A disaster in the making.

Haven't you even been on an Amtrak train?

Deer all over the place.

I'm for a full Australian-style ban.

However, Obama and Hillary are far better on this issue than Bernie IMO.

But we should still try, right?

You'll have to find and support a candidate who hasn't entered the race yet if that's what you want.

just like I'm sure many folks think we shouldn't stop trying to get universal healthcare.

There are a number of DUers who agree with my position that we should implement an Australian-style ban in the United States.

We will keep fighting, just like folks will keep fighting for universal healthcare.

Your candidate doesn't support a ban on guns or universal healthcare.

See my post #20:

Your candidate doesn't support either, which is why Bernie is the logical choice for someone who supports both.


Bernie = pro-2A/pro-universal health care

Hillary = pro-2A/anti-universal health care


Why is that so hard to understand?

Absolutely.

Both are nearly impossible to do politically, but advocates won't stop trying.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

There isn't a single major candidate who supports a full gun ban, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to vote.

AWESOME!

It's an extremely important issue and we need a president who will fight for this basic human right!

Glad you came around, Cali Democrat!

Welcome aboard the Bernie bus!

to help Bernie get elected.

Sorry that won't ever happen. Ever. Australia has far less people and far less firearms. 50 years ago you MAY have been able to do it, big maybe. These days you can just forget about it when there's more guns than there are people. I myself am a gun owner.

Conveniently forget that part, same as the airlines. Locked in a checked bag.

Instead of attacking the Republicans they're going after a Dem candidate who supports gun control.

And they have set a shadow discussion group to plot on DU members. Sickening.

Did you miss that or are you trying to convince everyone that Bernie supports carrying guns on trains?

and you statement attests to it.

The vote was not to allow guns to be carried by passengers on Amtrak trains. It was simply to allow handguns to be transported in checked baggage. All guns must be declared, be in a secure container, and unloaded.

This is exactly what has been allowed on airplanes for some time. No different.

So when an NPR article has this kind of subtle spin to it already, it is not worth reading or discussing beyond fact checking and correcting.

They're desperate.

with either NPR or these particular partisans.

He voted for the 2013 background check bill and assault weapons ban. But the Oregon shooting must have been his fault, right?

Hillary's position is, as usual, flexible, depending as always on which way the political wind is blowing on a particular day..

if they don't support handing out free assault rifles to children.

Bernie positions can resonate with sensible gun owners so we can start taking steps to end this logjam. Calls for bans simply cause peopke who might listen to close their ears and feed the paranoia the NRA is stoking.

This is such a lame argument, but I do realize their avenues of attack against Bernie are extremely limited.

So bring it on.

And he is pro-gun control.

and a waiting period?

He did it for the hunters, right?

He's pro-gun control and like I said, his position is just fine with me.

He preferred background checks at the state level. What a crime that was

I was waiting to see if they replied.

It will most definitely be scrutinized.

needs to be done. So, it will continue to be in the national spotlight.

You barely waited 24 fucking hours.

Next question.

It was nothing more than an angry, racist, xenophobic screed one would see on message boards like Free Republic:

Now wouldn't that be ironic?

He has stated over and over again that the time has come to have a meaningful conversation about gun control legislation. None of the previous gun control acts have done anything to prevent the tragedies this country has seen the last few years. He wants to bridge the gap between responsible gun owners and folks who want strict gun control by coming up with gun control laws that work for everybody. They would include a ban on assault weapons, instant background checks, and an overhaul of mental health care among other things. That's not an easy task, obviously, and it's why nothing gets done after these types of events. But of all people to lead this debate, Bernie is in the unique position of being a candidate who supports gun control while representing a state that has almost no gun control laws. He understands both sides of the issue and is willing to compromise, something that is desperately needed in this debate. Otherwise we're just going to keep spinning our wheels and get nowhere time and time again.

And has repeated called for stricter gun control, background checks, and so on.

What exactly do people think that using this issue to smear Bernie during a national crisis will accomplish? Help Hillary??

Good luck with that.

So it's not a surprise.

more than a third of Americans own guns.

Wouldnt change my vote, given the alternative is being complicit in dropping bombs on brown-skinned people and sending their children screaming through the night. When they can sue the arms manufacturers I'll worry about suing gun manufacturers.

Shame is dead.

I know your other angles haven't been very successful, but I really wonder, what makes you think this will be "the one"?

and I hope that doesn't cause trouble for him.

But it's the more liberal Sanders who could find himself having to uncomfortably explain his past positions on gun control. Even though the progressive socialist is to the left of Clinton and his other primary competitors on nearly every issue, he's walked a delicate line as a lawmaker from Vermont, where 2nd Amendment rights are popular.

You've even got Hillary supporters going after each other.

Unheard of!

Because he is talking about gun control

Just like he did here on CNN about gun control.

And no weathervane required, lol