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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:28 PM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton spent roughly 90 percent of the money she raised over the summer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/01/hillary-clinton-spent-roughly-90-percent-of-the-money-she-raised-over-the-summer/

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Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton raced through millions of dollars over the summer as she expanded her campaign’s ground operations and launched a paid television campaign, spending around nine out of every 10 dollars she raised in the third quarter.

Clinton pulled in more than $28 million and spent an estimated $24.8 million, for a burn rate of about 88.7 percent, based on early numbers released by her campaign. As of Sept. 30, she still had more than $32 million on hand, campaign spokesman Josh Schwerin said in a tweet Thursday.
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Hillary Clinton spent roughly 90 percent of the money she raised over the summer (Original Post) LiberalElite Oct 2015 OP
Hum, what about the $45M she raised? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #1
If I were her opponent I wouldn't ignore the $45M her super pacs have raised. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3
Yes the super pacs also raised money, this is what she reported the first quarter of her campaign. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #5
She broke the fundraising record for 2 quarters by any Dem primary candidate ever. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #8
Oh yes! The more money in politics the better. senz Oct 2015 #9
I was merely disabusing our interlocutor of the notion she's broke. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #21
If history is any indication she will be Fumesucker Oct 2015 #26
Yeah, sure, whatever. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #27
And people would have bet that Trump would be long gone by now. gateley Oct 2015 #38
I don't think the point was she is broke. morningfog Oct 2015 #35
Really: DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #36
"Nemeses..." daleanime Oct 2015 #52
Interlocutor? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #39
I believe you are confusing interloper with interlocutor. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #40
It's also a person who questions. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #41
Thank God there is more money to buy politicians. neverforget Oct 2015 #15
I was merely responding to the fact she raised $45m for her SuperPac DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #17
And you're happy for the SuperPacs, a creation of Citizen United! neverforget Oct 2015 #18
I am not going to bring a knife to a gun fight. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #23
Bernie brings truth. senz Oct 2015 #28
If you believe Senator Sanders is some juggernaut there is nothing... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #29
I think he has something other politicians lack. senz Oct 2015 #31
If you believe he is the only honest politician in the world there is nothing I can do ... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #32
Well that's very sweet of you. Thanks! senz Oct 2015 #33
You are welcome. I appreciate your passion for your candidate. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #34
He's a good guy, for sure. senz Oct 2015 #37
Her opponents are not ignoring. It is a huge issue in this campaign, the Dark Money being funnelled sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #43
hehe, nobody is discounting your candidate's fund raising prowess. delrem Oct 2015 #47
Good Lord. senz Oct 2015 #2
Is this the same Hillary who (allegedly) wants to get the money out of politics?? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #4
Yes, she is taking full advantage of what she says she opposes. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #44
yea just like I am teaching the common core curriculum dsc Oct 2015 #50
Maybe her idea of "getting the money out" is "spend it as fast as possible". n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #46
yep. lol. n/t mhatrw Oct 2015 #53
Remember what happened in 2008? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #6
LOL, well now maybe we know how it happened. senz Oct 2015 #12
Maybe she could find one amongst her 200 economic advisers? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #14
Oh my. senz Oct 2015 #16
I am sure Rubin doesn't come cheaply. hifiguy Oct 2015 #58
She had the same problem with the Senate campaign. askew Oct 2015 #24
She should probably avoid discussing the deficit and national debt. nt senz Oct 2015 #30
Her campaign says it was all investing in future resources. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #7
Paid staffers Left Ear Oct 2015 #19
LOL OK. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #25
From what I think I know about running for office, SheilaT Oct 2015 #10
You should apply for a job Hillary Clinton's campaign. delrem Oct 2015 #48
You're right, but I'm not cynical enough to work for her. SheilaT Oct 2015 #49
Higher than expected burn rate. Left Ear Oct 2015 #11
Bern rate... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #13
Ah. That's it, isn't it? senz Oct 2015 #20
Sorry, LE... I Didn't Know You Already Posted This... I Deleted... WillyT Oct 2015 #22
Looking at her polling trendlines, she doesn't seem to be getting her money's worth. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #42
That is what I was thinking. If she has spent this much for jwirr Oct 2015 #56
I'm waiting for the day when candidates find it cheaper and easier Buns_of_Fire Oct 2015 #45
That's money well spent, laying the groundwork throughout the country and ensuring competitiveness Metric System Oct 2015 #51
Look at the money she's spent versus her position in the polls Fearless Oct 2015 #54
Just don't ask the rest of us to pay off her campaign debt again. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #55
On what? hifiguy Oct 2015 #57
Ground game. You'll see the results in a few months. Metric System Oct 2015 #59
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
9. Oh yes! The more money in politics the better.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:04 PM
Oct 2015

Thank God for Citizen's United, right?

Elections should be bought by the candidate with the most money!

It's the American Republican way!

Whoopee!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
21. I was merely disabusing our interlocutor of the notion she's broke.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:24 PM
Oct 2015

I am loathe to post here any more because I get the impression my interlocutors think I am some kind of ersatz internet patsy when I am anything but.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
26. If history is any indication she will be
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:32 PM
Oct 2015

Or rather her campaign will be..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/25/obama.clinton.debt/index.html?iref=newssearch



June 25 , 2008

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has asked top contributors to help former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton retire the debt from her failed presidential campaign, an Obama campaign source said.

Obama and Clinton ran a protracted race for the Democratic presidential nomination that left Clinton with a campaign debt of more than $22 million when she bowed out this month.

About $12 million of that amount is money the senator from New York loaned to the campaign herself.

Obama asked members of his National Finance Committee to contribute to Clinton's campaign if they were so inclined, but he did not direct them to do so, the Obama campaign source said Tuesday.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
27. Yeah, sure, whatever.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:34 PM
Oct 2015

I would literally bet my life she's the nominee...I would bet my errrrrr, nose my nemeses don't have near that level of conviction.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
38. And people would have bet that Trump would be long gone by now.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:08 PM
Oct 2015

(Looks like he's on his way, but he's still sucking all the oxygen out of the room.)

What I find interesting is that Bernie, who I'm sure many would have bet wouldn't have made it this far, continues to do well, and that ANYBODY is chipping into the "presumed nominee's" lofty perch.

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

We've both been through enough of these where we're crowing "people have had enough! They see what the republicans have done to this country!!!" and we're just looking through our lenses. We do it every time. I just pray that those who are rabid about Hillary OR Bernie OR Biden OR whomever turn out to vote for the Democratic nominee if their 1st choice doesn't make it.

It's about time we behaved like adults. The Republican voters did in the mid-terms. Us, nope.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
35. I don't think the point was she is broke.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:56 PM
Oct 2015

Obviously she is not. I believe the more significant point is the poor return on her large spending. Trailing in the first two states and losing ground nationally, all after dishing out 90% of her campaign dough.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
36. Really:
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:05 PM
Oct 2015
Obviously she is not. I believe the more significant point is the poor return on her large spending. Trailing in the first two states and losing ground nationally, all after dishing out 90% of her campaign dough.


Huh


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-primary


Like I sad down thread I would literally bet my life she's the nominee... I would also literally bet my errrrr, duodendum, my nemeses on this board don't have that level of belief and conviction.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
39. Interlocutor?
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:10 PM
Oct 2015

You do realize that Bernie's fans are also Democrats and/or left-leaning voters, right?

In fact, the interlocutors, in my view (yes, I said that on purpose), are the DLC types who've taken the party away from the people.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
40. I believe you are confusing interloper with interlocutor.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:17 PM
Oct 2015
Interlocutor? You do realize that Bernie's fans are also Democrats and/or left-leaning voters, right?

In fact, the interlocutors, in my view (yes, I said that on purpose), are the DLC types who've taken the party away from the people.


I believe you are confusing interloper with interlocutor, ergo:


Interloper- a person who becomes involved in a place or situation where they are not wanted or are considered not to belong.


Interlocutor-a person who takes part in a dialogue or conversation.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
41. It's also a person who questions.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:42 PM
Oct 2015

Not the first definition, I realize, but, quite honestly, in prose, it's the best definition.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
17. I was merely responding to the fact she raised $45m for her SuperPac
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:21 PM
Oct 2015

Let's leave it at that unless you don't want to.

neverforget

(9,433 posts)
18. And you're happy for the SuperPacs, a creation of Citizen United!
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:23 PM
Oct 2015

Just this one last election and then we'll get rid of them, right?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
29. If you believe Senator Sanders is some juggernaut there is nothing...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:37 PM
Oct 2015

If you believe Senator Sanders is some juggernaut there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
32. If you believe he is the only honest politician in the world there is nothing I can do ...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:44 PM
Oct 2015

If you believe he is the only honest politician in the world there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. But I would defend to my death your right to hold that notion.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
43. Her opponents are not ignoring. It is a huge issue in this campaign, the Dark Money being funnelled
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:04 AM
Oct 2015

through Super Pacs thanks to that constitution destroying SC decision which btw, Hillary SAYS she opposes. But her Super Pacs contradict that, don't they?

This is a number one issue for 80% of Americans, the Dark Money that so influences our political system.

That is what is helping Sanders gain so much support, he is the ONLY one who refuses to take that money.

Thanks for bringing it up, the more people learn that while Hillary SAYS one thing, no doubt she knows the figures on this issue, her actions is what they need to look at.

You can't oppose CU and take advantage of it, it's that simple. People are not fools, they know this.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
47. hehe, nobody is discounting your candidate's fund raising prowess.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:01 AM
Oct 2015

That's about the only true argument that your candidate has.
It's getting a bit old, though.
Especially with this news about how well Bernie Sanders is doing, without all that baggage.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
50. yea just like I am teaching the common core curriculum
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:40 AM
Oct 2015

for math 2 even though I would prefer, by a long shot, that we teach alg 1, geometry, and alg 2 instead. If I don't play by the rules as they exist, I won't be playing long.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. Remember what happened in 2008?
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/25/obama.clinton.debt/index.html?iref=newssearch



June 25 , 2008

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has asked top contributors to help former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton retire the debt from her failed presidential campaign, an Obama campaign source said.

Obama and Clinton ran a protracted race for the Democratic presidential nomination that left Clinton with a campaign debt of more than $22 million when she bowed out this month.

About $12 million of that amount is money the senator from New York loaned to the campaign herself.

Obama asked members of his National Finance Committee to contribute to Clinton's campaign if they were so inclined, but he did not direct them to do so, the Obama campaign source said Tuesday.


 

senz

(11,945 posts)
12. LOL, well now maybe we know how it happened.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:12 PM
Oct 2015

I'd forgotten Obama had helped her like that. Incredibly sweet of him. Obama has class.

Hm. Perhaps Hillary needs a budget director?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
16. Oh my.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:19 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe she only listens to the one who says, "Burn on through it, babe," ignoring the other 199?

askew

(1,464 posts)
24. She had the same problem with the Senate campaign.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:27 PM
Oct 2015

She burned through an insane amount of money.

She travels with a huge entourage, expensive staff and has lavish fundraisers. Her money won't go as far as it will with O'Malley or Bernie for that reason.

 

BlueWaveDem

(403 posts)
7. Her campaign says it was all investing in future resources.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:59 PM
Oct 2015

Basically, they have already expanded into every state, something other candidates haven't even started spending on yet.

 

Left Ear

(81 posts)
19. Paid staffers
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:23 PM
Oct 2015

Too many offices open. More paid staffers. Oh, and paying each of her 200 advisors she has. And more paid staff. More equipment. More TV ads. More Facebook clickfarm buys. More Twitter follower buys. You can think of it. Her burn rate will damage her candidacy, and she's damaged goods anyway.

Do you know why Bernie has such low burn rate? I think you can figure that out. That, and the fact that Hillary has to spend nearly 10 times of her time trying to fundraise and demanding maximum donations? Bernie has had only 7 fundraisers last quarter compared to Hillary's 61 fundraisers, and he can still tap the same contributors and even gain new donors.

I think Bernie's 4Q will be his best ever, and will set the stage for Bernie's nomination.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
10. From what I think I know about running for office,
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:09 PM
Oct 2015

it's generally a good idea to spend the money as it comes in.

I do keep on thinking, every four years, that I should try harder to get a job in national political campaigning.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
48. You should apply for a job Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:55 AM
Oct 2015

I hear that there'll be scads of money to burn through.
And you don't have to worry about burning through money if you're with Hillary Clinton's campaign. There'll always be more money where the original font of happiness came from. The Clintons are really really REALLY good at that.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
49. You're right, but I'm not cynical enough to work for her.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:36 AM
Oct 2015

Alas, I've done volunteer work for various campaigns over the years, but only for candidates I support. Some years back, my husband and I had gotten involved in the Democratic Party in Kansas, and were asked to go door-to-door for whoever was running for the state attorney general office, and decided we couldn't because he supported the death penalty. We did door-to-door on behalf of Kathleen Sebelius instead.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
56. That is what I was thinking. If she has spent this much for
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:20 PM
Oct 2015

falling poll numbers and being either tied or behind in the first two elections imagine what the rest of the other 48 states are going to cost her.

And if as another thread said most of her individual donors have already maxed out their limits she is in big trouble. She will owe the whole show to the big donors in her super pacs.

That is not a position I would want to be in this early in the game.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,119 posts)
45. I'm waiting for the day when candidates find it cheaper and easier
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:41 AM
Oct 2015

to just take out classified ads saying, "Hey, vote for me and I'll give you $10." (By then, the FEC will have been merged with the SEC as a cost-saving measure, so they won't care.)

Or just make it a game show and be done with it. "I'll take 'Midwestern States with an Idiot for a Governor' for $100 Million, Alex."

There's a story -- probably apocryphal, but who knows? -- about when Joseph Kennedy told JFK, when he was running for President, to take it easy on the campaign expenses because he'd "be damned if he was going to pay for a landslide."

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
51. That's money well spent, laying the groundwork throughout the country and ensuring competitiveness
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:40 AM
Oct 2015

in every state.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
54. Look at the money she's spent versus her position in the polls
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:01 PM
Oct 2015

Doesn't take a math wizard to understand the trends.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
55. Just don't ask the rest of us to pay off her campaign debt again.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:05 PM
Oct 2015

She kept spending into June 2008 when winning was a mathematical impossibility. I made one donation because Obama asked us to, but I won't do it again when she loses this time.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
57. On what?
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:24 PM
Oct 2015

The idiots who are telling her to run as if she's an incumbent president?

You'd think that with all the money the banksters have thrown at her she could manage to hire somebody with some brains. Apparently not.

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