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Roskam, go to hell, and take your racist, sexist party with you, you scumbag (Original Post) still_one Oct 2015 OP
He's nailing her to the wall Prism Oct 2015 #1
I disagree mcar Oct 2015 #2
Agree. I think she's handling him just fine. cwydro Oct 2015 #4
But his points aren't wrong Prism Oct 2015 #5
I would say something about GOP talking points but it would result in a hide. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3
No need. We can all read it. cwydro Oct 2015 #6
Here's an analogy... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #8
It's important to be honest Prism Oct 2015 #9
It's more important not to use GOP talking points./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #10
no he isn't. He is a fucking asshole trying to make shit up. She is answering the questions. When still_one Oct 2015 #7
I'm watching this in real time Prism Oct 2015 #11
so am I, and she is doing great. Keep looking for that bombshell. still_one Oct 2015 #12
I do not think she will give one Prism Oct 2015 #14
On that we kind of agree. I don't think it will particularly change anyones point of view that still_one Oct 2015 #16
I honestly don't know Prism Oct 2015 #17
sure there are. A lot of people are not political junkies, or even follow the news still_one Oct 2015 #19
You seem to be alone in your affection... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #13
You realize I'm not strictly Democrat in this observation? Prism Oct 2015 #15
Conservatives will do what conservatives will do... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #18
"Democrat voters" awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #20
I noticed that too. cwydro Oct 2015 #21
Yup. Good catch AndreaCG Oct 2015 #22
"Democrat voters" is often seen as a 'tell' here on DU. MineralMan Oct 2015 #23
 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
1. He's nailing her to the wall
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:51 PM
Oct 2015

I hate to say it, and I do, but he's slamming her on her evolving stories. And this was always the problem. She should've come clean from the beginning about how stupid this server was. Instead, she dripped as was immediately necessary. And now he's in his glory, going to town on all her evolving stories.

*facepalm*

I think she's going to be our nominee, and god help us, I hope this is the highwater mark for Republicans with her. She handled this stupidly, her responses are stupid, and I don't think anyone believes her. The question is, "Do we care?"

As long as there isn't anything heinous involved, I don't care. As long as there isn't anything heinous involved. I'm not totally convinced there isn't a bombshell somewhere.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
2. I disagree
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:54 PM
Oct 2015

He is a belligerent asshole. He won't let her finish a question and he's back on the emails. He's an idiot.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
5. But his points aren't wrong
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:56 PM
Oct 2015

He got her on the evolving story, that she changed up her admissions based on political developments. That resonates. It's long been recognized as a problem with her.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. No need. We can all read it.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:57 PM
Oct 2015

It makes me sad that anyone on a Democratic board would be on the Republican side, but hey.

I've seen worse here.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Here's an analogy...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

If I was a Republican in the 1940s I wouldn't use AXIS talking points because I didn't like Franklin Roosevelt.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
9. It's important to be honest
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

What are you looking for? Hillary, hooray! Republicans, boo! That's not the reality. Hillary fucked up and, simultaneously, Republicans have tried to exploit that to a shitty degree.

We're not debating whether or not there was an e-mail fuck up (there was), we're debating if it was important to national security or indicative of how Clinton will run the country.

C'mon now. Even Hillary supporters are going, "Ok, maybe not her best decision, but . . ."

still_one

(92,116 posts)
7. no he isn't. He is a fucking asshole trying to make shit up. She is answering the questions. When
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

he wouldn't accept the answer that she had others determining which emails were public and which emails were private. The dipshit didn't like that, so he said why didn't you do it, and then challenges her that she should have done it, instead of a third party.

You are not totally convinced "there isn't a bombshell somewhere?

"You hate to say it".

I doubt it. Most of the threads here today, even from Bernie supporters see what is happening. Even the corporate media

but you see right through all of that

hmmm

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
14. I do not think she will give one
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:06 PM
Oct 2015

She's put up with a bunch of shit, and I think the mainstream media story tomorrow will be, "Hillary deals with 56 hours of horseshit."

It'll benefit her among democrats. Republicans, meanwhile, will have soundbites. I think both parties will have gotten what they wanted.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
16. On that we kind of agree. I don't think it will particularly change anyones point of view that
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:24 PM
Oct 2015

already have a bias, and I admit, I have a bias, but I do try to be objective.

The question is will it influence those that AREN'T liberal, progressive, conservative, or far right. Specifically those who view themselves as moderates? I don't know

As an aside I really shouldn't be watching this. It gets my blood pressure up.

Take care

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
17. I honestly don't know
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:27 PM
Oct 2015

I don't know about you, but I don't know very many people with literally no opinion at this point.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. You seem to be alone in your affection...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:06 PM
Oct 2015
I'm giving my impressions. Sorry if you don't like them.



You seem to be alone in your affection... Maybe after sober and deliberate self reflection you might know why.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
15. You realize I'm not strictly Democrat in this observation?
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

I think, among Democrat voters, Clinton did an ace job.

My noting her laugh has to do with conservatives and independents. Look, I read other points of view. I keep tabs on Republican and Conservative media. I can predict what they'll run with.

They'll run with that laugh. They'll press Scrotrum's testimony to death. Which isn't against her. I've had this on in background all day and listened to just how damn irrelevant all of it is. But in the last hour or so, Clinton faltered, Republicans smelled blood, and there's a lot of fuel for the right-wing fire.

Don't bother about me. Just watch conservatives. They'll bear what I'm saying out. She was a slam dunk for partisan Democrats, but less so for independents. (If I had to put a numerical value on things, I'd say she went 65-35 independents who give a shit)/

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. Conservatives will do what conservatives will do...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:28 PM
Oct 2015

The MSM declared her the winner and that's all that matters...

The Old Gray Lady still has more cache than Drudge and Red State.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
23. "Democrat voters" is often seen as a 'tell' here on DU.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:21 AM
Oct 2015

It may have just been a typo, but Democrats refer to their voters as "Democratic voters" always. That's because "Democratic" is the correct form of the adjective that refers to Democrats. Republicans, however, always use the word "Democrat" as an adjective in that way. They started doing that when Newt Gingrich issued his talking points memo. It's supposed to become a slur, you see, like "liberal" was targeted as a negative term.

You might want to make a note of that for future reference, so you don't appear to be a Republican who is just pretending to be a Democrat.

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