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Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts) Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:20 AM Dec 2014

Three Members of Congress Just Reignited the Cold War While No One Was Looking

By Dennis Kucinich

In its dealings with the European Union, Ukraine could not even get concessions for its citizens to find work throughout Europe. The West does not care about Ukraine, or its people, except for using them to seize a strategic advantage against Russia in the geopolitical game of nations.

Once, with the help of the West, Ukraine fully weighs in as a “military state” and joins the NATO gun club, its annual defense budget will be around $3 billion, compared with the current defense budget of Russia, which is over $70 billion.

Each Western incitement creates a Russian response, which is then given as further proof that the West must prepare for the very conflict it has created, war as a self-fulfilling prophecy. . . .

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/three_congressmen_just_reignited_the_cold_war_while_no_one_was_looking_2014

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Three Members of Congress Just Reignited the Cold War While No One Was Looking (Original Post) Mr_Jefferson_24 Dec 2014 OP

Yes poor put upon Putin mythology Dec 2014 #1

Thanks for your input Mythology... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jan 2015 #6

Paul Craig Roberts is a rightwing racist asshole. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #7

My nearly 10 years experience here at DU is that it's ... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jan 2015 #8

Scorn and derision are the only proper response to the Paul Craig Roberts geek tragedy Jan 2015 #9

Wow. What a shocking surprise. Mr_Jefferson_24 Jan 2015 #11

Roberts is universally despised amongst intelligent people geek tragedy Jan 2015 #12

"Western incitement"....LOL! True Blue Door Dec 2014 #2

Member countries in EU do not have borders between their countries. I doubt the EU wants or needs- Sunlei Dec 2014 #3

No, Putin did that years ago. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #4

Ukraine has not joined NATO. former9thward Jan 2015 #5

Where does all this Putin worship come from? AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #10

Hate-America-First horseshit. Odin2005 Jan 2015 #13

mythology

(9,527 posts)

1. Yes poor put upon Putin

Reply to Mr_Jefferson_24 (Original post)

Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:53 PM

Dec 2014

Because obviously there's nothing in his background that would indicate he'd harm a fly in anything other than the most pure self-defense. I can't believe how many people are willing to go to such lengths to defend Putin and assume that any militaristic act he does must in fact be somebody else's fault.

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)

6. Thanks for your input Mythology...

Reply to mythology (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 05:30 PM

Jan 2015

... here's another one I think you might enjoy:

Outlook for the New Year
by Paul Craig Roberts

. . . .Dear Readers: The conflict that Washington has initiated between the West and Russia/China is reckless and irresponsible. Nuclear war could be the outcome. Indeed, Washington has been preparing for nuclear war since the George W. Bush regime. Washington has revised US war doctrine in order to initiate conflict with a first strike nuclear attack. Washington has discarded the ABM treaty in order to build and deploy anti-ballistic missiles that are intended to prevent a retaliatory strike against the US. Washington is engaged in a buildup of military forces on Russia’s borders, and Washington is demonizing Russia’s government with false charges.

As the Bush/Obama regimes dismantled the safeguards put in place in order to minimize the risk of nuclear war, no protests came from the American public or the media. Washington’s European vassal states have also been silent. Washington’s drive for hegemony has brought nuclear insanity to the world. Moscow and Beijing understand that they are Washington’s targets. As Larchmonter explains, Russia and China are conjoining their economic and military capabilities in order to protect against Washington’s attack. Read what Larchmonter reports. Open the URL in my column below and run your cursor over the bottom of the page and click “page fit.” Choose 50% and readable text will fill your screen.

Washington’s demonization of Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, and Assad were preludes to military attacks on Iraq, Libya, and Syria. In view of these precedents, it is reasonable to regard Washington’s demonization of Vladimir Putin as a prelude to military action. Russia is not Iraq, Libya, or Syria. Russian war doctrine states that Russia can use nuclear weapons in response to a nuclear or conventional attack on Russia. For the world to sit silent while Washington’s arrogance provokes armageddon telegraphs total political failure. Where are the voices in behalf of humanity? . . . .

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/12/29/outlook-new-year-paul-craig-roberts-2/

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

7. Paul Craig Roberts is a rightwing racist asshole.

Reply to Mr_Jefferson_24 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 12:04 AM

Jan 2015

Only a certain kind of person would post his material here.

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)

8. My nearly 10 years experience here at DU is that it's ...

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:33 AM

Jan 2015

... only a certain kind of person who routinely posts mindless smear in lieu of a thoughtful response.

Namely, the kind who are either too lazy, or simply intellectually ill-equipped to analyze an editorial and then construct intelligent counter argumentation. But thanks for the kick just the same Geek Tragedy

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

9. Scorn and derision are the only proper response to the Paul Craig Roberts

Reply to Mr_Jefferson_24 (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:27 PM

Jan 2015

fan club. Racist fascist bootlickers--ALL of them.

No different than the David Duke crowd. It's not surprising to see apologists for a bigoted fascist like Putin cite a white nationalist like Paul Craig Roberts.

https://cafeintifada.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/867

Roberts of course is virulently anti-American now that its President is a black man.

You have marked yourself.

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)

11. Wow. What a shocking surprise.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 05:13 PM

Jan 2015

Transparently adolescent, mindless smear rhetoric, only to be followed up with more of the same. How very compelling.

I guess if you only know one trick that's the one we're going to be treated to -- over and over and over again apparently.

Pretty boring and certainly not a good use of my time, so you go ahead and take the last word. And while you're at it why not throw in a Hitler, Stalin, or Mussolini comparison this time just for good measure? Or how 'bout calling Roberts a Satan worshiper? That ought to persuade the masses.

Oh, and once again, thanks for helping keep my thread kicked.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

12. Roberts is universally despised amongst intelligent people

Reply to Mr_Jefferson_24 (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 05:16 PM

Jan 2015

on the left.

Sorry the truth offends you, but that tends to be a pattern with fans of Roberts and Putin.

P.S. Your credibility is not helped by additional people seeing that you are a fellow traveler of bigoted white nationalists and fascists on the extreme right.