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SleeplessinSoCal

(8,998 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:37 PM Oct 2015

Frank or biased assessment from PoliticusUSA?

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/21/scientific-polls-rising-numbers-reveal-hillary-clinton-won-debate.html

"Over the past couple of months it has been revealing to watch the Democratic presidential crusade and not because the candidates are very different. No, what has been exposed is a seeming chasm between supporters of the two leading candidates and the vitriol coming out of one candidate’s supporters is getting tiresome."

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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. Biased and misleading. Check this one sentence
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:44 PM
Oct 2015

"One finds it curious that, although there is very little difference between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, supposed Democrats attack other Democrats and liberal commenters as if they are enemies."

There are huge differences between Clinton and Sanders on policy, even tho Clinton has very conveniently chosen to mimic Elizabeth Warrens views as much as possible in the past couple months still wide chasms exist. Bernie is for the $15 minimum wage, Clinton is not.
Bernie is for reinstating Glass Steagal, Clinton is not.
Bernie wants to break up too big to fail banks, Clinton does not.
Bernie wants to expand social security, raise taxes on the wealthy, make corporations pay their fair share of taxes, Clinton is not.

Also bernie is not a warhawk, and Clinton is already rattling sabers at iran.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. They voted the same in the Senate 93% of the time
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:30 PM
Oct 2015

They really aren't that different, especially not in comparison to the eventual Republican nominee.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
9. Humans and Monkeys have DNA that is 99% the same
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:44 PM
Oct 2015

That 93% might lead to some similarities between Bernie and Hillary, but its the other 7% that shows the stark contrast between the two.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
2. Maybe because we ARE angry: angry at a rigged system
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:46 PM
Oct 2015

that's going to give us another corporate Democrat who won't do jack squat to help the working and middle classes, while simultaneously killing off our kids in yet another unnecessary war.

Aren't we supposed to be angry about that?

SleeplessinSoCal

(8,998 posts)
7. no maybe about it. anger is essential for revolution. catch 22 though.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:31 PM
Oct 2015

It's hard voting based on anger. And when questions are answered with censorship and blocking, it doesn't reflect well on the candidate. That's Bernie & Hillary in my case.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. Yet another tiresome attack on Sanders's supporters.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:49 PM
Oct 2015

apparently because they can't find a reason to directly attack Bernie, because of
his consistency, integrity and the fact that he's clearly the people's candidate, if
you look at who he will be "beholding to" (i.e. who financed his campaign). Bernie's
broad appeal as a genuine "FDR" kind of guy is difficult to find fault with, so his
supporters "misdeeds" have become the attack-of-choice for Hillary peeps.

no big surprise really, and not a new thing; as it's been going on pretty much
since Bernie started his campaign.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. No kidding! .. and constantly attacking Bernie supporters will surely "win us over"
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 06:00 PM
Oct 2015

rather than discussing and contrasting Bernie v. Hillary positions on issues that
voters actually care about.

Now that Biden's out of the race, and that Bernie has graciously "taken Hillary
off the email hook", I expect the attacks to get ever worse, because they do NOT
want to discuss real issues , or compare donor bases, or anything else because it's
downright embarrassing for them, unless it's gun control of course.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
5. OP, Politicusa, in my view, like every perceived as liberal site has been taken over
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:50 PM
Oct 2015

by what I like to call snakelike stealth libertarians running around as third way progressive lying sacks of s---. This site, should rename itself, ThirdWayLeftLibertarian.com But with certain nuances from the so called Democratic Party leaders and Hillary herself, the Democratic party like the Republican party is now libertarian.

OP
It is obviously more effort to divide the Democratic vote or at least have large enough numbers of us throw up our hands, sob and weep and rent our garments and stay home.






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