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PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 06:19 AM Oct 2015

Clinton opens 31 point lead....

Clinton, judged winner of debate, holds big national lead over Sanders

http://wapo.st/1Gfstue

By a wide margin, Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents rated Clinton over Sanders as the winner of last week’s debate in Las Vegas.


Clinton currently leads the Democratic race with the support of 54 percent of registered Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents. .... Sanders runs second at 23 percent, almost identical to his September number.


More than seven in 10 Democrats say that Clinton has the best chance of the party’s candidates to win the general election..... Just one in five cite Sanders as the party’s strongest candidate.


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Clinton opens 31 point lead.... (Original Post) PosterChild Oct 2015 OP
She's doing very well! BooScout Oct 2015 #1
That's a shame... smiley Oct 2015 #2
Bernie 2016 nt newfie11 Oct 2015 #4
From the MSM who wants her RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #3
yes-- certainly when the media keeps saying Hillary won the debate Fast Walker 52 Oct 2015 #5
And universities. And polling agencies. So they are all skewed against your guy? stevenleser Oct 2015 #25
It is a shame that we cannot get out from under the Clintons... GO BERNIE!! secondwind Oct 2015 #6
They bought and paid for her. tecelote Oct 2015 #7
The universities and polling agencies who have similar polls to the media polling departments bought stevenleser Oct 2015 #26
Oh no. Can't imagine that. They'd never take money or favors to skew results. tecelote Oct 2015 #27
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #8
all This media made Hillary winner is a joke Keep-Left Oct 2015 #9
This defies the prevailing wisdom on DU Orrex Oct 2015 #10
^^^ This is spot on. ^^^ ... nt Persondem Oct 2015 #12
As evidenced by the comments posted . .. PosterChild Oct 2015 #22
+1. Also,click bait online polls show the true sufrommich Oct 2015 #37
Consider the source... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #11
This is a scientific , representive poll, and... PosterChild Oct 2015 #33
this from the same m$m restorefreedom Oct 2015 #13
This is actually the voice .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #29
if you think corporate owned media polls are unbiased... restorefreedom Oct 2015 #36
The attempted Coronation continues... SoapBox Oct 2015 #14
Yep... Helen Borg Oct 2015 #15
Can someone show me how Barak's numbers were this far out for both his wins?? Just curious..eom a kennedy Oct 2015 #16
No, but I can remind you that his name is Barack, not Barak. MineralMan Oct 2015 #18
Sorry, and I should know by now how to spell it. a kennedy Oct 2015 #20
After Hill handles her business Thursday, the numbers oasis Oct 2015 #17
The media has been attacking Clinton for years Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #19
Kick. Agschmid Oct 2015 #21
Wow, they are milking this "winner of the debate" meme/myth for more than it's worth! reformist2 Oct 2015 #23
Bernie should ask DWS to cancel the remaining debates. DCBob Oct 2015 #24
Aheem.... 30% national lead . ... PosterChild Oct 2015 #28
Where are the names and phone number of everyone polled so I can confirm?!? Agschmid Oct 2015 #30
Since that isn't a serrious question... PosterChild Oct 2015 #34
Yup it has been. Agschmid Oct 2015 #38
If only 10% of voters watched, then non of our candidates really draw a crowd huh? Agschmid Oct 2015 #31
ah yes, one of those Corporate Owned pollster polls working for their Corporate Owner. IGNORE. n/t in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #32
Yes, for some of us..... PosterChild Oct 2015 #35

smiley

(1,432 posts)
2. That's a shame...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:16 AM
Oct 2015

Bernie obviously won the debate in my eyes, and has my vote for the primaries.

Go Bernie Go! bounce: :

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
3. From the MSM who wants her
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:30 AM
Oct 2015

Why do we have so much faith in these polls? They are structured in such a way that they ask questions to get the answers that they want.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
5. yes-- certainly when the media keeps saying Hillary won the debate
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:41 AM
Oct 2015

people will tend to think she did and give her more support.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
25. And universities. And polling agencies. So they are all skewed against your guy?
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 10:20 PM
Oct 2015

You should google unskewedpolls.com

This has been asserted before. Of course from the other side of things.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
26. The universities and polling agencies who have similar polls to the media polling departments bought
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 10:20 PM
Oct 2015

and paid for her too?

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
27. Oh no. Can't imagine that. They'd never take money or favors to skew results.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:17 AM
Oct 2015

The Koch brothers have proven that.

 

Keep-Left

(66 posts)
9. all This media made Hillary winner is a joke
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:08 AM
Oct 2015

The media wants a close race for better ratings and more advertising.

They are just reporting the obvious. Hillary won the debate easy. Anyone could see that. Take away the subjects and who fits your beliefs more. Just on Debate performance she clearly won.

I get why people support Bernie. But his performance wasn't nearly as good even if his beliefs are more in line with yours

Orrex

(63,173 posts)
10. This defies the prevailing wisdom on DU
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:18 AM
Oct 2015

1. Any poll that reflects favorably upon Clinton is suspect and driven solely by the corrupt media

2. Any poll that reflects favorably upon Sanders is pure truth accurately portraying the Will Of The People.

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
22. As evidenced by the comments posted . ..
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:21 PM
Oct 2015

.... the other bit of confirmation bias we are subjected to is "everyone I talk to and everyone I know agrees with me, so everyone in America agrees with me".

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
11. Consider the source...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:27 AM
Oct 2015

... and don't you think they're trying just a little too hard to sway public opinion by saying, "THIS IS SO!" when there are equal data saying, "NOT SO FAST!"

I think pollsters should be obliged to reveal how they chose their poll subjects, 'cause it certainly makes a difference WHO you ask, and how were the questions were phrased, 'cause it certainly makes a difference HOW you ask.

And I'd fact-check the Washington Post if it told me the sky was blue.

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
33. This is a scientific , representive poll, and...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:43 AM
Oct 2015

....if you want to understand how the subjects were selected, the exact questions that were asked, and the mechanics of asking them, you just have to read through the detailed disclosure linked to in the article .

Did you do that? Apparently not, since you are demanding something that actually exists and is easily available.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. this from the same m$m
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:38 AM
Oct 2015

thst claims biden has "long odds", should go out on a high note, and should not stand in the way of the first woman president.

yup, no bias there at all,,........

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
29. This is actually the voice ....
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:32 AM
Oct 2015

.... the American people. It's a scientific , nation wide representative poll. Just because it doesn't confirm your particular view doesn't mean that it's wrong or invalid .

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. if you think corporate owned media polls are unbiased...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:30 AM
Oct 2015

i have some nice swampland i am looking to get sell at a nice price

you can design the poll to get any kind of results


MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
18. No, but I can remind you that his name is Barack, not Barak.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:40 AM
Oct 2015

How long has he been President, now, and people are still misspelling his first name? Very confusing.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
19. The media has been attacking Clinton for years
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:45 AM
Oct 2015

Every thing she says is scrutinized and twisted to give the worst possible interpretation. Even after the republicans admit that the Benghazi hearing is a farce, the media continues to give it credence. It is shameful. And it is even more shameful that "liberals" don't see it.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
23. Wow, they are milking this "winner of the debate" meme/myth for more than it's worth!
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:24 PM
Oct 2015

Even though less than 10% of voters actually watched, I would guess 90% have heard the mantra that "Hillary won the debate Hillary won the debate don't you know that Hillary won the debate."

Sickening.

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
28. Aheem.... 30% national lead . ...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:27 AM
Oct 2015

..... this isn't a so-called meme. It's a scientific, national poll. There is a difference . A significant difference .

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
30. Where are the names and phone number of everyone polled so I can confirm?!?
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:37 AM
Oct 2015

...

Just getting that out of the way early.

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
34. Since that isn't a serrious question...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:00 AM
Oct 2015

..... perhaps I shouldn't answer, but the fact is that since it is a scientific poll , and since the methodology, mechanics and questions are fully and adequately disclosed, it would be entirely possible for you to conduct a similar poll and confirm the results.

The willful, enthusiastic , denial of reality that has been on display here is really sad.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
31. If only 10% of voters watched, then non of our candidates really draw a crowd huh?
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:38 AM
Oct 2015

Kind of surprising considering Bernie's crowd size, you think more people would have been enthusiastic to watch the debate.

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