2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLatest PPP national poll: Bernie gaining on Hillary!
PPP recent dem primary polls:
8/28 - 8/30: Hillary 55 Bernie 20 Hillary +35
10/1 -- 10/4 Hillary 51 Bernie 28 Hillary +23
FEEL THE BERN!!!!!
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)truly, never.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)OK, that made me laugh.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)cuz its getting toasty!
#feelthebern2016
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Better than where Obama was in 2008. This debate can be make or break for both campaigns. Can't wait to see what happens.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)She's lost 33 points advantage since 6/11-6/14.
October will be very interesting!
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)and is killing him in the electoral vote count.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)then public testimony on Benghazi. And the Biden enters the race.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)It's a primary. Electoral votes are in the general election.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)All I am stating for now. We will see if that changes? Fortunately for me I can live with either candidate. Or Biden for that matter.
Anyone but a Republican my vote.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Hillary is going to crush him in the general.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)Bernie is gonna squish her and then bern her,but he won't kill her.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)as it's so great for Hillary.
kenn3d
(486 posts)I pointed out the fact that the just released CNN poll which had the DU GDP board all atwitter with headlines like "Clinton widens lead over Sanders 80%!", had actually resulted in a small narrowing of the RCP composite spread to:
Clinton 43.3 / Sanders 23.8 (Clinton +19.5).
A small net gain for Sanders of 3.7%
In the intervening 2 weeks since that OP, there have been several new polls from USA Today/Suffolk, Pew, IBD/TIPP, and this newest one today from PPP, all of which have been heralded on DU as confirmation of a Clinton turnaround and the stalling of the Sanders surge.
Well folks, the current RCP spread including all these recent polls is:
Clinton 41.6 / Sanders 25.3 (Clinton +16.4)
IOW: Another small net gain for Sanders of +3.1%
Now I say again that these individual polls by different pollsters using different methods simply cannot confirm meaningful trends from day to day or even week to week. It's even doubtful that the longer term composite averages from RCP or Huff Pollster graphs can tell us much about what may happen MONTHS from now.
Suffice to say:
Hillary is still ahead, but on average, her numbers are still falling.
Bernie is still significantly behind her, and on average, his numbers are still rising.
Biden is still not in the race and may be further reducing the meaningfulness of any or all of these National polls, but his numbers are on average going nowhere for the last 3 weeks at least.
Anything can happen - GOTV!
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)It has slowed slightly, but she is still losing 3.5% per two weeks.
Much as Hillaryites like to say 2016 is different than 2008, it is trending strongly the same way. The more people see Hillary, the less likely they are to vote for her.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)But don't you worry, this isn't anything like 2008, uh uh, no siree.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Hillary might win if election was held today, the first primaries are months away.... And her numbers continue to slide down, month over month