2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"People Trust Bernie Because He Keeps It 100" ~ Holly Walker
The Nightly Show's Holly Walker on Bernie Sanders, "He keeps it 100." #TheNightlyShow #Bernie2016
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That is what people are attracted to. A Politician who is honest, authentic, ethical, doesn't mince words, doesn't worry if someone agrees with him or not, looks for where they can agree.
Not to mention his long, consistent record on all the Major Issues of the past several decades.
And NO ONE stands up to Republicans like Bernie Sanders.
When he reaches across the aisle, and he has, it is to GET SOMETHING from THEM for the PEOPLE.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)He's a Third Way Progressive. Whatever the hell that is.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)explain how totally ludicrous and non factual a fantasy that is.
Other than a desperate search to try to find a way to neutralize the REAL EXISTENCE of the Third Way Corporate Think Tank made up of Wall St Investors, for what reason, I cannot even begin to imagine.
Well that's not being completely honest. I do know the reason but it's so ludicrous it is laughable. And laughter is not what you want to evoke when you're on a serious mission.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)What does that make Elizabeth Warren then? When one of the Third Way Founders, Cohen I believe, decided to go after Progressive Senator Elizabeth Warren in an Op Ed in the WSJ, waving his Wall St Investor finger at her, telling here 'we have had enough of this' (populism, he was talking about}, I assumed that any doubts about the EXISTENCE of the Thrid Way that has infiltrated our party and how dangerous and opposed to Democratic ideals they are were finally put to rest.
On the good side, at least it is acknowledging they exist. But they surely are not progressive. Lol! Unless you believe in Santa Clause.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I got sucked in and it's a mess in there. So many posts that make no sense at all, going round and round in circles, trying so hard to justify the Sanders doesn't care about black people meme.
Yeesh!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)in the middle of winter. I look at both and shudder and go find warmer places to go.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)They do not care about her economics or her lies. They only care if she's president.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)It's really sad. You'd think people that followed politics would care more about policy and the lives of the people. And hell, the democracy we're supposed to be living in.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)Our elected representatives were supposed to be "public servants," who carried out the will of "We The People."
Because of the money in our political system, 99 percent of our politicians are no longer public servants, but can now more realistically be called 'whores'.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)forgive a lot to be on the side of the biggest, toughest, authoritarian. Another reason is they are afraid of fighting for freedoms and liberty. They love the comfort of their denial bubble.
32,000,000 American children living in low income homes with 16 million living in poverty, but that takes a back seat to getting a Goldman-Sachs candidate elected. Goldman-Sachs isn't interested in those living in poverty. It's immoral to side with corporate profits over helping those in poverty.
senz
(11,945 posts)Something's not right there...
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I'm still trying to figure out what that means, even after slogging through that diatribe.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Lol!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)aspirant
(3,533 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Beausoir
(7,540 posts)gun loons who don't work.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)And if he does, then why am I getting a paycheck each week and why do I have a savings account and own a house? And why does he have a D- rating from the NRA?
Hm... that's a head scratcher.
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JRLeft
(7,010 posts)raised in Oakland California. Inner-city I am not a hunter I like target shooting.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I understood you correctly.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)ETA: check out that poster's sig.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Something to keep striving for!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)would be ludicrous. I think you are right since s/he hasn't responded, I'll go with what you said!
senz
(11,945 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)So how does he do that? Is he a magician?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)So let's play. I say, what on earth are you talking about?
You as Mona Lisa Vito: Would you like me to EXPAAIIN?
Me as Vinny: I would LOVE fuh yoo to 'splain!
Lol, I have a weird sense of humor, but your comment cracked me up.
But please, go ahead and explain. Then I'll explain a few things for you! Which you might not find as amusing.
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sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)I got mine, so screw you. Got it!
You're in the wrong forum.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Do I have to use the sarcasm emoji?
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)of the moving of goal posts. Which we have already heard on numerous occasions since May of this year!
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)her followers pretend like she's leading on such issue?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Wherever the weathervane points, it's directing the wind to go in that direction
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)that Bernie is right, which he is of course, they are most likely happening on the advice of her vast army of advisers when it appears that enough people might just abandon her for Bernie.
She can always evolve back again AFTER the election. And most probably will.
Which is why it is imperative that we elect Bernie who will not flip flop on issues as serious as the ones Hillary 'made a mistake' about.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)How could anyone who complained of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" have let themselves be taken in 4 years later by the siren song of Bush and Cheney?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)those policies. She did eg, support all of her husband's policies, the Welfare Reform Bill eg, which was a longtime dream of the right.
And how could she associate herself with David 'blinded by the money' Brock'???
She has some very questionable friends, such as Brock and Kissinger eg.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)She's close with John McCain.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a few years ago.
They get the little people to fight among each other, see Benghazi eg, even rational people are gushing over both sides depending on whether they are a dem or repub. Dems certain Hillary 'won' while Repubs are cheering for their team. Meantime, at the top there are no teams.
And as more and more people realize this, the game isn't as successful as it used to be.
Which is why the largest voting bloc in the country right now are registered Independents. Partisanship is dying, as all sides realize how they were played.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)when she associated with Jackson Stephens and sat on the board of Walmart. The joke among some of the professors at the University of Arkansas at the time was that her sitting on the board "was the best of both worlds-- Hillary could rub shoulders with America's Richest Man, and Sam Walton could get practically a direct line to the Governor".
Spending 6 years on the Walmart board, rubbing shoulders with America's Richest Man....
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Progressive, my ass.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)except for the required few, and even on those she has held very conservative views, on every issue that came up regarding Gay Rights eg. And on the tough on crime and Welfare Reform bills she supported so strongly.
Really, is there anything she has been progressive on until it became apparent she might lose an election unless she changed her mind? She has followed on these issues, never led.
Re Arkansas, that sounds reasonable to assume. She has an affinity for the wealthy there is no doubt about that.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)It wouldn't have looked too good if she had called herself a Republican, especially in those days when the state, except for the Northwest, was solidly Democratic.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Go Bernie!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,107 posts)Thanks for the thread, sabrina.