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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 06:14 PM Oct 2015

The Left Ought to Worry About Hillary Clinton, Hawk and Militarist, in 2016

The Left Ought to Worry About Hillary Clinton, Hawk and Militarist, in 2016
Bob and Barbara Dreyfuss
The Nation
MAY 27, 2014

When it comes to Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy, start first by disentangling the nonsense about Benghazi—a nonexistent scandal if ever there was one—from the broader palette of Clinton’s own, relatively hawkish views. As she consolidates her position as the expected nominee in 2016, with wide leads over all the likely GOP challengers, it ought to worry progressives that the next president of the United States is likely to be much more hawkish than the current one.

But we don’t need a memoir to know that, comparatively speaking, two things can be said about her tenure at the State Department: first, that in fact she accomplished very little; and second, that both before her appointment and during her service, she consistently came down on the hawkish side of debates inside the administration, from Afghanistan to Libya and Syria. She’s also taken a more hawkish line than Obama on Ukraine and the confrontation with Russia.

And, while it’s wrong (and really silly) to call Clinton a neoconservative, she’s more of—how to put it?—a “right-wing realist” on foreign policy, who often backed military intervention as a first or second resort, while others in the White House—especially Obama’s national security staff and Vice President Biden’s own aides, were far more reluctant to employ the troops.

As The Nation noted in 2013, just before the November 2012 election—after Gates had left the administration and was replaced by Leon Panetta—Clinton joined Panetta, CIA Director David Petraeus and the military in proposing that the United States go to war in Syria.

And, more famously, Clinton—joined by several other administration officials, including Samantha Power and Susan Rice—pushed hard, and successfully, for the United States to go to war in Libya.

Since leaving office, Clinton has gone out of her way to sound more hawkish than Obama on a range of issues, including expressing skepticism on the negotiations with Iran. Some observers say that it’s just politics, and that Clinton is positioning herself for 2016. Maybe so. But it sounds a lot like Hillary Clinton is just being, well, Hillary Clinton.



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The Left Ought to Worry About Hillary Clinton, Hawk and Militarist, in 2016 (Original Post) portlander23 Oct 2015 OP
A thousand times this, hifiguy Oct 2015 #1
Political meiosis Fairgo Oct 2015 #3
Reason #1 by a longshot why I cannot in good conscience vote for her. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #2
What's the difference between Hillary and Jeb Bush John Poet Oct 2015 #4
The square root of zip. hifiguy Oct 2015 #6
Cowboy boots? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #7
between this and her wall street ties and TPP and PHARMA the prison industry and Doctor_J Oct 2015 #5
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. A thousand times this,
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 06:24 PM
Oct 2015

If she makes it to the WH, bank on another boots-on-the-ground shooting war within six months.

Like mentor, like student.



Hillary Clinton Praises a Guy With Lots of Blood on His Hands
In lauding Henry Kissinger, the possible Democratic presidential nominee goes far beyond her usual hawkish rhetoric.

At the end of the review, she notes that Kissinger is "surprisingly idealistic":

Even when there are tensions between our values and other objectives, America, he reminds us, succeeds by standing up for our values, not shirking them, and leads by engaging peoples and societies, the sources of legitimacy, not governments alone.

Kissinger reminds us that America succeeds by standing up for its values? Did she inhale?

Chile: Nixon and Kissinger plotted to thwart the democratic election of a socialist president. The eventual outcome: a military coup and a military dictatorship that killed thousands of Chileans.

Argentina: Kissinger gave a "green light" to the military junta's dirty war against political opponents that led to the deaths of an estimated 30,000.

East Timor: Another "green light" from Kissinger, this one for the Indonesian military dictatorship's bloody invasion of East Timor that yielded up to 200,000 deaths.

Cambodia: The secret bombing there during the Nixon phase of the Vietnam War killed between 150,000 and 500,000 civilians.

Bangladesh: Kissinger and Nixon turned a blind eye to—arguably, they tacitly approved—Pakistan's genocidal slaughter of 300,000 Bengalis, most of them Hindus.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-henry-kissinger-world-order

Sorry, Hillionaires, you cant wish away her buddy=buddy connection to one of the 20th century's most notorious war criminals.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. between this and her wall street ties and TPP and PHARMA the prison industry and
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:24 PM
Oct 2015

her views on gay marriage and charter schools, I don't see how any democrat can support her over Sanders

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