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Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:05 AM Oct 2015

Where is the white paper for Hillary Clinton's College affordability plan?

I am trying to research the various plans of the candidates and right now I am on Hillary Clinton's educational plan at her website.

There is a lot about the plan I like.

However there are no numbers or functional details. Usually there's a white paper that gets into such detail. I assume her supporters here would be the first to know. Anyone have a link?

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Where is the white paper for Hillary Clinton's College affordability plan? (Original Post) Bread and Circus Oct 2015 OP
Where are the white papers for any of Sanders plans? BooScout Oct 2015 #1
LOL trumad Oct 2015 #2
Actually I am having the same problem with Sanders plan as well. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #3
Been wondering that myself MichMan Oct 2015 #4
are u from michigan? I am!! Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #6
next to the toilet reddread Oct 2015 #5
:^/ Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #7

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
3. Actually I am having the same problem with Sanders plan as well.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:35 AM
Oct 2015

Believe it or not, my OP is an earnest plea for help.

And to be fair Bernie Sanders' site has less details on this issue than Hillary Clinton's.

Can you please help me?

MichMan

(11,910 posts)
4. Been wondering that myself
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:01 AM
Oct 2015

As far as I know, neither candidate has offered any specifics about how this would be done. Here we are years after passage of the ACA, and we are still finding all these issues that need to be "fixed".

I have a lot of concerns on how the free college tuition plan would be structured and while the candidates are not responsible for whatever Congress does with the actual legislation,at the same time they need to explain their vision.

1) Tuition costs vary from school to school. How would the costs be controlled and how would the differences from one school to the other be handled? If "Blue State U" costs $10K per year and "Red State Tech" costs $14K, would the government just cut a check for every student at those rates? If that was the case, wouldn't Blue State U just raise their tuition to match?, or would they both start raising them?; students wouldn't care since their cost would be zero either way.

2) What about Community Colleges? If tuition is zero at both CC and major 4 year State Colleges, why would anyone not want to go to the big prestigious school with all the amenities?

3) I would assume that applications and enrollment would go up quite a bit. Would the so called "best" schools (highest academics, nicest campus, high profile athletics etc) get more selective in admissions based on SAT test scores? Would this effectively relegate students from urban areas with poorer K-12 schools to the Community College system and to other less desirable or less prestigious institutions?

4) Finally, while legislation can't help this, frankly there are a lot of people that have no business going to college in the first place. Since tuition would be free, would they consume resources and take up space in a traditional college when learning a skilled trade would most likely be a better option career wise?


Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
6. are u from michigan? I am!!
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:43 AM
Oct 2015

Also I agree with you but in thing of note.

In Hillary's plan community college tuition free.

So thats a start!

And I agree with you. How can we properly bicker about the candidates without knowing what they really plan?

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