2016 Postmortem

Uncle Joe

(58,272 posts) Wed Oct 21, 2015, 10:08 PM Oct 2015

Joe Biden Took Bernie Sanders’ Side On College Tuition

WASHINGTON — Perhaps the key policy distinction between Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination is the issue of free college tuition. And when Vice President Biden ended the speculation he might enter the race with a hard no in the White House Rose Garden Wednesday, he appeared to throw his support behind the Sanders side of the argument.

Sanders wants to raise billions from a tax on Wall Street and use it to make public colleges and universities tuition-free for anyone who can get in. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has rejected that idea as untenable, favoring instead what she calls “debt-free college” — expanded work-study programs and federal grants that would allow students who can’t afford public college to get more free money to help and more opportunities to earn the rest.

In his Rose Garden speech, Biden backed the Sanders side of the argument.

“We need to commit. We are fighting for 14 years — we need to commit to 16 years of free public education for all of our children,” Biden said. “We all know that 12 years of public education is not enough. As a nation, let’s make the same commitment to a college education today that we made to a high school education 100 years ago.”

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/joe-biden-took-bernie-sanderss-side-on-college-tuition#.gkb88zNLz

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Joe Biden Took Bernie Sanders’ Side On College Tuition (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2015 OP

2 years of College BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #1

Biden is a big part of the reason why an entire generation has no escape from crushing debt Maven Oct 2015 #2

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)

1. 2 years of College

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 11:23 PM

Oct 2015

Pre School
kindergarten
1-12
2 years of College

You really want to spend 14K a year tuition for 4 years to send some rich kid to University of California
where it takes +4.0 grade point average just to be excepted. And tuition is only 20% of the cost of going to college unless you are a commuter living at home. Housing costs would also rise accordingly.

Germany began guaranteeing in the 1970s that every graduate of a Gymnasium — the country's most academically rigorous type of high school — would be entitled to a place in a university paid for entirely by the state, The New York Times reported.

By the age of 12, only the top 25% of German grammer school academic achievers are allowed to go to a 6 year Gymnasium Schools (college preparatory) that qualify for free college.

Maven

(10,533 posts)

2. Biden is a big part of the reason why an entire generation has no escape from crushing debt