2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFor Democrats, Bernie Sanders is the one to watch for
Saritha Prabhu (Photo: File / The Tennessean)
But a significant portion of the Democratic base which Im a part of loves him. This base is disenchanted with Hillary Clinton for a long and obvious laundry list of reasons.
Meanwhile, the media, in general, give Sanders relative short shrift they dont take him seriously because they think his socialist label dooms his candidacy before he gets to first base with voters.
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If you follow the figures, large percentages of Americans agree with many of these positions.
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I think (democratic socialism), he has said means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship all of our people have health care; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality child care, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly. Thats all it means.
The big difference between Sanders and Clinton is that elusive quality: authenticity, which in my definition, is when what you say and what you do and how youve lived your life are congruent.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/columnists/2015/10/10/democrats-bernie-sanders-one-watch/73611888/
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)I sometimes wonder if you are a bot that automatically posts in a thread with "Sanders" name.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)no matter how wrong it is?
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
leftupnorth
(886 posts)The stand united part or the lesser evil part?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I think America is definitely ready for a solid Democratic Socialist to take POTUS reigns and
do a major course-correction, restoring the rightful place of responsible & responsive good
government.
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Peace to you, 99th_Monkey.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That is what is wrong now. We don't want more of the same.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)inside DC think tanks, pundits with zero core beliefs, strategists, talking heads on the Corp media, also with no core beliefs, all financed by Dark Money, all vying for 'piece of the Corporate Pie' and their only success has been, what they are paid to do I suppose, thoroughly disgust voters across the political spectrum.
Bernie is bringing a fresh new way of looking at politics. It is, as he says himself, radical. No Corp money paying for all these negative assaults on our system of government.
He just tells the truth! What a rare thing, and he like most decent people, actually does have core principles and stands by them.
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Peace to you.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)in an otherwise fetid and reeking swamp.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I feel a need to open the windows and get some air for some reason!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)It feels so good for once not to default to the least objectionable option.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's just reverting to its former status
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)He's honest, can't be bought, he loves the working class they seem to loathe, his integrity cannot be questioned, he's correct on every issue, he speaks the truth about the D.C. Elites, he walks picket lines, he eats lunch with the cafeteria staff - what on earth do they do with someone like him? LOL!
He-is-an-AMAZING-human-being! A true mensch. A good hearted soul. A rarity in D.C..
Demeter
(85,373 posts)and the nation will rise up in blood and fire.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)It wouldn't be the first time. I'm just glad he flies on commercial flights - not that that would stop them. What's a few hundred people when their gravy train is at stake. Yes, I worry about him too.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but he always has staff and people around him. and he is a smart guy..he knows he is shaking the trees..i would not be surprised if he has security people around him dressed as hipster millenials. how cool would that be?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)illusions. When she says the media give Bernie "short shrift" due to their belief he cannot win due to his Socialist label, that's not accurate. They proclaim that because they don't want him to win. They are being paid to do what they are told which is to help defeat him. It's just like the phrase that always bothered me when people would complain of "spineless" Democratic politicians. They are not spineless, they are bought off, self interested, corrupt POS!
The corporate media are just that, corporate. Don't say they don't BELIVE HE CAN WIN, they don't want him to!
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a powerful voice something they thought they had under control. He is brave to do this, he must know how ruthless they are.
But it had to start somewhere and someone needed to stand up who had the credibility he has.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)I can always count on you to say what I think better than I can...
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Thank you.
Excellent points.
Anyone who still has their authenticity and truth-seeking self in there somewhere (which is everyone, can't help it, no matter what they do) can resonate to the truth and to authenticity, clearly articulated and acted upon.
That is why he is drawing the crowds. That is why he can win. That is why in any good ending film the hero wins, no matter how hopeless it seemed at the start. "The Karate Kid". Etc. It's not because it's an obvious choice or ordained somehow that they will win. What kind of story would that be?
Bernie is the Democratic David. And I'm with him as long as he's in it.
Emerson said, in his essay on Self-reliance, "Trust thyself. Every human heart vibrates to that iron string". If enough people trust themselves, their hearts, their sense of what is right and wrong, their sense of what has been going wrong with this country, Bernie and the country will be just fine.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)it.
I might put this on business cards to leave in places I visit.
I think (democratic socialism), he has said means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship all of our people have health care; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality child care, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly. Thats all it means
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)I have an envelope full of Bernie fliers, 4x6 cards, wallet-sized cards, so I'll just add these to it. I leave something on grocery store shelves, on restaurant tables, in shopping carts, etc...leave wherever you go! They're also handy to have when someone asks about Bernie. This definition will be a great thing to have on hand.
Thanks for posting the article!
appalachiablue
(41,105 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I read a lot of fiction, and I really notice to what extent the writer gets things right, especially in historical novels. All too often we get fully modern people dressed in old clothes. There are certain authors whose works I can't read because of that problem.
I also want that kind of authenticity in the people I'm being asked to trust to run my country. Bernie seems very much to be the real deal.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The people recognize it when they see it.
Sliceo
(39 posts)Who is she?
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)appalachiablue
(41,105 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)It revived my drooping spirit. There can never be too many of these testimonials!
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Keep up the good fight.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Ever since I discovered Queen this year (slow learner) I have been listening to the anthems as battle cries....for us Boomers and our descendants.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Queen's music is new to you. It is like finding a rare treasure.
artislife
(9,497 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)The Democratic Race: Conditions Auspicious for Sen. Clinton to Win
Gallups 2007 national presidential polling strongly points to Clinton winning the 2008 Democratic nomination. Barring something unusual or otherwise unexpected, she is well positioned for the 2008 Democratic primaries. Obama has not been an insignificant rival: he came within single digits of tying Clinton for the lead at two points this spring. But he has recently lost ground and is now in the weakest position relative to Clinton that he has been in all year.
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Clinton has led the Democratic pack in every Gallup Poll conducted between November 2006 and October 2007. For most of this time, Clinton has led Obama by a double-digit margin.
Clintons lead over Obama has expanded to nearly 30 points in Gallups latest poll, conducted Oct. 12-14: 50% vs. 21%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102277/gallup-election-review-october-2007.aspx
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Clinton has led the Democratic pack in every Gallup Poll conducted between November 2006 and October 2007. For most of this time, Clinton has led Obama by a double-digit margin.
Clintons lead over Obama has expanded to nearly 30 points in Gallups latest poll, conducted Oct. 12-14: 50% vs. 21%.
Hillary was up by 30 points in Oct of 2007.
Don't count your chickens before your eggs hatch.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but even still, many signing up to vote and many voting in the dem primary are indies or undeclared and even some repubs. and they want bernie.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)still_one
(92,062 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)DrBulldog
(841 posts)But does that mean we have to select right now the first one that comes along walking down the street even though she's one very sorry pathetic dishonest example of a woman politician?
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)I don't trust Hillary, having said that, there are many more men in politics that I don't trust either.
I couldn't list all the names of men politicians that I don't trust without crashing my computer.
I do trust Bernie Sanders as having the potential of being a great President and doing his damn best once in the Oval Office of living up to his words and actions on the campaign trail and long before that, throughout his career.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)K&R!
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Peace to you, MrMickeysMom.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)It just looks like a woman of color endorsing someone other than Hillary - it's just a trick of the camera making the white male look like a Sanders supporter.
I'm sure we'll all wake up tomorrow and find out it was just a right winger that merely pretended to support someone other than Hillary.
~ahem~
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)elleng
(130,773 posts)compared with the way the media treats Martin O'Malley?
This is a sad joke!
aidbo
(2,328 posts)questionseverything
(9,645 posts)how low he polls
bernie has built a movement with volunteers using social media getting 10s of thousands to show up for campaign rallies....nothing omalley is doing compares to that
elleng
(130,773 posts)Which comes first???
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)and we like what we see. Thanks for posting, Uncle Joe.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The media is composed of far too many overpaid idiots who feel the job of the President is to be Wall Street's CEO.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)As they have been for the last 20 years.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Giving it another kick, Uncle Joe.
*mic drop*