2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton spent roughly 90 percent of the money she raised over the summer
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/01/hillary-clinton-spent-roughly-90-percent-of-the-money-she-raised-over-the-summer/-snip-
This post has been updated.
Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton raced through millions of dollars over the summer as she expanded her campaigns ground operations and launched a paid television campaign, spending around nine out of every 10 dollars she raised in the third quarter.
Clinton pulled in more than $28 million and spent an estimated $24.8 million, for a burn rate of about 88.7 percent, based on early numbers released by her campaign. As of Sept. 30, she still had more than $32 million on hand, campaign spokesman Josh Schwerin said in a tweet Thursday.
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)But that's just me.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)BlueWaveDem
(403 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Thank God for Citizen's United, right?
Elections should be bought by the candidate with the most money!
It's the American Republican way!
Whoopee!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)I am loathe to post here any more because I get the impression my interlocutors think I am some kind of ersatz internet patsy when I am anything but.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Or rather her campaign will be..
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/25/obama.clinton.debt/index.html?iref=newssearch
(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has asked top contributors to help former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton retire the debt from her failed presidential campaign, an Obama campaign source said.
Obama and Clinton ran a protracted race for the Democratic presidential nomination that left Clinton with a campaign debt of more than $22 million when she bowed out this month.
About $12 million of that amount is money the senator from New York loaned to the campaign herself.
Obama asked members of his National Finance Committee to contribute to Clinton's campaign if they were so inclined, but he did not direct them to do so, the Obama campaign source said Tuesday.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)I would literally bet my life she's the nominee...I would bet my errrrrr, nose my nemeses don't have near that level of conviction.
gateley
(62,683 posts)(Looks like he's on his way, but he's still sucking all the oxygen out of the room.)
What I find interesting is that Bernie, who I'm sure many would have bet wouldn't have made it this far, continues to do well, and that ANYBODY is chipping into the "presumed nominee's" lofty perch.
It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
We've both been through enough of these where we're crowing "people have had enough! They see what the republicans have done to this country!!!" and we're just looking through our lenses. We do it every time. I just pray that those who are rabid about Hillary OR Bernie OR Biden OR whomever turn out to vote for the Democratic nominee if their 1st choice doesn't make it.
It's about time we behaved like adults. The Republican voters did in the mid-terms. Us, nope.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Obviously she is not. I believe the more significant point is the poor return on her large spending. Trailing in the first two states and losing ground nationally, all after dishing out 90% of her campaign dough.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)Huh
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-primary
Like I sad down thread I would literally bet my life she's the nominee... I would also literally bet my errrrr, duodendum, my nemeses on this board don't have that level of belief and conviction.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Really?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)You do realize that Bernie's fans are also Democrats and/or left-leaning voters, right?
In fact, the interlocutors, in my view (yes, I said that on purpose), are the DLC types who've taken the party away from the people.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)In fact, the interlocutors, in my view (yes, I said that on purpose), are the DLC types who've taken the party away from the people.
I believe you are confusing interloper with interlocutor, ergo:
Interloper- a person who becomes involved in a place or situation where they are not wanted or are considered not to belong.
Interlocutor-a person who takes part in a dialogue or conversation.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Not the first definition, I realize, but, quite honestly, in prose, it's the best definition.
neverforget
(9,433 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)Let's leave it at that unless you don't want to.
neverforget
(9,433 posts)Just this one last election and then we'll get rid of them, right?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)eom
senz
(11,945 posts)They crumble.
But ... I don't suppose Hillary can do that ...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)If you believe Senator Sanders is some juggernaut there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.
senz
(11,945 posts)Honesty.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)If you believe he is the only honest politician in the world there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. But I would defend to my death your right to hold that notion.
senz
(11,945 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)eom
senz
(11,945 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)through Super Pacs thanks to that constitution destroying SC decision which btw, Hillary SAYS she opposes. But her Super Pacs contradict that, don't they?
This is a number one issue for 80% of Americans, the Dark Money that so influences our political system.
That is what is helping Sanders gain so much support, he is the ONLY one who refuses to take that money.
Thanks for bringing it up, the more people learn that while Hillary SAYS one thing, no doubt she knows the figures on this issue, her actions is what they need to look at.
You can't oppose CU and take advantage of it, it's that simple. People are not fools, they know this.
delrem
(9,688 posts)That's about the only true argument that your candidate has.
It's getting a bit old, though.
Especially with this news about how well Bernie Sanders is doing, without all that baggage.
senz
(11,945 posts)That's mind boggling.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)dsc
(52,130 posts)for math 2 even though I would prefer, by a long shot, that we teach alg 1, geometry, and alg 2 instead. If I don't play by the rules as they exist, I won't be playing long.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has asked top contributors to help former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton retire the debt from her failed presidential campaign, an Obama campaign source said.
Obama and Clinton ran a protracted race for the Democratic presidential nomination that left Clinton with a campaign debt of more than $22 million when she bowed out this month.
About $12 million of that amount is money the senator from New York loaned to the campaign herself.
Obama asked members of his National Finance Committee to contribute to Clinton's campaign if they were so inclined, but he did not direct them to do so, the Obama campaign source said Tuesday.
senz
(11,945 posts)I'd forgotten Obama had helped her like that. Incredibly sweet of him. Obama has class.
Hm. Perhaps Hillary needs a budget director?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Maybe she only listens to the one who says, "Burn on through it, babe," ignoring the other 199?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)askew
(1,464 posts)She burned through an insane amount of money.
She travels with a huge entourage, expensive staff and has lavish fundraisers. Her money won't go as far as it will with O'Malley or Bernie for that reason.
senz
(11,945 posts)BlueWaveDem
(403 posts)Basically, they have already expanded into every state, something other candidates haven't even started spending on yet.
Left Ear
(81 posts)Too many offices open. More paid staffers. Oh, and paying each of her 200 advisors she has. And more paid staff. More equipment. More TV ads. More Facebook clickfarm buys. More Twitter follower buys. You can think of it. Her burn rate will damage her candidacy, and she's damaged goods anyway.
Do you know why Bernie has such low burn rate? I think you can figure that out. That, and the fact that Hillary has to spend nearly 10 times of her time trying to fundraise and demanding maximum donations? Bernie has had only 7 fundraisers last quarter compared to Hillary's 61 fundraisers, and he can still tap the same contributors and even gain new donors.
I think Bernie's 4Q will be his best ever, and will set the stage for Bernie's nomination.
BlueWaveDem
(403 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)it's generally a good idea to spend the money as it comes in.
I do keep on thinking, every four years, that I should try harder to get a job in national political campaigning.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I hear that there'll be scads of money to burn through.
And you don't have to worry about burning through money if you're with Hillary Clinton's campaign. There'll always be more money where the original font of happiness came from. The Clintons are really really REALLY good at that.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Alas, I've done volunteer work for various campaigns over the years, but only for candidates I support. Some years back, my husband and I had gotten involved in the Democratic Party in Kansas, and were asked to go door-to-door for whoever was running for the state attorney general office, and decided we couldn't because he supported the death penalty. We did door-to-door on behalf of Kathleen Sebelius instead.
Left Ear
(81 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)An unexpected expense...
WillyT
(72,631 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)falling poll numbers and being either tied or behind in the first two elections imagine what the rest of the other 48 states are going to cost her.
And if as another thread said most of her individual donors have already maxed out their limits she is in big trouble. She will owe the whole show to the big donors in her super pacs.
That is not a position I would want to be in this early in the game.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,119 posts)to just take out classified ads saying, "Hey, vote for me and I'll give you $10." (By then, the FEC will have been merged with the SEC as a cost-saving measure, so they won't care.)
Or just make it a game show and be done with it. "I'll take 'Midwestern States with an Idiot for a Governor' for $100 Million, Alex."
There's a story -- probably apocryphal, but who knows? -- about when Joseph Kennedy told JFK, when he was running for President, to take it easy on the campaign expenses because he'd "be damned if he was going to pay for a landslide."
Metric System
(6,048 posts)in every state.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Doesn't take a math wizard to understand the trends.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)She kept spending into June 2008 when winning was a mathematical impossibility. I made one donation because Obama asked us to, but I won't do it again when she loses this time.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The idiots who are telling her to run as if she's an incumbent president?
You'd think that with all the money the banksters have thrown at her she could manage to hire somebody with some brains. Apparently not.