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riversedge

(69,727 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 09:42 AM Oct 2015

Joe Biden Ran in the Invisible Primary, and Lost to Hillary Clinton



Joe Biden Ran in the Invisible Primary, and Lost to Hillary Clinton

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/upshot/joe-bidens-decision-and-hillary-clintons-victory.html?_r=1
OCT. 21, 2015


Nate Cohn



..............Mr. Biden’s decision was informed by personal considerations, as he said Wednesday in bowing out, not just the cold calculus of building a national campaign. But the reality was that he would have struggled for the same reason that other traditional, establishment-friendly candidates decided not to run. The support from party operatives, donors and officials wasn’t quite there. The party had already decided, for Mrs. Clinton.


That’s why there was no grand movement to “draft” Mr. Biden into the race, even after the F.B.I. began its investigation of Mrs. Clinton’s emails, and even after Mr. Biden began to reconsider a presidential run. My colleagues Carl Hulse and Jason Horowitz reported that many of Mr. Biden’s likeliest allies were discouraging him. So were prominent public figures from Team Obama, like David Axelrod. There were few or no defections from Mrs. Clinton’s camp.

What has happened over the last few months is exactly what one would anticipate in a “Party Decides” framework. As my colleague Brendan Nyhan wrote in August, Mr. Biden was already running for president in the invisible primary. Like most candidates who test the waters, he didn’t find enough support to justify entering the race.


What would happen among all Democratic voters if Mr. Biden…


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..............A united coalition of moderate, nonwhite and older voters represents a clear majority of the Democratic primary electorate. Mrs. Clinton took a commanding lead of 57 percent to 31 percent over Mr. Sanders in an average of seven September surveys that removed Mr. Biden from the equation. Similarly, an Upshot model from earlier this year suggested that Mrs. Clinton would have defeated Mr. Obama, 62 to 38 percent, in 2008 if black voters had voted like demographically similar nonblack voters (like Hispanic voters)....................
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Joe Biden Ran in the Invisible Primary, and Lost to Hillary Clinton (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2015 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #1
Well if he was running , the fact escaped me. peace13 Oct 2015 #2
His failure to enter the race and compete early is what stopped him Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #3
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
2. Well if he was running , the fact escaped me.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:01 AM
Oct 2015

We each write the story so whatever makes you feel good, go with that. Just promise me that if Hillary does not win the nomination, that she steps down like the respected woman that she is. May there be no repeat of the last debacle!

Keep on keeping on!

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. His failure to enter the race and compete early is what stopped him
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 11:16 AM
Oct 2015

In the bad days of summer when the media turned on Clinton, he would have been competative. He waited too long.

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