2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUpdated: Bernie slightly above Biden in HuffPost/Pollster (customized) model.. trails Hillary by 20
Last edited Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:16 PM - Edit history (2)
Date range: (9/1 to current)
Less smoothing option
All polls
Latest chart includes new PPP poll.
Old chart from Oct 5.
The Bern may have "berned" out!
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)You only reward those that earned it. Maybe if Bernie works to gain on the VP, he may get more attention.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Bernie never goes after anyone. He just benignly ignores the fact that so many of his supporters have waged a vicious campaign against Hillary Clinton from day one.
It will be interesting to see what his "unofficial" campaign does in regards to Biden. He doesn't have much of an official campaign, so the internet bullies who have been so successful at shutting out Hillary supporters will have to take on Joe if he jumps in. If Biden actually enters the race then the Sander's campaign is dead in the water.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I question her motives because I think she's a corporate-owned war hawk. Period.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I doubt you really care what Hillary is.
My guess is you think that a Sanders Presidency would be good for your economic interests.
Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)Or do you just suppose that the RepubliCONS are WRONG on EVERY ISSUE EXCEPT the ECONOMY?
LOL!
Not bloody likely. The science is in. Read Piketty, Capital in the 21st Century. He puts the last nail in the coffin of supply-side, trickle-down, "Voodoo economics." It's OVER!
And Hillary wants us to continue the illusion that her watered-down, Republicon-influenced economic solutions are as good as Bernie's? Sorry, Hill. Not gonna pretend for anyone, not even you.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The pollsters are obviously showing something their corporate masters don't like without Biden in the race. He isn't even running, yet there he is in every poll.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Either way it's fine with me.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And we haven't even had a debate yet. What happened to her?
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)Not so for the Sanders.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Hillary seems to be on a roll!
deadlinetony
(48 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Definitely will change numbers.
jfern
(5,204 posts)as soon as it has Sanders doing better then the normal smoothing option again. This cherry-picking is ridiculous.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Every poll included and no smoothing to hide the details. Why would you want it any other way?
jfern
(5,204 posts)Sanders was at least 23 in 19 polls straight, but then some poll with a sample of only 344 comes along that has him at 18, and boom the stupid less smoothing option has him drop a huge amount. There's nothing statistically significant about this drop.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Bernie is down and Hillary is up in all five. Thats why the lines are diverging.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Gravis Sept. 30 - Oct. 2
Clinton 44.4
Sanders 25.4
Biden 23.1
http://www.oann.com/trump-dominates-one-america-news-networks-national-poll/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Every other poll on that chart -- 21 in all -- he is clearly higher. Often much higher. 2 polls, a week apart, out of 21 do not a trend make.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)regardless the model gives Joe a slight lead at this point in time.
deadlinetony
(48 posts)as to his announcement... and keep delaying by the media.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)"9/1 to current" according to the OP, Bernie is *still* second.
I call that OP some BULLSHIT.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Pollster Trend
Hillary Clinton 43.1%
Bernie Sanders 25.6%
Joe Biden 19.9%
Martin O'Malley 0.9%
Jim Webb
Lincoln Chafee 0.2%
Lawrence Lessig 0.0%
Undecided
Other
DCBob
(24,689 posts)As I said in the op. You can do it yourself. Just select the date range specified and choose less smoothing option.
That's it!
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)I'm not gonna hold my breath
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)for sure.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)9/1 to current:
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)It is customized because he limited the date range and changed from moderate smoothing to less smoothing.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Bernie is tied with someone who can't decide if they are running or not.
And when is Ms. Inevitable going to have a 25,000 attendee rally?
Walk away
(9,494 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Slowly narrowing the gap!
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)At this point in time of the campaign, it is considered late. Joe is not running. Probably can't get enough donors to back him. He ain't going to do it. They simply need to take him out of the polling equation. End of story.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Taco Bell might be actual Mexican cuisine.
Bigfoot might be an ancient alien crash landed on Earth.
Humans might not have to much effect on climate.
Reality programming might be the peak of human civilization.
The best cure for itchy genitally might be a hammer.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)and now is heading down.
No surprises, he is a regional candidate at best.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its customized. You can do it too.. just follow these simple instructions:
-- click create you own button
-- enter date range 9/1 to current
-- select less smoothing option
-- click apply
That's it.. customized charts for the clueless!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Enjoy it while you can, but this just shows that Clinton supporters will distort reality in order to support their distorted views.
It is only the less smoothing option that creates this distorted chart.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The real chart shows nothing of the sort.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The customized chart is better if you are interested in the most current data and what is happening at a more granular level.
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and to sheshe2