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Watching the republicans on the Benghazi hearings, guess what, THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE ENEMY!!! (Original Post) still_one Oct 2015 OP
I think so. ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #1
Well, they treat us like we're the enemy, so I guess we have a reason to be Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #3
I'm cautious ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #8
Wish I had your luxury. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #11
Oh yes, it's extremely luxurious ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #13
Read me wrong. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #14
I apologise ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #15
No prob. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #17
Back at ya. ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #22
I am a former dem county chair in a very red area. One of my proudest moments dembotoz Oct 2015 #37
I often handed ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #41
thank you for your courage and please be careful dembotoz Oct 2015 #42
Thank you - ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #43
No, we just need to move to a "warm, purple space". jeff47 Oct 2015 #2
I wish it weren't so, but the Repubs. have shown since Day 1 of Bill Clinton's presidency, and Cal33 Oct 2015 #4
This is an entirely different republican party than Eisenhower republicans still_one Oct 2015 #6
Yes, the Neo-Cons joined the Republican Party sometime after Eisenhower, climbed Cal33 Oct 2015 #7
that is a pretty good analysis I think still_one Oct 2015 #9
Yes. Republicans have become far more conservative since the 1970s. Hortensis Oct 2015 #26
Is Hillary really incapable of seeing this? 2naSalit Oct 2015 #29
Sure hope you're right. Hillary did try way back in 1993 to bring about universal health Cal33 Oct 2015 #40
Just perhaps... 2naSalit Oct 2015 #44
I'm voting for Sanders, but if Clinton should win I'd vote for her. O'Malley's okay, Cal33 Oct 2015 #45
Why do they do it? Hillary is at her finest when opposing thre right wing conspiracy. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #5
This is where politics comes in. randome Oct 2015 #10
That's a nice thought, but there's a problem: robbob Oct 2015 #30
Welcome to the warm up. 99Forever Oct 2015 #12
If you think the Tea Party doesn't like Hillary . . . . people Oct 2015 #20
Keep telling yourself that. 99Forever Oct 2015 #23
The misconceptions of what... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #32
They hate america and want to destroy workinclasszero Oct 2015 #16
That's because the MSM is owned and operated by Republicans... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #18
True workinclasszero Oct 2015 #19
True that.. n/t ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #21
It is not only the radical Tea Party but the Republicans in total. gordianot Oct 2015 #24
What Americans are probably not yet getting besides the video-obvious "GOP is the enemy" is . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #25
There is no reason to believe that they will treat any president who is not a Republican Skidmore Oct 2015 #34
The ones on the telly are just the sideshow. The real enemy has so much of our money we jtuck004 Oct 2015 #27
Bra-freaking-vo! hifiguy Oct 2015 #36
Read my tagline world wide wally Oct 2015 #28
You're being distracted by the committee, still_one Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #31
YUP! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #33
Big Money is also the enemy. hifiguy Oct 2015 #35
That is true, and is much more difficult to fight since it is bipartisan still_one Oct 2015 #39
Gowdy, Cummings get heated during Benghazi hearing ... Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #38

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
8. I'm cautious
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015

where I live. For example - I would never put a Democratic sign in my yard. Fortunately, I have numerous liberal friends to help keep me sane. Other than some of the right wing rednecks I love where I live.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
11. Wish I had your luxury.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:59 PM
Oct 2015

The time to keep a low profile is long past, and there are not many Liberals around these parts.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
13. Oh yes, it's extremely luxurious
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:08 PM
Oct 2015

to have to think about what the crazy right wingers might do. It's rather impossible to defend myself from a wheelchair with one side of my body,the dominant side, paralyzed. So you go ahead and think I have a luxury you don't have. I'm so sure you are changing the world with your high profile.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
14. Read me wrong.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

I wasn't criticizing. Our circumstances are very different, and I am happy that you do have a support system that includes politically like minded indivudals.

But, yes, I do hope to make a difference, which is the right choice for me. Wouldn't wish it on anyone else, however.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
15. I apologise
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:18 PM
Oct 2015

It's very frustrating to be so limited when I've always been outspoken and worked for the local Democratic Party. Sorry for taking my frustration out on you.

dembotoz

(16,739 posts)
37. I am a former dem county chair in a very red area. One of my proudest moments
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:57 PM
Oct 2015

was when a member told me he was going to put up his very first yard sign.

this took guts and if i recall he took some flak from his nazi neighbors

i have had county fair booths destroyed, yard signs stolen or vandalized.
my car has been keyed multiple time when i have bumper stickers.
i have had business owners throw me out of their store when they realize who i was.....

and it is getting worse.

fortunately for me i am a big old guy and they do not take out after me.
generally when we canvas we canvas in twos......
welcome to amurica......

my point--yes i have one
kudos to those dems in red areas who stand up...cause sometime it take courage.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
41. I often handed
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 04:26 PM
Oct 2015

out literature outside of the polls and was fortunately paired with a male every time. I'm a 100 lb. 5'1" female so the pairing was helpful. We were often cursed and one of the males threatened.

At the time I was the director of a local museum and the board was not happy with my politics. I was threatened to be fired when I refused to hang a confederate flag on the building for a two day local event. A board member had to hang it. I didn't stay in the job very long.

dembotoz

(16,739 posts)
42. thank you for your courage and please be careful
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 04:40 PM
Oct 2015

read area dems need to take care of themselves and each other

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
4. I wish it weren't so, but the Repubs. have shown since Day 1 of Bill Clinton's presidency, and
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:20 PM
Oct 2015

continued this with Day 1 of Obama's presidency that they are not interested in working
together with the Dems. to make things better for the entire country.

Repubs. are only interested in ruling this country on their own terms -- and
permanently. Their goal is to destroy democracy and change our nation into
a plutocracy. They are already more than half way there. Why should they
compromise anything? Is Hillary really incapable of seeing this?

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
7. Yes, the Neo-Cons joined the Republican Party sometime after Eisenhower, climbed
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:51 PM
Oct 2015

their way up the political power structure, and kicked out the old-timer Republican.
They were smart enough to keep the Republican name so as to retain the votes of
the Repub. masses.

I think the Tea Partiers are now trying to kick out the Neo-Cons, just as the Neo-Cons
had done to the Eisenhower Republicans.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Yes. Republicans have become far more conservative since the 1970s.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:02 PM
Oct 2015
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Note there's no downtrend indicated in this data graph through 2014. From Nate Silver.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
29. Is Hillary really incapable of seeing this?
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:21 PM
Oct 2015

Not in the least... she's been all too painfully aware since she entered the national scene and identified them early on in Bill's first term. She's had a good deal of experience with them at this point and I am quite certain her handling of the situation with aplomb is the end result. There is a certain skill and deftness to helping give them the rope with which to hang themselves... the chickens appear to be coming home to roost.

I've been waiting for this for quite some time.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
40. Sure hope you're right. Hillary did try way back in 1993 to bring about universal health
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

coverage, but was stopped by the Republicans. I don't understand how this works:
The Republicans hate her guts, but the behind-the-scenes, string-pulling corporation heads
are supposed to be supportive of her.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
44. Just perhaps...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:26 PM
Oct 2015

not everything that is said or spread about is the actual truth. Some only focus on what they hope will be seen as major negative factors, even when they aren't. I will vote for the (D) nominee regardless of who that turns out to be on election day, not making up my mind until then and I haven't decided who I vote for in the primaries yet so there is no "siding" with either of the front runners. I think both would make a suitable president and I have admired both for different reasons for a long time so not deciding until deciding day.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
45. I'm voting for Sanders, but if Clinton should win I'd vote for her. O'Malley's okay,
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:56 PM
Oct 2015

too, but I don't think he'd win the Primaries.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
5. Why do they do it? Hillary is at her finest when opposing thre right wing conspiracy.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:40 PM
Oct 2015

They only make her stronger in the public mind when they allow her to defend herself from their machinations. Because the public sees her standing strong and thinks "She can defend me like that, too!"

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. This is where politics comes in.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:55 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, they are the enemy but in the political theater, the only way to defeat your enemy is to show you're above that level of partisanship. Give them space in which to hang themselves. The alternative is more Benghazi-like hearings whereas, after today, they might have a modicum of embarrassment (at least the smart ones) to refrain from such in the future.

You have to admit, the GOP is looking pretty ugly today to some GOPers.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

robbob

(3,514 posts)
30. That's a nice thought, but there's a problem:
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

We can "give them space in which to hang themselves", and in fact, they often do go and "hang themselves", in fact, their bloated, rotting, fly covered corpse can be twisting in the wind for all to see (Donald Trump is the front runner in the GOP primaries??? Seriously???) and the media just pretends that all is fine; "move along folks, nothing to see here...".

When the 1% controlled media gets to decide what is and is not a scandal, it's time for the Democratic party to start making some noise. Sitting back and letting the Republicans make fools of themselves only works if there is someone there to report on it and point it out to John Q Public. The sheer criminality of BushCo* inc. should have sunk the Republican party a long time ago, but except for those people who are willing to take the time to find out about it, few Americans know, because the media refuses to do its job.

Or, more to the point, they ARE doing their job, which seems to be deflecting blame and scandal AWAY from corporate friendly politicians and creating scandals out of thin air (Al Gore's "created the internet" statement?) to keep the masses distracted.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. Welcome to the warm up.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:05 PM
Oct 2015

Aren't you just thrilled at the prospect of 5 or 9 years of this shit?


Let's hear it for the Clinton Continuous Drama Show.

people

(612 posts)
20. If you think the Tea Party doesn't like Hillary . . . .
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:34 PM
Oct 2015

With respect to the "prospect of 5 or 9 years of this shit," you can't really think that these Republicans would be any more fond of a democratic socialist (and I LOVE BERNIE) than they are of Hillary or of an African American president. These republicans are like the brown shirts. They are TOTALLY AWFUL!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Keep telling yourself that.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

It's not don't like Hillary, it's absolutely hate ALL Clintons. And it's not just teabaggers, it's almost alll Republicans.

Oh btw, I know several Republicans that not only support Senator Sanders, but are actively volunteering in the campaign.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
32. The misconceptions of what...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:35 PM
Oct 2015

Democratic Socialism is, I think, can be overcome in the minds of some repub and independent voters.

The all out haterd for Clinton, however, ...well, good luck with that.

The thing I've heard from many republican, independents and even dems is "please, no more Clintons or Bushes"

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. They hate america and want to destroy
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:20 PM
Oct 2015

our government as bad as ISIS does.

And yet the MSM sounds no warnings about the republican threat to freedom in america, go figure.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
18. That's because the MSM is owned and operated by Republicans...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:30 PM
Oct 2015

... for whom malice, mendacity, and the occasional murder, are all in a day's work. And they don't consider a day's work done until they've fucked somebody over.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
24. It is not only the radical Tea Party but the Republicans in total.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

The only questions are to what lengths are they willing to go.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
25. What Americans are probably not yet getting besides the video-obvious "GOP is the enemy" is . . .
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:52 PM
Oct 2015

. . . even if Hillary is nominated, there is little chance either house of Congress will be returned to the Democrats so the clowns that you are seeing today will still be there doing their daily dirt and Hillary will become a figurehead.

But if Bernie is nominated, he alone has the enthusiasm and energy of 75,000,000 millennials behind him who will explode the voting population and consequently likely capture at least one house of Congress for the Democrats, making it possible for Bernie to start working to fix some of our horrible problems.

So think of today's struggle as a PREVIEW of the one that will CONTINUE throughout Hillary's administration if she is elected.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
34. There is no reason to believe that they will treat any president who is not a Republican
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:37 PM
Oct 2015

any differently.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
27. The ones on the telly are just the sideshow. The real enemy has so much of our money we
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:11 PM
Oct 2015

don't even see them.

They are far more of a threat than the little people you are watching will ever be. To both of us.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. Bra-freaking-vo!
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:45 PM
Oct 2015

Truth, truth, truth. And nothing BUT the truth!



Do not be distracted by the meaningless kabuki. The oligarchs and their servants never rest.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
31. You're being distracted by the committee, still_one
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:31 PM
Oct 2015

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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
35. Big Money is also the enemy.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:42 PM
Oct 2015

There can be more than one, and the oligarchs and their willing servants are destroying democracy as quickly as they can. And their servants are not all Repigs.

One must always be sure to see the forest, not merely the trees.

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