2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton: Off Her Peak, but Still Towering
By Gary Langer
Dec 21, 2014 7:01am
Hillary Clinton is off her peak but still overwhelmingly strong in support for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, while Elizabeth Warren has inched up in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.
Clintons backed by 61 percent of Democratic and Democratic leaning independents who are registered to vote, giving her a vast advantage over potential rivals Joe Biden, at 14 percent, and Warren, the freshman U.S. senator from Massachusetts, at 13 percent.
See PDF with full results here.
Still, Clintons support has slipped from 69 percent in June, down by 8 points, while support for Warren is up by 6 points not remotely enough to make it look competitive at this stage, but movement nonetheless. Biden has held essentially steady.
Warrens been described as the darling of liberals, and indeed her support among liberals has gained 11 points since June, while Clintons has slipped in this group by 14 points. Nonetheless, Clinton still holds a wide 59-19 percent lead over Warren among liberals, with 12 percent for Biden. (Narrow it down to very liberals, combining the last two ABC/Post polls for an adequate sample size, and its similar Clinton 63 percent, Warren 21, Biden 6.)
There are few if any substantive differences across groups in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates and very little support for three others tested, Bernie Sanders, Jim Webb and Martin OMalley. That makes it a far different-looking race from the GOP contest, in which, as reported last week, allegiances are widely scattered, with no clear leader.
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cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Hillary Clinton has substantial, widespread support and is popular among Democratic voters nationally. If she runs, she'll be the odds-on favorite to win the Democratic nomination. Because people like her and trust her.
I like her and I respect her. She's hardworking, dedicated, tough, intelligent, reasonable, and fair-minded. Her ethics and mine are worlds apart in some places. I'd gladly support Bernie Sanders over Clinton, but I'll vote for Clinton without hesitation if she's the party's nominee.
However, since I'm in a deep red state and my vote hardly matters anyway, I might vote Justice Party again.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Even though the voting system in this country is still electorial college, individual vote count is still very important....
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)to the winner of the statewide election. Tennessee is not a part of any other movements or state coalitions to share popular votes.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)I understand that, but when the votes are counted.....and the country sees the amount of votes....thats what looks great...thats all...it counts.....
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)the fact remains that in deep-red Tennessee, all of our states electoral votes WILL go to the GOP. There is absolutely no question about it.
I can vote a show of support for a third party, like the Justice Party, without impacting the Democratic Party's chance of success. If there was a chance that my vote would help elect a Republican, I wouldn't do it. But there's not, which leaves me free to vote third party.
Here is the Justice Party's platform from 2013. It's worth a look. Their candidate Rocky Anderson was on the ballot in 2012.
http://www.justicepartyusa.org/platform
Always Randy
(1,059 posts)so I guess if Bubba works the state she might win it too
Robbins
(5,066 posts)2014 shows he has no influence anymore
No Democrat is ever going to win TN again.Just like here In MO.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Republicans have won four straight elections in Tennessee since 1996, with the margin of victory growing progressively larger in every successive race. In the last election, Romney won with a 20% margin over Obama. It's not even close. Tennessee is not in play for Democrats.
SophieKoko
(17 posts)This is an oft-cited criticism w/ the Democratic party but I am genuinely worried how there are no rising starts within the Dems. We see Paul Ryan and others in the GOP but w/ the Democrats, it's the same names being tossed around from the prior election. Love Hillary but aren't there more good dems out there to give her a good fight in the primaries? Someone who is a Dem but who would rally up a different demographic of America?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)We may not have a lot of "flashy figures" but the members of our party are largely intelligent, well-educated, and any number of them would make a solid POTUS. What can the GOP claim? Oh sure, they got away with it in 2000 with W and his "folksy" charm that not only makes you want to have a beer with him but also give him the Presidency of the most powerful country in the world but they can't do the same with John McCain, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal, et. al.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)Hillary Clinton is a reflection of the worst among us. The lowest of our motives, the cheapest of our issues, the cowardliest of our decisions.
I don't know or care what anyone else represents, but she is not our candidate. Inherently not our candidate, by "virtue" of her personality. If we end up nominating her, it means we are conceding the election. That is all.