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MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:20 PM Oct 2015

Whoosh! The Sound of Unstoppable Momentum

is being heard across the land. The next round of national polls will tell the story clearly. 60%-30% is decisive, I think, and that will be the neighborhood they will show.

Joe Biden's decision not to enter the race will be a game-changer, I believe.

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Whoosh! The Sound of Unstoppable Momentum (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2015 OP
4 months to go... HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #1
The lead will increase over those months, I'm sure. MineralMan Oct 2015 #3
So with Joe out is good for Bernie? Duckfan Oct 2015 #57
Hillary has the MoJO riversedge Oct 2015 #6
My thoughts as well. Bernie seems to have a ceiling when it comes to his support. StrongBad Oct 2015 #2
Whoosh! The sound of whatever Biden and Obama are up to going right over my head. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #4
I don't know if we'll find out very soon. MineralMan Oct 2015 #5
Whooshing through the primaries. HassleCat Oct 2015 #7
I think you might be very surprised, actually. MineralMan Oct 2015 #9
I think you're right about the GOP role in all this HassleCat Oct 2015 #17
300? That's some prediction Fearless Oct 2015 #25
Actually, depending on who the Republican candidate is, MineralMan Oct 2015 #27
Or not even close. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #71
We apparently have different opinions. MineralMan Oct 2015 #72
why? because the M$M tells us so azurnoir Oct 2015 #64
The unstoppable momentum of giving away more of our stuff in all likelihood. highprincipleswork Oct 2015 #8
I beg your pardon, but that sounds very much like MineralMan Oct 2015 #11
He's talking about her siding with Wall Street. JRLeft Oct 2015 #48
I'm pleased. Aerows Oct 2015 #10
OK. nt MineralMan Oct 2015 #12
I'm well aware Aerows Oct 2015 #13
OK. nt MineralMan Oct 2015 #14
I like your post. Tipperary Oct 2015 #21
I couldn't agree with you more! Aerows Oct 2015 #26
Me too, on the traction thing. Tipperary Oct 2015 #45
He got in too late Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #78
Biden voted for the Iraq war and flip-flopped on gay marriage JTShroyer Oct 2015 #41
Are you implying that I am Aerows Oct 2015 #46
At least a tad hypocritical maybe. JTFrog Oct 2015 #68
I'm glad you recognize "hypocritical" Aerows Oct 2015 #79
She has the charisma of a wet dish rag. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #73
1 debate, no primary votes, battling polls and pundits, lots of road to travel... whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #15
I have no chickens, so that count is zero, and will continue to MineralMan Oct 2015 #24
Maybe. Tipperary Oct 2015 #16
We'll see, for sure. MineralMan Oct 2015 #20
Of course. Hey, I predicted that Biden would run. Tipperary Oct 2015 #47
Democracy at it's finest. GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #18
Yup. MineralMan Oct 2015 #23
Whooosh.... catnhatnh Oct 2015 #19
I've made my support of Hillary Clinton clear. MineralMan Oct 2015 #22
Wow-- so someone else with your name made this OP? Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #63
No, that was me. I changed my mind, as reflected MineralMan Oct 2015 #66
You just like to play mind games Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #67
You have no idea what I "like." MineralMan Oct 2015 #69
+1000 Segami Oct 2015 #53
Whoosh, the sound of me finally putting him on ignore. Flying Squirrel Oct 2015 #74
The Untoppable momentum of the Status Quo Armstead Oct 2015 #28
It will not be the status quo if there is a woman at the head of this country Gloria Oct 2015 #29
That may well be a deciding factor, as will the votes of MineralMan Oct 2015 #31
It will be better in the sense of gender equality. But otherwise, neh. Armstead Oct 2015 #33
Well, at this point, we are in dire need of gender equality... Gloria Oct 2015 #56
I agree but it' also myopicc to pin on that on one person and symbolic change Armstead Oct 2015 #59
At the moment, there is just one candidate that is MineralMan Oct 2015 #60
I'd rather it be a clearly populist and progressive women who does that... Armstead Oct 2015 #62
In this election, we have one Democratic woman running. MineralMan Oct 2015 #70
Ah, but one person CAN become a focal point...Obama Gloria Oct 2015 #77
Especially one who supports TPP Duckfan Oct 2015 #58
Hillary opposes the TPP. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #65
Inertia is very difficult to overcome, indeed. MineralMan Oct 2015 #30
Well, we're trying to overcome that inertia Armstead Oct 2015 #34
Yes, I know you are. And good luck to you. MineralMan Oct 2015 #36
Biden's choice takes away the last major source of uncertainity as to who the candidates are. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #32
The media has the GOP Clown Show to cover. MineralMan Oct 2015 #35
Media profits thrive on drama, and they will move heaven and earth to keep the Democratic Race Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #37
I doubt it. Instead, I think they'll decide that the race is MineralMan Oct 2015 #39
It's really put them between a rock and hard place Fumesucker Oct 2015 #55
Great one, MM. longship Oct 2015 #43
Thanks! MineralMan Oct 2015 #44
What if she gets indicted? Yurovsky Oct 2015 #38
She's not going to be indicted. MineralMan Oct 2015 #40
How do you know? Yurovsky Oct 2015 #49
General Petraeus knowingly gave classified information to his paramour. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #61
Common misconception about the FBI JTShroyer Oct 2015 #42
Exactly! leftofcool Oct 2015 #51
Do you know how federal indictments work? MineralMan Oct 2015 #76
I believe you are right MM workinclasszero Oct 2015 #50
F#(% all republicans and freepers. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #52
No thanks. MineralMan Oct 2015 #54
Unstoppable Momentum Whooshing kenn3d Oct 2015 #75

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
3. The lead will increase over those months, I'm sure.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:23 PM
Oct 2015

Others may disagree, but we're certain to find out.

 

StrongBad

(2,100 posts)
2. My thoughts as well. Bernie seems to have a ceiling when it comes to his support.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:23 PM
Oct 2015

The debates were supposed to change that as it was thought to be due to lack of recognition of who he was and what he stood for.

That reasoning doesn't stand any longer.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
5. I don't know if we'll find out very soon.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:27 PM
Oct 2015

Traditionally, sitting Presidents and Vice-Presidents have stayed away from endorsements in primaries. I would expect that tradition to be upheld by President Obama and VP Biden.

I guess it could change, but I don't expect it to. On the other hand, we may be able to read their intentions from things that are said. Even today, Joe Biden said he wanted to extend the Obama Legacy. That legacy includes a candidate who was Secretary of State in the Obama administration.

I think the public will understand pretty well, although some will not be happy.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. Whooshing through the primaries.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:30 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton should have minimum difficulty winning her party's nomination. Her trouble will be winning the general election. She will have to rely largely on registered Democrats, and there has to be a concerted effort to get them to the polls. Her appeal to independents and moderate Republicans is not great, so she must see to it that the party faithful vote.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
9. I think you might be very surprised, actually.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:34 PM
Oct 2015

Her appeal will be broader than many expect. Who the Republican nominee turns out to be will be a factor, as well, of course. Right now, that's unknown. I can't imagine it being Donald Trump, but who knows. The Republicans appear to be marginalizing their own party at the moment. I don't know if they can recover in time for November, 2016.

As for the party faithful, they'll turn out. There will be lots of people out there encouraging them with GOTV activism.

An early prediction: Hillary with 300+ electoral votes.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
17. I think you're right about the GOP role in all this
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:43 PM
Oct 2015

They appear to be on the verge of creating backlash, as they did when they impeached Bill Clinton. The huge majority of citizens were repelled by the Republicans' actions. Trying to remove a president for lying about oral sex, while simultaneously demanding we be outraged, was a little too much for people to stomach. Since that episode, they are somewhat on the lookout for similar tricks, and they're seeing the Benghazi and email investigations for what they are. If the Republicans keep seeding on the Crazy Train, they are going to miss the big curve next November. Any Democrat could beat them easily.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
72. We apparently have different opinions.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:50 AM
Oct 2015

One thing's certain. We'll find out what the truth is at some point.

My opinion is that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee and will win with at least 300 electoral votes. You can bookmark that and we can discuss it after the election.

Until then, there are only opinions.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
11. I beg your pardon, but that sounds very much like
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:34 PM
Oct 2015

a Republican talking point. Perhaps you can elaborate a bit.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. I'm pleased.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:34 PM
Oct 2015

I would have definitely voted for Joe Biden over Hillary Clinton, and now all I have to worry about is making sure Bernie is the nominee.

This makes it infinitely easier to get him through the primary.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
21. I like your post.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

I am for Hillary, but I would have hesitated had Biden run. I love that Bernie is in the race. I like him actually, and I think he is making for a good race. I like O'Malley too. My mind is still open, but at least I can cross Biden off now. We are lucky for the choices we have. I sure hope we all come together in the end.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
26. I couldn't agree with you more!
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015

I like O'Malley, as well. I'm genuinely puzzled as to why he hasn't gotten more traction. He's a fantastic candidate.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
45. Me too, on the traction thing.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:44 PM
Oct 2015

Bad team, or what?

He needs to get out there. We still have debates to come so maybe he will start to shine a bit more.

JTShroyer

(246 posts)
41. Biden voted for the Iraq war and flip-flopped on gay marriage
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:22 PM
Oct 2015

But please tell me more about how you like him more than Hillary. Women with power can be "scary" to both genders.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
79. I'm glad you recognize "hypocritical"
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:51 PM
Oct 2015

when you see it.

I don't have to be in love with Hillary to dislike certain politicians for their views, votes and vocations.

We can trade barbs, my friend, but it's not productive for either of us.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
73. She has the charisma of a wet dish rag.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:51 AM
Oct 2015

Seriously, that's the difference.

I don't find her likable at all and it has nothing to do with her gender. She's "meh" to me. Joe seems a lot more "sparkly."

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
15. 1 debate, no primary votes, battling polls and pundits, lots of road to travel...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:42 PM
Oct 2015

You'd be wise not to count your chickens. Sanders supporters aren't going anywhere, we're in for the duration. We will work harder than ever to stop the momentum of the neoliberal gravy train.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
24. I have no chickens, so that count is zero, and will continue to
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:52 PM
Oct 2015

be zero. I'm voicing my opinion of the situation. If my opinion turns out to be incorrect, I'll admit that I was wrong.

I'm sure that supporters of Bernie Sanders will continue to support him. Good luck with your campaign. I'm not seeing it in the same way, though, from a realist's point of view. I could be wrong, though. We'll see.

I predicted that Biden wouldn't run weeks ago, and have been adding about 75% of his polling numbers to Hillary's results since then when I think about the primaries. We'll soon find out if that was a valid calculation. If it is, future national polling will show about a 60-30% result for Hillary and Bernie.

There will be fresh poll results from major polling companies on Monday or Tuesday. Earlier ones won't be as accurate. We'll see.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
20. We'll see, for sure.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:44 PM
Oct 2015

I just posted my opinion of what I think will happen. If I'm wrong, I'll certainly admit it.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
23. Yup.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015

Candidates declare their candidacy or they don't. In this case, one announce that he was not running. That changes the race, but people will still be voting. Democracy.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
22. I've made my support of Hillary Clinton clear.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:46 PM
Oct 2015

I'm not neutral. I like Bernie Sanders a great deal, but do not believe he will be the nominee, nor that he could win the General Election. You've misread my stance.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
63. Wow-- so someone else with your name made this OP?
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:16 AM
Oct 2015
I support Bernie Sanders in the Primaries

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251413502

And they also made this post?

"That's why I'm supporting Senator Sanders in Minnesota"

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6725737

pfffffft

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
66. No, that was me. I changed my mind, as reflected
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

in this post, made later than those. People change their minds.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251507197

I always reserve that right.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
69. You have no idea what I "like."
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:46 AM
Oct 2015

Look at the timeline. I'm consistent, and I clearly announced my change of position.

So, your response is to call me a "freeper?" I was banned from that website for "anti-freeping" in 2006. I haven't posted there since. I haven't even followed a link to that site for several years.

Name-calling is no substitute for reading my posts, nor is selective linking any more valid.

You posted two links. I posted one that was the post I made after changing my support. The reason for that change is well-illustrated in this subthread.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
29. It will not be the status quo if there is a woman at the head of this country
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:03 PM
Oct 2015

and women are integrated better into the life of this nation....I think on that score alone, this will upset the status quo as women will have a voice that they can hear every day....

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
56. Well, at this point, we are in dire need of gender equality...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:47 AM
Oct 2015

It spreads through the well-being of children , families and the entire economy..

"Neh"?

Myopic!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
59. I agree but it' also myopicc to pin on that on one person and symbolic change
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 09:51 AM
Oct 2015

It's the policies that matter -- including the policies that affect the economic well being of women, families and children, and the support of opportunities and public services and programs.

I'm not myopic about that. I would rather see another person who is stronger on that aspect to be the woman who breaks that ceiling.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
60. At the moment, there is just one candidate that is
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 09:57 AM
Oct 2015

available to break that ceiling. I don't know about you, but waiting until someone else shows up seems like a poor strategy.

Policies without legislation aren't very useful, though. We need someone to push for legislation, and we need it now, not some unspecified time in the future.

In many areas, like reproductive choice, women's rights are being challenged seriously by Republicans. In other areas, too, Republicans are trying to turn the clock backward, rather than forward.

I'm more than ready for a woman in the White House. It's a change that is long overdue. In 2016, there's only one possibility for that to happen, and I'm for that change.

No presidential candidate is perfect, and none will ever be.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
62. I'd rather it be a clearly populist and progressive women who does that...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:05 AM
Oct 2015

Progress on issues of concern to women are just as likely to be successfully dealt with no matter what gender the President is.


As for legislation, no indication she would have no better luck with legislation than Bernie. Same legislative roadblocks for both of them. Maybe she's have less luck because he is not as personally polarizing despite his ideological surface. He walked into the lion's den in Burlington, and he managed to work successfully with Republicans and business types.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
70. In this election, we have one Democratic woman running.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

I support her candidacy. You do not. We disagree.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
77. Ah, but one person CAN become a focal point...Obama
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:25 PM
Oct 2015

didn't change the perception of blacks or even helped them much on practical terms, largely to economic problems and the GOP....BUT, his election DID expose the racist crap in this country..for ages, swept under the rug...and opened the voting suppression issues, police justice, etc etc big time. There are many ripples of such a huge, historic first!!

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
30. Inertia is very difficult to overcome, indeed.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:05 PM
Oct 2015

The status quo represents inertia in politics. Right now, that status quo is President Obama and a Democratic President.

Inertia. It will take an amazing amount of force to overcome the tendency for Democrats to select anyone but a mainstream Democrat as the nominee. Yes, that's certainly in play in the Democratic primaries.

Inertia is why most of Joe Biden's polling results and primary votes will go to Hillary Clinton.

I don't think there's enough force on Sanders' side to shift the balance, frankly.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. Well, we're trying to overcome that inertia
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

Just a matter of how much stronger the forces of inertia, I guess

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
36. Yes, I know you are. And good luck to you.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

I'm just not seeing it right now. Biden's decision has added momentum to the Clinton campaign. It's going to be more difficult to divert that path and get that train going in another direction.

It's not a perfect analogy, but it's a working one.

60-30 within two weeks in national polling aggregates. That's my prediction. NH and IA will be a lot closer, but they'll be affected as well. I can see the potential for a switch in leadership in the polling in those two states, too, as a real possibility. SC and NV are not competitive, frankly, and Super Tuesday's not looking good for Bernie, either.

I predicted months ago that Sanders would be out on March 2, permanently. I don't see any change in that prediction from my point of view. The train is gaining speed.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
32. Biden's choice takes away the last major source of uncertainity as to who the candidates are.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:06 PM
Oct 2015

After the Republicans were nice enough to pull their own fangs from the Benghazi investigation, and with the Email story dead in the water, all that remains is the media's desire to inject drama in order to make it a horse race.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
35. The media has the GOP Clown Show to cover.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

Plenty of meat there to feed the hungry lions. And then there's the House speaker's race, too. Tonight, it will all be Joe Biden's decision, with pundits making their predictions of its effect. But that will fade quickly, and the media's attention will return to the circus under the Republican tent.

Lions aren't vegetarians, so they go where the meat is.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
37. Media profits thrive on drama, and they will move heaven and earth to keep the Democratic Race
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:15 PM
Oct 2015

a cataclysmic struggle between titanic opponents for the heart, mind, and soul of the Democratic party.

Media profits demand it.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
39. I doubt it. Instead, I think they'll decide that the race is
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:16 PM
Oct 2015

all but over and shift to something more meaty. We'll see.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
55. It's really put them between a rock and hard place
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:42 PM
Oct 2015

The M$M desperately wants to tout a horse race but they absolutely don't want to talk about Bernie Sanders or his platform.

The resulting cognitive dissonance is going to be wondrous to behold.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. Great one, MM.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:40 PM
Oct 2015

I am more or less with you on your predictions.

And I love your "Lions aren't vegetarians..." comment. So true.

R& for that alone.

As always, my best to you.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
38. What if she gets indicted?
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:16 PM
Oct 2015

While I personally don't think her email "scandal" is a big deal, I'm not privy to the FBI investigation. What if laws were broken and she gets indicted? What if that happens after she's already accumulated enough delegates to win the nomination?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that will happen nor is that what I want to transpire. But what if it comes to pass? Even that jackass Trump would probably beat her if she was running for POTUS under indictment.

If she gets the nomination, I would hope that President Obama would shut down the FBI investigation if he has any legal standing in which he can do so. I'm surprised it's gone on this long, and the fact that it's an executive branch department (Justice) and not just a Congressional fishing expedition worries me. I want some clarity and finality, and HRC's continuing evolving/changing storyline doesn't inspire confidence. Just get the shit out there and move on.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
40. She's not going to be indicted.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:17 PM
Oct 2015

There's no there there, unless you're a Republican doing wishful thinking. There's not going to be an indictment. No laws were broken.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
49. How do you know?
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:25 PM
Oct 2015

First, I'm probably the furthest thing from a republican, and I'm not supporting a corporate subsidiary (aka Hillary) like you.

And as I stated, I don't think there's anything there, but since neither I nor you are privy to the specifics of whatever is being investigated, how can we know with 100% certainty? It's not wishful thinking on my part, it's being prepared for the worst case scenario. Powerful people (Gen. Patreus ring a bell?) have been charged for mishandling emails, so to say wth 100% certainty that nothing can happen to Hillary is bullshit. You have ZERO way of knowing that.

I prefer to support an actual progressive whose integrity is beyond reproach. If your candidate manages to use her dirty corporate money to buy the nomination and then gets frog-marched to a booking, just remember you had the chance to support a better candidate. Sorry if he's not a DLC-boot licker, but that wing of the party has, by and large, already left the building (thankfully).

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
61. General Petraeus knowingly gave classified information to his paramour.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:03 AM
Oct 2015

General Petraeus knowingly gave classified information to his paramour. There is no indication Hillary did anything like that and the attorney who prosecuted General Petraeus agrees:

Former attorney general Michael Mukasey recently compared the inquiry into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server when she was secretary of State with former CIA director David Petraeus’ federal conviction for the unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability.

The facts of Petraeus’ case are a matter of public record. During his tenure as the commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, Petraeus recorded handwritten notes in personal journals, including information he knew was classified at the very highest levels.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/30/clinton-controversy-no-comparison-petraeus-column/71421242/

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
76. Do you know how federal indictments work?
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

Many people think that the FBI can indict someone. That's incorrect. The FBI is an investigative agency only, and has no power to issue criminal indictments. It can arrest criminals but it cannot indict anyone. That requires the Justice Department to call a Federal Grand Jury and present evidence of criminal conduct to that Grand Jury. Only the Grand Jury can indict. What do you suppose the likelihood is that the United States Justice Department will do that, especially given the evidence that no laws were actually broken? I'd say they were as close to zero as it is possible to get. The private email server was allowed under the rules in place at the time. So far, the only evidence of classified information occurring in emails was on emails received by Hillary Clinton. I haven't heard of anything sent by her that was classified at the time it was sent.

There will be no indictment.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. I believe you are right MM
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:27 PM
Oct 2015

Can't wait for the next round of scientific polls showing Hillary with a huge, insurmountable lead!

kenn3d

(486 posts)
75. Unstoppable Momentum Whooshing
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:42 PM
Oct 2015

Unstoppable Momentum Whooshing is pretty much the same as Inevitable Whooshing. At this point they're both just whooshful thinking on the part of establishmentarians imo. To my ear any such whooshing sounds are very much like that Great Sucking Sound caused by the American dream being vacuumed into the pockets of the oligarchs... which has also been heard across the land for some decades now.

But take heart my democratic friends, and don't despair quite yet... IA and NH are currently both statistical ties.

Anything can happen.

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