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Hey!!

Welcome back

in 25 years due to ocean rise it will be gone anyway

paid into the national kitty -- and resents the $1.

Bravenak's back!

But yes, if you dont care about dead Women in back alleys, then by all fucking means please do refuse to vote if Hillary is the candidate.

pout, stay home, not vote.

Ya just wake up one morning and your hair is all gray and stuff, there is a little more flab around the butt, and your knees don't work as well. I'm starting to agree with Dolly Parton......"if it sags, bags, or flabs, fix it!"

But the knees, the back, they ain't what they used to be. LOL.

Goddess. I am tired of hearing how much I don't give a shit.

I do.

Stop.

Please.

You want to tell me I'm wrong?

Go for it. I'll listen. Hell, I might even change my mind.

But don't you dare tell me I don't care. I've spent every moment I've had learning and understanding so I can be part of the solution as soon as I realized what a shitty place this world can be.

Stop.

Just sayin'....no one in the Sanders camp has clue one about how to make up huge polling deficits in states past NH. And fighting on the internet will not net you any real world votes. Neither will implying there's a huge conspiracy afoot to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination.

It's his to lose, and he only got into this originally to keep Hillary honest.

we all love to see the plan

proclaim that letting the country crash and burn would be for the best.The People™ would finally wake up and the revolution would come,of course they all think their side would emerge victorious.

They mean me and my family.

Yeah Ill have to pass on that revolution, the cost of admission is way to high for me and mine.

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I'm a Bernie supporter. And I'd like to see him win the nomination and the WH. And if he gets the nomination, I'd expect and demand that every Democrat, whether they supported Clinton or O'Malley work their asses off to get him elected.

But if he doesn't get the nomination and Clinton does, I also expect and will demand that every Democrat support her. Why, because while Clinton might give me the reforms I want in the short run, as a long game, her election gets me closer to what I want than the election of a repub.

I've said it several times: if a repub is elected, CU is preserved and extended. Suppression of voting rights is extended and validated by the courts. A pathway to citizenship is put on hold for years, meaning a large number of immigrants don't get the vote.
All of those things means that we take a step backwards in using the power of the electorate to reverse things, possibly by a generation. On the other hand, if Clinton gets a chance to replace a repub on the Court, CU could be overturned and certainly limited. Voting rights can be protected and expanded. Immigrants could get the vote sooner rather than later. ANd all of those things will help get to where Bernie wants the country to get to, even if ends up not being the guy to take us there.

the revolution after all.

Oh wait, it is just a DanTex OP.

Nm.

Tut Tut.

Gin is the only way to make a proper Martini.

Yeah, you walk into a trendy bar, and "martini" these days is assumed to be vodka. But you're right! It's really supposed to be gin! And don't get me started about apple martinis and coffee martinis and all that.

We need a revolution!

Any bar that 'assumes' Martinis are supposed to be made with vodka is likely a trendy, hipster laden, shit hole.

Cheers.

and not knowing the top shelf liquor brands.

I'm a hard working but poorly paid 63 year old, worried about SS, and I resent the hell out of your stupid stereotype and assumptions in that OP.

vote for the one who is liberal on social issues. Non "corporate shills" are too idealistic to win.

Even Bernie himself is not going to be in favor of this shit. He's a Senator, so he knows politics.

Particularly the ones who want to let the GOP win instead of supporting Hillary in the general.

Because every single one that I know is an ass-busting member of the middle or lower class who is sick of getting fucked over. We live week to week, some cant even afford Obamacare, and my fucking car was built when you were still in grade school.

This line of attack is really insulting. Not to mention just flat out fucked up wrong. Stop shitting on people and get a fucking clue.

I have a good further sacrifice: As a 'secondary" wage earner, because of the way the tax code is structured and fewer and fewer benefits to offset its hit, right now I take home only about 30% less than a primary male wage earner making the same amount will.

I'm pretty sure if we get out of their way, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker Paul Ryan (?) could and would improve on that 30%. After all, somebody's got to make up for additional tax cuts for the wealthy. Plus, since I'm still working instead of bringing my husband his martini after a hard day's fishing, obviously the incentive to keep me at home is not as high as the GOP feels it should be in a healthy, moral, family-oriented nation.

If anyone feels I need to sacrifice more, though, maybe I'll just claim PTSD from a lifetime of hits. BTW, how come no one bothered to accuse all us Corporatist Democrat women of Stockholm Syndrome? Is feckless stupidity supposed to be our normal state? I demand my right to equality of insulting!

with your support of Hillary over Bernie?

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(average incomes over $80k a year) and may be why at least some of his policies benefit that group in particular.

Not sure how they're earning over $80K a year.

But, they might not be polled as often since most have never voted before. They don't fit the "likely voter" mold.

with no corresponding plan for early childhood ed or K-12. By age 18, many poor kids are not in a position to qualify for college due to the gross inequities in K-12 schools and other hazards of growing up poor in America. Those who currently do not qualify for financial aid are the upper middle class, so it is they who will most benefit. His transaction fee includes taxation on union pension funds and teacher and public employee retirement funds, non-profit institutions that are among the biggest traders on Wall Street. They are taxed to ensure the children of the upper 10 percent don't have to suffer the horror of working 10 hours a week to contribute to their own education.

That plan benefits his support base, people in the upper 20 percent who falsely claim to be as exploited as the indigent and the working poor but who in fact have more than 99 percent of those on the planet and 80-98% of Americans.

Let me start with one Berniebro: me - I'm one of 5 kids brought up by a single mom. We were dirt poor and I worked my way through my education. My son, now out of school, had it a little easier because I had the fortune of good employment. I don't financially benefit in any way from what Bernie is proposing.

The OP twisted some demographic data into a bizarre smear, that's as disgusting as it is false. I get it, white males suck (unless they support Hillary), but most Bernie supporters, of all stripes, are about equality and are ready to make personal sacrifices to make this country a better place for everyone. Is it your contention that if Bernie dropped free college tuition all his white male supporters would abandon him?

Anyone who believes Bernie's motive for that proposal is to "give another freebie to millionaires" is a moron. BTW do you believe the europeans subsidize college to benefit the upper class?

Fuck this shit.

Not sure why not wanting to elect someone so evasive and dissembling, who has a long track record of what I don't want in a pResident means I'm a hipster with a martini.

Unabashed Hillary bashers from earlier primaries are now gung-ho Hillary supporters who take any hint of criticism of Hillary personally.

Former freeper who announces that he's going to be working for Bernie (yeah, right), then later makes an OP that rubs Bernie supporters' faces in his unabashed "conversion" to Hillary.

FOX News regular who speaks out of both sides of his mouth but somehow gains an audience here.

I think I need a martini.
Or two. Or three.

No kidding.