Her policy positions, along with O'Malley and Sanders, win the day in every single poll.

I know that is difficult to see at du, but every single poll shows exactly that. Polls with respect to policy and polls with respect to her support.

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my handle was 'blurt'. I bequeath it to you.

We've so far checked off, Iraq, which she supported, Libya, which she pushed for, Syria ALMOST checked off, though Obama, thank the gods he was president then and now while the war hawks are pushing to check that one off too.

So what is her position, has it changed, like so many of her other firm stands on other issues?

Can we trust someone who changes their minds on important issues only AFTER it is politically safe to do so and others have done the heavy lifting, see Marriage Equality, that they actually HAVE changed their minds? She was very firm on the sanctity of marriage eg, just two years ago. Yes, I know, evolving is good etc.

But when someone holds such, religious views for so long, then plans to run for public office on a Dem platform, THEN changes their mind on those views, do you see why people are skeptical?

Bernie otoh, has been consistent on equal rights for all Americans.

I don't buy that for a second. Simply because it isn't true. You claim Sanders is a leader? If he fought along side of Kennedy, Obama, Hillary, and Biden during immigration reform, and had the leadership to sway, well over twenty million people currently living underground would be citizens today. Why did he team up with the most vile of republicans? Because of visa's. After he helped republicans block their pathway to citizenship did they then drop their push for increasing visa's out of respect for the Bern?

With that, I still think Sanders is excellent. Fact is your claim is completely bogus. I notice many people around here have been using similar rhetoric lately. Rhetoric as you have that isn't backed up in reality.

You simply see what you want to.

Additionally, the positions Hillary holds, as well as O'Malley and Sanders, are the positions Americans want. It is proven in poll after poll.

I'm glad she held her own. I just think the notion that it's now GAME OVER is silly.

Sure, Bernie on paper is better because of Wall Street.

Neither will get much of anything done until the elections that were basically stolen, by teapartiers, are repaired by getting rid of gerrymandering.

But they can both PREVENT the death and destruction the cons have in store for us.

votes which are all on the record, on our terrble, racist Foreign Policies. He's better on Equal Rights, Marriage Equality eg, and hasn't had to change his mind constantly, or apologize for mistakes, see votes on Iraq, see her support for the awful Welfare Reform Bill, for DOMA and so many more.

She held her own against a bunch of Koch funded politicians however for many of us Democrats who opposed the War in Iraq, AND the rest of the wars listed in the PNAC such as Libya,Syria eg, the hearings highlighted one thing, both she and they were all on board with the Invasion of that African Nation which has left the country looking like something from Mad Max for the innocent victims.

BenGhazi was merely nit-picking over four of the tens of thousands of tragic deaths, of men women and children that resulted from that ill-conceived invasion.

Or has the Left suddenly joined the Right on these disastrous Foreign Adventures?

Count me out.

I want hearings on Iraq, and Dems need to start stepping up and doing something about the war criminals who started all this.

I want hearings on Libya, why we went there, why we were told it was a humanitarian mission when it was nothing of the kind.

But maybe I wandered into the wrong forum, because at one time, DU was not cheerleading for neocon wars. We seemed to care about ALL the victims, or so we said.

administration accountable?

You're saying you are now a supporter of the PNAC, Ledeen, Wolfowitz, Condi, Cheney et al?

This is what I want to know. Was the opposition here REAL or not?

You are wasting your time with your question, you have NO idea who you are asking that of

So can you please answer my question?

Wait, I think we have done this before, never mind

I will be working for and then supporting the Democratic Nominee, Bernie Sanders, in the GE.

I find your questioning of my 'loyalty' to be totally undemocratic, sort of McCarthyish in fact.

However I chose to answer not because of your offensive 'show me your papers' routine, but because I am proud of the candidate I support for whom I never need to make excuses, or refuse to answer questions about.

I can't imagine interrogating voters regarding who they are going to vote 'or else'!

But them I have always been a believer in democracy never to be superceded by political opportunism.

why people who will NOT support the party, are here?

Inquiring minds wanna know.

If you are unable to say you are going to vote for the Democratic candidate, whoever that is, then so be it.

I will because I know the GOP wants to punish and possibly KILL Women who have sex without their permission.

part of your previous 'interrogation'.

It is thoroughly despicable.

You need to read the rules of this site.

I understand you want to force people to support your candidate.

Can't have much faith in your choice of candidate if you feel the need to FORCE people to vote for her. Which is why, of course, Bernie will be the winner.

I have never felt that need to force anyone to support him. All I do is tell them about him, show them his record and mostly they are sold or they are very interested.

I can't imagine saying 'listen I need to know that you will be voting for Bernie ... or else'. Just incomprehensible and most definitely NOT necessary anyhow.

It isn't one thing. It is many things

But I get that people are risk adverse and will settle for a sure thing, in their minds.

I want to live my life like Ingrid did

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not sure of your point there.

But most Democrats can best a bucket of turds and really that's all the pukes on that committee are. Didn't change my mind a bit on the policy and character issues I have with her.

Most of America was working all day and many don't even know what Benghazi is/is about, nor do they care.

Just because she didn't crash and burn it doesn't mean she's now more palatable. It's the same Hillary who walked into the hearing as the one who walked out. The same Hillary with the same baggage.

Who didn't know Hillary is smart? You don't become a U.S. Senator or a SOS by being a stupid person, so all the hullabaloo is hyperbole - make it all seem more impressive than it really was. She didn't lose her temper - but she was pissed off. Big whoop. That doesn't qualify her to be president.

and that's quite a reflection on the ones who think and post that.

can be when reality doesn't fit their narrative.

There are still primary elections and a convention to come. As for how many saw her, not all that many. However, about 22 million people or more saw the major network news coverage last evening on their TVs. All of those news programs included clips from the hearings and identified her as calm, cool and the victor in that hearing. I saw all three network news broadcasts. An additional few million will have seen clips and analysis on the various cable news outlets.

Policy? Well, given the current polling numbers, she's doing OK with a majority of Democratic voters on that. Character? Well, that's what she showed yesterday. Will she be elected? Odds are good that she will. But that's still not certain. I think she probably gained some new support yesterday, though.

There's still a long road ahead. One thing's certain: The Republicans showed their collective asses in that hearing. So, whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee is more likely to be elected than the day before. That's a good thing.

I'll be supporting the Democratic nominee following the convention. How about you?

I thought she did herself a lot of good yesterday, and even came up with some cool clips to use in campaign ads. But, then, I already think she's odds-on to win the primaries and general election. But I wouldn't say she's a lock for the office. Too much time ahead to do that. Ask me again on March 2, 2017. I'll have something different to say, I suspect, then.

What people say on DU is pretty irrelevant, really, in terms of actual outcomes. None of us has an infallible crystal ball. I've seen a wide range of predictions here, mostly by people who don't seem to really have much information to go on. There are also people on DU who have been following election politics for decades. I listen to them more.

I think you and everyone else on DU should support the candidate of your choice in the primaries. In fact, I strongly encourage that. We may have different favorites right now, but after the convention, I'm sure we'll all come together to back the Democratic nominee. I know I'll be here doing that, along with encouraging GOTV activism.

Let's try to keep it real.

They did help her at that hearing. No question about it, but she's been ahead all along. I expect Clinton to get the nomination and win the general election, myself, but I'm not calling her the President yet, and neither is anyone else. Some people are projecting the result to be what they want it to be, but that's not the same thing at all.

Clinton survived an ill conceived, ham handed inquisition by a bunch of functional morons, and her supporters at du, to a person, declared that the race is now over because of her performance. That's what the op said, and it's the truth.

Stop running up the board with Benghazi and HRC.

All they got out of it was a big bunch of fail, and they proved themselves to be incompetent loud liars with no interest in Benghazi.

Just character assassination, fabricating quotes she didn't say, and pushing speculative conspiracy theories about what an "evil person" she is.

Anybody watching or seeing clips understood "Strawman Hillary" was nothing like the real person testifying. Just as Eastwood's "empty chair Obama" was a fabrication of the GOP noise machine.

I know I am in the minority here but IMHO adopting GOP "Strawman HRC" and GOP manufactured "character issues" is a non-starter when it comes to influencing undecided caucus and primary voters to stand up for Bernie.

I also feel there are lots of real-world HRC supporters who are persuadable. Demonizing HRC or mimicking Republican character assassination will alienate them instantly.

Personally it is enough for me to talk up Bernie and contrast policy differences. I say she is too conservative for me. I point to Bernie's record and his straighttalking integrity.

Eyes on the prize.

I especially loved this.

after he won the first debate, received tens of thousands of donations from ordinary people raising over $3,000,000 that night.

And another $3,000,000 was raised in 24 hours after Hillary's David Brock-run Super Pac attempted to plant smears in the media and got caught spending all the Dark Money trying to do so.

Money in Politics is the top issue for 80% of Americans as it should be.

after yesterday's hearing. I've seen you confuse personal donations with corporate PAC donations before because of a misunderstand of how Open Secrets reports personal donations versus corporate donations.

For either Bernie or Hillary to win they would need the others supporters and the Obama voters to come out and vote.
At this point in the campaign for the WH, a relatively few members of the potential ge voters watched the debate or the hearing. What these events are doing now are building support. It's not a done deal for anyone.
I will say after Bernie's debate performance, as an HRC supporter he did address some of my concerns favorably. If HRC doesn't get the nomination I won't pout. Bernie has enough chops to hold his own in a debate with whoever the GOP picks.
After Hillary's hearing performance, it just adds to my conviction she will fight the GOP with everything she has to win.
These are 2 people who want to be president.

I don't hate her or anybody, but I'm being honest.

...are going to enjoy watching it be repeated ad ausim for next 5 years should Hillary end up in the WH. Think of it as a preview of what's coming.

Oh, those silly issues the little people want addressed?

No time for them, Hillary has buckets of turds to slay.

I shudder to think what RoveCo and KochBro are cooking up for Bernie. Am surprised at the naïveté about the right-wing lie machine I see displayed here sometimes.

... I understand why Obama tried to work with the GOP during his first term. He actually BELIEVES in good governance. And he hoped that at the end of the day, the rational Republicans would step up.

They did not. They folded. And the Tea Party ate the few sane Republicans that existed.

So now ... almost every GOP representative is a total and complete nut job.

Hillary has spent 20+ years with those same nut jobs trying to "get her". And they've failed over and over.

She's going to fight them. They hate her. She hates them right back.

I like Bernie, I want him in a position of influence.

But I want Hillary standing toe to toe fighting these maniacs. And that's what we saw yesterday.

I remember it all, starting with the Arkansas Project. The lying demonizing assholes come and go, and HRC is still standing.

... she was killing them.

Back during the ACA fight, Obama did a day long meeting with GOP members and Dem members, but Obama ran the Dem side. And he killed them, over and over.

Hillary did that PLUS yesterday.

Yeah I remember Obama taking Paul Ryan apart.

Her performance demonstrated her character. That it doesn't conform with your preexisting views of her is something for you to think about.

Her policies are posted on her website. It appears to me that very few of her detractors have bothered to read them, since their claims so often diverge completely from what she has actually proposed. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
My hope is that voters will take this opportunity to inform themselves rather than repeating tired internet memes.

Where's the "doesn't conform" part?

No reason to vote right,the Benghazi Committee has selected Hillary Clinton as President.