people dig up random facebook comments and present them as proof that the union didn't really endorse her.

It happens with every union endorsement of Hillary.

Even Jane Goodall FFS.

It's AFSCME Facebook page and there are hundreds of them. Not sure where you are looking.

Do they have to be members to post a comment?

That's what I mean by random.

It is no different than any public Facebook page.
I do happen to be a member and shop steward. I don't agree. I said say on their Facebook page.

It has nothing to do with my support in the general. This is not the general, I will therefore advocate for my canidiate.
While so many here want to make it personal, I do not.
I think Bernie is the better choice. That will never change. I will still support HRC if she is the general election candidate.

I quit giving to PEOPLE a few years ago.

http://www.afscme.org/members/afscme-people

Fighting for Candidates Who Will Fight for Us
For public employees, the people we elect determine the quality of our lives and our livelihood. Our wages, benefits, working conditions, health and safety, and even whether we have jobs at all, are in the hands of officials who influence our future. Unless, that is, we hold them accountable. Our activism in politics is incredibly important.

Through PEOPLE we help elect candidates who stand for what matters to AFSCME members:

Strong contracts
No contracting out
Affordable health care
Retirement security
No cuts to vital public services
Politics is part of AFSCME's DNA. Federal election law and some state laws prohibit using dues for campaign contributions and other political activities. AFSCME PEOPLE enables our union to be strong politically and help enact legislative programs that protect our jobs.

....Just as there are some nurses that dislike Hillary...
....Just as there are some teachers that dislike Hillary....

On an individual basis, they may chose not to vote for her, but they do not represent the entirety of the union to which they belong. They can post their issues on the Union Web site...means diddly squat to the desires of the majority.

The online charm school.

troll like behavior

should refrain from commenting on the endorsement. Sadly, that is not what is happening. DUers should not draw any conclusions about what the rank-and-file in that union think from the comments on that page. Unless someone states that they are a member, I'd simply disregard their comment.

I commented to that effect, myself, just to see if anyone could comment there. My comment was posted immediately.

Such Facebook pages are useless in measuring actual member opinion.

Wasn't another poster big on this? We should check their status.

As Hillary Clinton's lead in the polls grows I expect the attacks on her and her supporters to become more unhinged and grow exponentially. The suggestion embodied in the seminal post that no can like a candidate who is polling in the 60% range in Democratic national primary polls is patently absurd.

It can't possibly be because people would rather vote for Hillary Clinton.

you know, the way the John Lewis endorsement of Hillary was handled.

Sid

You would have thought they learned their lesson that spamming all the post debate polls signified nothing.

I like how everyone assumes every union member is a liberal and/or a Democrat. "The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) is the largest trade union of public employees in the United States."

State, county, and municipal employees are just as varied in their political, apolitical, and apathetic about politics stances as any other American (until it's about their union wages).

The idea that union membership is limited to "radical, militant, commie, pinko, liberal, leftist," Democrats only, is a leftover from the anti-union reagan campaigns (and the many that preceded those).

The freaking "right-to-work" (for less and less) laws opened the door to a lot of anti-union, non-dues-paying union members doing to their union what repubs want to do (and have successfully done) to our government; "... reduce it to the size where <they> can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."


eta: added quotes to "radical, militant, commie, pinko, liberal, leftist," so people wouldn't think I was using those as pejoratives and recognize them as the r/w bs that they are.

Anybody can post a comment
Doesn't mean what you say it does

their support of Hillary."

Hmmm....I wonder if that person posts on DU. Did he mention anything about Stockholm Syndrome?

It's kind of funny how I post an article now and all the Hillary supporters go into freak out mode lol Hey, I just thought it was rather interesting is all. From the way it looks though, and obviously one does get this feeling by looking at the posts, it would appear that the unions members aren't too happy. That's all.

I do find this rather interesting however. Hmmm.

Now some of those comments on Facebook certainly meet that threshold, did you read them?

the rank and file should have known that the final decision, once Biden decided not to run, would have gone to Hillary. It was always going to be a toss up between Hillary and Biden, if the Union was all so worked up about Bernie, he would already have received their endorsement.

Just because the bought and paid for Union leader has endorsed Hillary, it doesn't mean all the members can't vote for Bernie. It sure sounds like they're pissed off on their FB page! They don't want Hillary.

It's obvious what's going on, but Bernie has the votes of the 99%. Last time I checked, 99% is more than 1%.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

We still have 1 person, 1 vote! The workers want Bernie and they outnumber the bought and paid for leaders. We will win, 1%ers.

That's all ya got? Some guys in the union complain when most of the union were for it?

Meaning I think you'll be seeing a lot of rogue actions. Withholding member funds dealing with elections. A lot of sore feelings and more importantly a divided Union even after this mess is over.

I kept it nice.

Clinton represents the banks and businesses on Wall Street. They are against unions. I don't see how Clinton can satisfy both the businesses AND the unions at the same time.

and it's on Social Media so it's an accurate barometer, right?

Generally speaking on facebook, one has more likes than comments. Most people will like something than comment. It's always been that way. Now go add up all the likes on the comments made saying how they disagree and you'll see there's a lot more likes there combined than what the original post has.

Did you forget they co-hosted the last debates?

I just commented, and I have no connection to the AFSCME. It's something to be aware of when reading comments on pages like this one. The comments may not reflect the opinions of people who are members of that union.

ETA: My comment there was not about the endorsement. As a non-member, I shouldn't voice my opinion on that page. I simply posted that anyone could post and that AFSCME members should state their membership when commenting, so people could tell the difference.