expect as favorable a turn out in a mid term. That said, he was also facing an incumbent and there was a lot of skepticism over a comedian turned politician and whether he was serious enough (all BS of course, but I think that is less of a concern this time).

I think he'll win again, but probably closer to 5 points. I guess I'm just pessimistic though and don't expect many Democratic Senators to win by a high margin.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
10. Unlike SurveyUSA,PPP finds that things are much the same as they ever were in the Land o' Lakes
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:13 AM
Jun 2014

Al Franken leads all of his potential Republican opponents by double digits. He leads his most likely potential foe, Mike McFadden, 49-38. Those numbers are exactly the same as they were eight months ago. Franken's leads against the rest of the GOP field are 50/39 over Jim Abeler, 49/38 over David Carlson, 50/35 over Patrick Munro, and 50/33 over O. Savior. [...]

The story in the Governor's race is similarly stable from the fall. Mark Dayton leads Kurt Zellers 47/37, Jeff Johnson and Marty Seifert 47/36, and Merill Anderson and Scott Honour 47/35. In October he led Zellers, Johnson, Seifert, and Honour all by 10-11 points as well. Dayton has a 48/41 approval rating now, nearly identical to his 48/42 spread from our previous survey.

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