2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWatching the republicans on the Benghazi hearings, guess what, THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE ENEMY!!!
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)I live in a very red area and some of them feel and act like the enemy.
Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)cautious.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)where I live. For example - I would never put a Democratic sign in my yard. Fortunately, I have numerous liberal friends to help keep me sane. Other than some of the right wing rednecks I love where I live.
Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)The time to keep a low profile is long past, and there are not many Liberals around these parts.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)to have to think about what the crazy right wingers might do. It's rather impossible to defend myself from a wheelchair with one side of my body,the dominant side, paralyzed. So you go ahead and think I have a luxury you don't have. I'm so sure you are changing the world with your high profile.
Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)I wasn't criticizing. Our circumstances are very different, and I am happy that you do have a support system that includes politically like minded indivudals.
But, yes, I do hope to make a difference, which is the right choice for me. Wouldn't wish it on anyone else, however.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)It's very frustrating to be so limited when I've always been outspoken and worked for the local Democratic Party. Sorry for taking my frustration out on you.
Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)dembotoz
(16,739 posts)was when a member told me he was going to put up his very first yard sign.
this took guts and if i recall he took some flak from his nazi neighbors
i have had county fair booths destroyed, yard signs stolen or vandalized.
my car has been keyed multiple time when i have bumper stickers.
i have had business owners throw me out of their store when they realize who i was.....
and it is getting worse.
fortunately for me i am a big old guy and they do not take out after me.
generally when we canvas we canvas in twos......
welcome to amurica......
my point--yes i have one
kudos to those dems in red areas who stand up...cause sometime it take courage.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)out literature outside of the polls and was fortunately paired with a male every time. I'm a 100 lb. 5'1" female so the pairing was helpful. We were often cursed and one of the males threatened.
At the time I was the director of a local museum and the board was not happy with my politics. I was threatened to be fired when I refused to hang a confederate flag on the building for a two day local event. A board member had to hang it. I didn't stay in the job very long.
dembotoz
(16,739 posts)read area dems need to take care of themselves and each other
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)and I will.
What's sad is most of my family are Republicans.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)continued this with Day 1 of Obama's presidency that they are not interested in working
together with the Dems. to make things better for the entire country.
Repubs. are only interested in ruling this country on their own terms -- and
permanently. Their goal is to destroy democracy and change our nation into
a plutocracy. They are already more than half way there. Why should they
compromise anything? Is Hillary really incapable of seeing this?
still_one
(91,965 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)their way up the political power structure, and kicked out the old-timer Republican.
They were smart enough to keep the Republican name so as to retain the votes of
the Repub. masses.
I think the Tea Partiers are now trying to kick out the Neo-Cons, just as the Neo-Cons
had done to the Eisenhower Republicans.
still_one
(91,965 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Note there's no downtrend indicated in this data graph through 2014. From Nate Silver.
2naSalit
(86,061 posts)Not in the least... she's been all too painfully aware since she entered the national scene and identified them early on in Bill's first term. She's had a good deal of experience with them at this point and I am quite certain her handling of the situation with aplomb is the end result. There is a certain skill and deftness to helping give them the rope with which to hang themselves... the chickens appear to be coming home to roost.
I've been waiting for this for quite some time.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)coverage, but was stopped by the Republicans. I don't understand how this works:
The Republicans hate her guts, but the behind-the-scenes, string-pulling corporation heads
are supposed to be supportive of her.
2naSalit
(86,061 posts)not everything that is said or spread about is the actual truth. Some only focus on what they hope will be seen as major negative factors, even when they aren't. I will vote for the (D) nominee regardless of who that turns out to be on election day, not making up my mind until then and I haven't decided who I vote for in the primaries yet so there is no "siding" with either of the front runners. I think both would make a suitable president and I have admired both for different reasons for a long time so not deciding until deciding day.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)too, but I don't think he'd win the Primaries.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)They only make her stronger in the public mind when they allow her to defend herself from their machinations. Because the public sees her standing strong and thinks "She can defend me like that, too!"
randome
(34,845 posts)Yes, they are the enemy but in the political theater, the only way to defeat your enemy is to show you're above that level of partisanship. Give them space in which to hang themselves. The alternative is more Benghazi-like hearings whereas, after today, they might have a modicum of embarrassment (at least the smart ones) to refrain from such in the future.
You have to admit, the GOP is looking pretty ugly today to some GOPers.
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robbob
(3,514 posts)We can "give them space in which to hang themselves", and in fact, they often do go and "hang themselves", in fact, their bloated, rotting, fly covered corpse can be twisting in the wind for all to see (Donald Trump is the front runner in the GOP primaries??? Seriously???) and the media just pretends that all is fine; "move along folks, nothing to see here...".
When the 1% controlled media gets to decide what is and is not a scandal, it's time for the Democratic party to start making some noise. Sitting back and letting the Republicans make fools of themselves only works if there is someone there to report on it and point it out to John Q Public. The sheer criminality of BushCo* inc. should have sunk the Republican party a long time ago, but except for those people who are willing to take the time to find out about it, few Americans know, because the media refuses to do its job.
Or, more to the point, they ARE doing their job, which seems to be deflecting blame and scandal AWAY from corporate friendly politicians and creating scandals out of thin air (Al Gore's "created the internet" statement?) to keep the masses distracted.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Aren't you just thrilled at the prospect of 5 or 9 years of this shit?
Let's hear it for the Clinton Continuous Drama Show.
people
(612 posts)With respect to the "prospect of 5 or 9 years of this shit," you can't really think that these Republicans would be any more fond of a democratic socialist (and I LOVE BERNIE) than they are of Hillary or of an African American president. These republicans are like the brown shirts. They are TOTALLY AWFUL!
99Forever
(14,524 posts)It's not don't like Hillary, it's absolutely hate ALL Clintons. And it's not just teabaggers, it's almost alll Republicans.
Oh btw, I know several Republicans that not only support Senator Sanders, but are actively volunteering in the campaign.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Democratic Socialism is, I think, can be overcome in the minds of some repub and independent voters.
The all out haterd for Clinton, however, ...well, good luck with that.
The thing I've heard from many republican, independents and even dems is "please, no more Clintons or Bushes"
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)our government as bad as ISIS does.
And yet the MSM sounds no warnings about the republican threat to freedom in america, go figure.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... for whom malice, mendacity, and the occasional murder, are all in a day's work. And they don't consider a day's work done until they've fucked somebody over.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)eom
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)gordianot
(15,226 posts)The only questions are to what lengths are they willing to go.
DrBulldog
(841 posts). . . even if Hillary is nominated, there is little chance either house of Congress will be returned to the Democrats so the clowns that you are seeing today will still be there doing their daily dirt and Hillary will become a figurehead.
But if Bernie is nominated, he alone has the enthusiasm and energy of 75,000,000 millennials behind him who will explode the voting population and consequently likely capture at least one house of Congress for the Democrats, making it possible for Bernie to start working to fix some of our horrible problems.
So think of today's struggle as a PREVIEW of the one that will CONTINUE throughout Hillary's administration if she is elected.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)any differently.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)don't even see them.
They are far more of a threat than the little people you are watching will ever be. To both of us.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Truth, truth, truth. And nothing BUT the truth!
Do not be distracted by the meaningless kabuki. The oligarchs and their servants never rest.
world wide wally
(21,719 posts)Jack Rabbit
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)There can be more than one, and the oligarchs and their willing servants are destroying democracy as quickly as they can. And their servants are not all Repigs.
One must always be sure to see the forest, not merely the trees.