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Call me cynical (Original Post) Robbins Oct 2015 OP
He surveyed the field and decided there wasn't a pathway to victory... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #1
I think he realizes he came too late to the party.nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #2
I don't really think that is cynical at all. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #3
There was never a 'backup plan.' Hillary has been far ahead all year. onehandle Oct 2015 #4
Exactly correct. n/t Beausoir Oct 2015 #32
Or, maybe he was able to figure it out all by himself. NurseJackie Oct 2015 #5
Welcome... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #8
Thank you. NurseJackie Oct 2015 #10
I was sad how Nurse Jackie ended but it least it ended with her alive./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #16
Carmella Soprano lived as well. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #26
I have a crush on Edie Falco... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #28
Makes me wonder what hillary has on him.... bowens43 Oct 2015 #6
A 30-point lead in the polls. nt BlueCheese Oct 2015 #9
Check and mate. NurseJackie Oct 2015 #12
But where is the conspiracy in that? sufrommich Oct 2015 #13
Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #17
Mic drop!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #23
Boom. zappaman Oct 2015 #29
Lol! n/t Beausoir Oct 2015 #33
Ha! Codeine Oct 2015 #34
Biden sounded much more like Bernie Sanders, than Hillary, in his not-running speech 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #7
You're dreaming. nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #15
Of course I am, and I'm not the only one. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #22
I disagree with him about the Republicans katmondoo Oct 2015 #11
I agree.That was basically signaling the GOP to carry on sufrommich Oct 2015 #19
Nah. I think he made this decision on his own. Tipperary Oct 2015 #14
this is no more cynical than the other stuff you've been posting recently Sheepshank Oct 2015 #18
I agree Renew Deal Oct 2015 #20
Oh yeah. A LOT of backroom deals were being made, but their in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #21
"A LOT of backroom deals were being made" Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #24
Occam's Razor suggests he didn't run because he didn't think he could win. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #25
"A LOT of backroom deals were being made" zappaman Oct 2015 #30
ALCOA! FSogol Oct 2015 #27
"Cynical" is not the word I would use. zappaman Oct 2015 #31

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
1. He surveyed the field and decided there wasn't a pathway to victory...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:35 PM
Oct 2015

He surveyed the field and decided there wasn't a pathway to victory...I believe when I made that prediction on 10/13/15 you said to me "you're lost."

That's okay...It's water under the bridge now...


Joe, "there's no shame in quitting while you're ahead."

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. I don't really think that is cynical at all.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015

It is the exact same thing as saying he was assessing his chances at being victorious in the primary.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. There was never a 'backup plan.' Hillary has been far ahead all year.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:39 PM
Oct 2015

The only people pushing the 'backup plan conspiracy' are the 'Not Hillary' Party and paid political pundits.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. Or, maybe he was able to figure it out all by himself.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:41 PM
Oct 2015

I think Biden is intelligent enough that the "establishment" didn't need to convince him of anything.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Welcome...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:42 PM
Oct 2015

I loved Edie Falco's work as Carmella Soprano and Nurse Jackie.

She could play Hillary in a biopic.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
28. I have a crush on Edie Falco...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:29 PM
Oct 2015

I think strong women rock... I was raised by a widowed mom...Hillary reminds me of my mom in appearance and demeanor...My dad was a Golden Gloves boxer and Purple Heart recipient but when it came to standing up for herself my mom was the strong one. My dad shied away from confrontation. My mom went head first into it.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
7. Biden sounded much more like Bernie Sanders, than Hillary, in his not-running speech
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:42 PM
Oct 2015

Income-inequality, Citizens United, et. al.

And Joe's been dinging Hillary over the past week, and during his speech, saying
he's NOT supporting her, suggesting calling R's "enemies" isn't wise, etc.

Hilllary is NOT a candidate who Joe feels will "continue Obama's legacy" i.e. to
finish the job Obama started. I'm starting to think that the adults in the WH
may do something totally unexpected and end up endorsing Bernie Sanders at
some point, at just the right time.

Seriously, who else is the WH going to support, given that Biden is out?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
22. Of course I am, and I'm not the only one.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:10 PM
Oct 2015

It is not often in life that one gets to fully support a candidate who is TRULY their
"Dream Candidate" <-- best candidate ever, since RFK.

I'd be a fool not to, especially since -- unlike Nader or Kucinich -- Bernie is in this
to win it, and he's poised to have a genuine shot at the nomination. This is totally
not 'in the tank' for Hillary, tho I know many of her supporters love to believe otherwise.

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
11. I disagree with him about the Republicans
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:45 PM
Oct 2015

They have done everything possible to make sure Obama was unable to govern. The constant attacks against the Clintons for decades and they will continue if she gets the nomination, if she wins the Presidency it will be no holds barred. I believe she can handle it as she knows her enemy but it will still not be easy. Yes Joe, the Republicans are the enemy not all but most.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. I agree.That was basically signaling the GOP to carry on
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:56 PM
Oct 2015

as usual,I don't think he did it on purpose,but now is the time to drive home that the GOP has lost its mind and would rather destroy the country than compromise.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
14. Nah. I think he made this decision on his own.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:48 PM
Oct 2015

We have a great group of candidates, and I will vote for the nominee.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
18. this is no more cynical than the other stuff you've been posting recently
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:56 PM
Oct 2015

hope your days finally get a little brighter.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
21. Oh yeah. A LOT of backroom deals were being made, but their
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:03 PM
Oct 2015

decision made according to how the Corporate Owned talking heads pushed Hillary, while erasing online poll results, ignoring focus group results, after-the-debate fundraising and picking up tens of thousands new Twitter followers and most Googled stats, is a HUGE miscalculation on their part.

Hillary is not going to be the nominee, so.....all their backroom dirty dealings were for naught.

No, you're not cynical. You're in sync with D.C. dirty politics. That's what they do. They THINK they can choose who THEY want to be the candidate and they can't. Not anymore.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
24. "A LOT of backroom deals were being made"
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:16 PM
Oct 2015

Where's your evidence of this?

Surely you wouldn't make an allegation like that without evidence to back it up...

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