We need to get going on the local level.

For the time being, we have to ride this out. I keep telling myself that if we can survive 8 years of Bush Jr, we can survive anything.

Blessed be.

with her constituency signaling desire for more liberal policies.

"Tut, tut, the dragon tapped back. Unreasoned anguish is nonetheless real." Robert Heinlein

Canada's liberal party is to the left of the Democratic party.

Come on! We can hear this kind of thing from Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, Rush, and hundreds of other right-wing propaganda vendors.

It's a matter of proper use of both.

As for equating HRC to a hard-core union-breaking conservative, that is...unbalanced. To put it nicely.

If someone can provide evidence this is part of HRC's platform I will look at it.

BTW, Trudeau and the Liberal party ran on a typical center left platform. If someone can show where he and they railed against the 1% and the oligarchs I will be glad to look at that too...

policies that tend to result in that giant sucking sound and people sleeping under bushes. I.e., a third-world leadership mentality, not that they are insightful enough to realize it.

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Trudeau is to the left of Clinton because Canada is to the left of the United States but it's helpful to compare things to like things.

But in this analogy Clinton is Trudeau and whomever the Repubs nominate is Harper.

That all Canadian federal political parties are to the left of both parties in America is well known and irrefutable.

And the NDP is the most leftist of all.....and finished third.

While Americans are similar to Canadians our respective histories do not make us the same.

send their kids to college, and retire. Democrats are not helping the middle class. If we are to get back to where we were 60 years ago we need real change, not Hillary.

Even the Tories would not scrap the national health system. Voters had an even more progressive choice with NDP, which is more in line with Bernie.

She is to be feared. She just seems like she's on our side.

CBC, while we have News Corp, General Electric, and Time Warner.

their TV stations aren't any different than ours other than having more Canadian content by law. I'm saying that CBC is no more popular in Canada than PBS is here.

PBS and NPR are corporate now.

Canadians are better informed because they get their news from CBC,that's like saying Americans get their news from PBS.Like Americans,Canadians have multiple sources for news.

and they cover international news without pundit interference. They have separate shows/segments for their talking heads to opine as opposed to including the punditry as part of their news reporting.

I think we are better informed, overall, because, unlike the US news which tends to be US centric, CBC spends time with indepth reports on international reports as well as on national news.

The new Liberal government will add funding back to CBC because they know Canadians, overall, support the crown corporation.

a rare commodity these days, imo. He doesn't allow spurious rumors to be broadcast as facts, reports only verified facts during breaking news unlike other media outlets who will report facebook posts and tweets as if they are factual reports.

I have the greatest respect for him.

I'm tired of that shit, and it's all because most of the country is reality TV driven.

I hope we follow suit.

She's a self admitted moderate. She admitted she represents Wall Street, she's nothing like Justin Trudeau or Bernie Sanders.

Sanders and Clinton are different in many ways. Example, Clinton, Obama, Biden and Kennedy all voted for a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people. Sanders voted against it. I would put Sanders vote with respect to the ten plus million people he fought against, and their extended family, up to the morality of Hillarys IWR vote any day. It is clear though that Sanders is to Clintons left on economic issues. Often much further left.

She is a progressive. Thanks for telling me to wake up. Even the most simple comments here are greeted with a passive-aggressive attitude.

it would have been bad for immigrants.

Yes, I'm sure you think they are currently better off. You do realize they would currently be citizens. Not in fear of themselves and their family members being deported. It's pretty cold to claim they are better off in their current situation. Here is the real kicker. After Sanders was used by the GOP in fighting against a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people, did the GOP then stop fighting for the IT visas? So, Sanders helped them to stop a pathway to citizenship mostly because of visa's. Did the GOP then stop fighting for the visa's? Yeah, really principled there. Helped insure they got what they wanted, blocking a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people, then out of respect for Sanders they took the visa issue off the table. Right?

she isn't even a "moderate", she's a RIGHT of Center, Third Way, DLC BLUE DOG. Not even close to a "moderate."

She supports -
FRACKING
Wall St. Greedy THIEVES
The TPP
PRISONS FOR PROFITS
Wars, wars, wars and more wars
Voted for the IWR
Voted for the Patriot Act
Voted for the Bankruptcy Bill

That's not even close to moderate. Just because she says it, it doesn't make it true, as we well know.

Bernie will be our next President.

Trudeau supports TPP and the Keystone pipeline.

the TPP would be in Canadian businesses best interests.


Statement by Liberal Party of Canada Leader Justin Trudeau on the Trans-Pacific Partnership
October 5, 2015

https://www.liberal.ca/statement-by-liberal-party-of-canada-leader-justin-trudeau-on-the-trans-pacific-partnership/





http://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/360130/groser-canada-result-shouldnt-affect-tpp

She holds nearly every same view as Trudeau. Get over it.

I do believe HRC is rhetorically to his right on foreign policy with the emphasis on the word rhetorically.

Said "I'm not a pacifist, I'm prepared to take this country to war if I have to!".

You were saying?

I mentioned in another about how I do not like his stance on Israel. No matter how you try to frame it Hillary is still a Wall Street candidate.

"I oppose all use of American military power under any circumstances, and in fact, I think we should disband the military and turn the Pentagon into low income housing."

And she will break the glass ceiling next..

We can regulate markets and raise wages without demonizing employers.

You dropped this.

She wants to be the small business president.

I wonder what her idea of small business is.

I say this as a small business owner.

Janeyvee you like a conservative.

if you weren't a shallow ignorant oaf .

progressive left and they lost seats. Canada is a centrist country, center left.

They have had national health for decades. Same sex marriage has been a right for years. Even sex work is legal to a limited degree. Harper was the most conservative PM they've ever had as the Tories used to be to the left of American Republibans. BTW Trudaeu supports TPP.

Largely because they vote progressive.

but even they have distanced themselves from the socialist label.

the stampede.

They have to let me in. LOL.

The NDP could have won, but instead Canada gets Trudeau. "Change" indeed.

and are not all that excited about him.

Bernie or bust!

Bill and Hillary are center right.