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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:43 AM Oct 2015

Mika Brzezinski slams Hillary for playing sexism card on Morning Joe

So, this happened this morning on Morning Joe on MSNBC.

"I know sexism. Hillary Clinton knows sexism. She should know better!"
She goes on to call the whole thing "pathetic".
Ouch!


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Mika Brzezinski slams Hillary for playing sexism card on Morning Joe (Original Post) pinebox Oct 2015 OP
Why do you people keep watching that garbage bigdarryl Oct 2015 #1
I do? pinebox Oct 2015 #3
"you people"?!? oh boy... berni_mccoy Oct 2015 #5
What is wrong with the phrase "you people" being used in this manner? nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #47
RW garbage in, RW garbage out at DU, lately. Sad. If Morning Joe is all you got, please proceed! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #78
Mika, the "women should know their value" Mika? leftofcool Oct 2015 #2
erm pinebox Oct 2015 #4
Nothing except she is a hypocrite! leftofcool Oct 2015 #7
Uhhh pinebox Oct 2015 #9
Well, she's a woman who has gone off the Corporate Script apparently and echoed the views of many sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #117
Joe is a sexist asshole that sits next to her every single week day. boston bean Oct 2015 #6
I wonder pinebox Oct 2015 #12
probably not, cause in this case she is defending sexism. nt boston bean Oct 2015 #15
Uhhh pinebox Oct 2015 #17
Saying that something isn't sexist isn't defending sexism. Gore1FL Oct 2015 #80
Explain how it was sexism. Mika is a female that recognizes that cries of sexism "the gender rhett o rick Oct 2015 #116
You don't find it a bit hypocritical? leftofcool Oct 2015 #18
Do you understand how insane your argument is? pinebox Oct 2015 #20
Hey if you want to side with the tea party, go ahead leftofcool Oct 2015 #21
Who's siding with the tea party? pinebox Oct 2015 #24
You do know that Mika and Joe both are tea party people, right? leftofcool Oct 2015 #27
Mika is a tea part supporter? pinebox Oct 2015 #49
All I know is she's a woman and she is saying what nearly every woman I know has said about sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #118
Ahh, Bernie fans rediscovering their love for mainstream media! DanTex Oct 2015 #8
Oh? pinebox Oct 2015 #11
You gotta admit, it's pretty funny just weeks after all the conspiracy theories... DanTex Oct 2015 #13
I've seen it from both sides pinebox Oct 2015 #14
Don't be so bashful, take some credit! DanTex Oct 2015 #25
Sure I've done it pinebox Oct 2015 #26
Forwarded conspiracy theories and poll trutherism? Umm, no I haven't. DanTex Oct 2015 #31
Dan pinebox Oct 2015 #34
Glad you find it funny. So do I. That was my point, in fact. DanTex Oct 2015 #39
It's not something that matters? pinebox Oct 2015 #41
I'm posting about the hot-and-cold romance between Bernie fans and the MSM. It's funny! DanTex Oct 2015 #43
Touche! pinebox Oct 2015 #65
He CAN NOT have Katy! Quackers Oct 2015 #79
No, she doesn't leftofcool Oct 2015 #32
Busted! leftofcool Oct 2015 #29
Classy! Dawgs Oct 2015 #37
Busted? pinebox Oct 2015 #40
No hillary supporter whines as much as you do. LOL. NT Logical Oct 2015 #85
I'm laughing, not whining. DanTex Oct 2015 #86
No, you are whining. Poor hillary, so mistreated. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #91
I'm laughing: Bernie fans, one day the MSM is part of an evil conspiracy, next day, they love it! DanTex Oct 2015 #92
You make up a lot of stuff i notice. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #95
Yes, this is the MSM and don't the oligarchs own it? treestar Oct 2015 #102
Mika doesn't speak for Corp-Media that not only loves HRC but are among her largest rhett o rick Oct 2015 #115
Her staff made her say that? bahrbearian Oct 2015 #10
Ok. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #16
WTF are berniebros now siding with teapublicans over democrats? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #19
It is becoming a pattern here. leftofcool Oct 2015 #22
LMFAO! pinebox Oct 2015 #23
I don't get my info from republican talk shows workinclasszero Oct 2015 #28
Really? pinebox Oct 2015 #38
Morning Joe aint rethuglicaan? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #51
So let me get this straight pinebox Oct 2015 #53
Changing subject now? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #55
That was quite the pivot, wasn't it? zappaman Oct 2015 #73
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #90
Hey Fox and friends is on workinclasszero Oct 2015 #97
Joe Scarborough-DI Mendocino Oct 2015 #98
MSNBC currently airs more right wing and right leaning TV than it does progressive tishaLA Oct 2015 #56
Thank goodness Keith Olbermann told it like it was with Slow Scarborough! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2015 #96
lol silenttigersong Oct 2015 #46
Pretty much pinebox Oct 2015 #54
You're a Democrat? Comment is straight out of the poor aggrieved repub playbook. malachi Oct 2015 #103
uh, no thanks. Don't watch Republican talking noise! leftofcool Oct 2015 #30
MSNBC pinebox Oct 2015 #35
Morning Scumbag. Who's next, Rush? leftofcool Oct 2015 #57
I don't know, are you going to discuss the video pinebox Oct 2015 #61
IKR? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #106
Apparently you haven't been paying much attention ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2015 #93
LOL Gore1FL Oct 2015 #81
Mika and Joe NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #104
Broken Clocks come to mind ... When truth rings, I see no reason to ignore it... 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #33
It's hilarious pinebox Oct 2015 #36
And because I may dislike or disagree with another MSNBC talking head, 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #50
It's like this pinebox Oct 2015 #52
Being rational will get you attacked every time. Vattel Oct 2015 #77
I know sexism when I see it too. azmom Oct 2015 #42
Somebody needs to tell Hillary, a good stern "Cut it out" nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #64
that is not a person I'd turn to for advice about what is and isn't sexist, sorry. tishaLA Oct 2015 #44
No surprise coming from Mika. riversedge Oct 2015 #45
Bernie / Brzezinski 2016!!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #48
Ouch! leftofcool Oct 2015 #59
Mika, drab and unimpressive as usual. (eom) oasis Oct 2015 #58
From Ann Coulter to Mika... JTFrog Oct 2015 #60
Mika is just afraid moobu2 Oct 2015 #62
Nicole Wallace? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2015 #99
Nice of Joe to let her say that. Nt 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #63
I was juror 5 randys1 Oct 2015 #66
I was juror #7 Quackers Oct 2015 #67
Thanks pinebox Oct 2015 #68
Didn't like the message. Shoot the messager. sarge43 Oct 2015 #75
This type of post should never be alerted on. leftofcool Oct 2015 #69
Joe is a rightwing source, for sure. Most criticism of hillary on du can be found on rightwing randys1 Oct 2015 #70
Yes. It doesn't matter if Hillary or Bernie is the nominee Quackers Oct 2015 #88
Hillary's writers are doing her no favor with this one. lark Oct 2015 #71
Typical Camp Weathervane tactics on this thread. 99Forever Oct 2015 #72
Funny how whenever someone is complaining about a "card" of some type being played... Amimnoch Oct 2015 #74
Sanders was directly addressing Clinton about shouting. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #76
I dislike these TV asswipes, but hey, if it's true it's true Android3.14 Oct 2015 #82
We saw this in 2008 Geronimoe Oct 2015 #83
"Sexism card" or "gender card" are the constructs of misogynists. nt LexVegas Oct 2015 #84
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #87
Some people say when a woman calls out a sexist she is playing the gender card. 6chars Oct 2015 #89
Who cares who the messenger is. It was pathetic and transparent... raindaddy Oct 2015 #94
alert results MisterP Oct 2015 #100
That's just plain ridiculous. Beausoir Oct 2015 #110
Aren't you just special leftofcool Oct 2015 #101
Disgusting post. Beausoir Oct 2015 #109
A phrase is disgusting but the manipulation of a good man's words to try and make him appear sexist raindaddy Oct 2015 #113
The more I hear the 1%er, Thespian2 Oct 2015 #105
Mika's just another corporate tool on the show..No one still believes she's a Democrat anymore whathehell Oct 2015 #107
Did she include this as part of her stump speech? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #108
Mika Mouse is a fuckwit but a stopped clock is right twice a day. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #111
Clinton's silenttigersong Oct 2015 #112
IMO, Hillary Clinton does not have an honest bone in her body. senz Oct 2015 #114
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
3. I do?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:45 AM
Oct 2015

Why do people assume I watch Morning Joe because I posted a YouTube video? Who's "you people"?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
47. What is wrong with the phrase "you people" being used in this manner? nt.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

Seems to be directed at the op and those who watch. Is their something wrong with addressing people who watch the main stream media as "you people?" I can't for the life of me find offense at those two words as you are. Why do people still watch that crap. That is the exact same thing. Where is the offence?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
4. erm
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:46 AM
Oct 2015
“Know Your Value” women’s conference, a series of live events for women in Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Chicago, Boston, and Orlando. The idea is based on her 2011 best-selling biography-advice book, Knowing Your Value, and focuses on giving women tools to live a better life and build a new “movement,”


What exactly is your problem with that? http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-mika-brzezinski-wont-stop-until-women-know-their-value

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
117. Well, she's a woman who has gone off the Corporate Script apparently and echoed the views of many
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:37 AM
Oct 2015

women who were deeply offended by Hillary, of all people, claiming to be a victim. I do not watch MSM so am not familiar with her other than what I read here.

But on this, and her added comment that she 'will be killed for this' I could not agree more with her.

It is nauseating to constantly see women portrayed as victims, when we fight so hard to demonstrate that we are anything BUT weak, scared, shouted down, '50s era stereotypes of what women really are.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
6. Joe is a sexist asshole that sits next to her every single week day.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:49 AM
Oct 2015

She can't recognize a damned thing.

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
80. Saying that something isn't sexist isn't defending sexism.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:24 PM
Oct 2015

Saying that only women shout is pretty sexist on yours and her part, however.

Why do you and Hillary equate shouting with only women? Do you consider them to be inferior?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
116. Explain how it was sexism. Mika is a female that recognizes that cries of sexism "the gender
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:34 AM
Oct 2015

card" are only attempts by HRC to gain political favor. It reeks of desperation.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
18. You don't find it a bit hypocritical?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:58 AM
Oct 2015

You don't find it a bit hypocritical that the same woman you say "fights for women's issues" sits next to a man every morning who makes continuous sexist comments? Okay, whatever!

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
20. Do you understand how insane your argument is?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:03 AM
Oct 2015

I'm guessing no.

Look, Obama must be a Republican.
Case closed.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
24. Who's siding with the tea party?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

I wasn't aware Tea Party people watch MSNBC. Hmmm that's a new one.
Now are you going to talk about what was said and what Mika said or are you going to continue to deflect and spin it? Concentrate. Focus. I know you can do it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
118. All I know is she's a woman and she is saying what nearly every woman I know has said about
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:40 AM
Oct 2015

Hillary playing the victim. We don't need victims leading this country. And I can only imagine what Limbaugh and the rest of the Right Wing Noise Machine will do with this to slam women in general with, especially women who have fought to NOT be viewed as weak, whining victims.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
8. Ahh, Bernie fans rediscovering their love for mainstream media!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:53 AM
Oct 2015

It was just a few weeks ago they were saying that all the corporate bosses were forcing pundits to support Hillary.

The mental gymnastics... impressive!

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
11. Oh?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:54 AM
Oct 2015

So is that your new thing now, attack people and deflect from the issue at hand, in this case, the video? Gotchya. That's pretty legit.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
26. Sure I've done it
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:10 AM
Oct 2015

but so have you too. Let's cut the bullshit Dan. Your commentary on internet polls wasn't exactly stellar.
Now are you going to discuss the issue here and the reason why I made the post or are you going to spin it into some splintering access point that leads to Saturn?

Mika has a point.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
31. Forwarded conspiracy theories and poll trutherism? Umm, no I haven't.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:13 AM
Oct 2015

My commentary on internet polls was spot-on, and vindicated when the scientific polls came out.

The issue I'm interested in is how quickly Bernie fans switch from conspiracy theories to cheering on the MSM depending on what the MSM is saying.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
34. Dan
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

I think it's comical how'd you'd like to get into an online pissing contest of "You did and I didn't" rather than discuss the video and story which I posted. One custom Google search says it all but het I'd rather discuss you know, things which matter, like the video I posted.

Thanks for playing! That says a lot. You can't defend it.
Cheers!

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
39. Glad you find it funny. So do I. That was my point, in fact.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

You're wrong about one thing, though: that video you posted is not something that matters.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
41. It's not something that matters?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:22 AM
Oct 2015

Then why are you posting in my thread about it? You should probably move along then, eh?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
43. I'm posting about the hot-and-cold romance between Bernie fans and the MSM. It's funny!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:24 AM
Oct 2015

I think Katy Perry sang about it at that Iowa event. Here's a video that matters...


 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
65. Touche!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:46 AM
Oct 2015

You can have Katy, I'll take the people. We don't need a pop stars to get a crowd to be the same size as the person who's running against us



 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
40. Busted?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

Like you know, actually trying to talk about what I posted? Guilty as charged bud. Pencil me in!

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
92. I'm laughing: Bernie fans, one day the MSM is part of an evil conspiracy, next day, they love it!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

treestar

(82,383 posts)
102. Yes, this is the MSM and don't the oligarchs own it?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:35 PM
Oct 2015

How can they be saying anything not in tune with what the oligarchs require?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
115. Mika doesn't speak for Corp-Media that not only loves HRC but are among her largest
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015

campaign donors.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. WTF are berniebros now siding with teapublicans over democrats?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:00 AM
Oct 2015

Why don't you take this **** to freakrepublic where it belongs?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
23. LMFAO!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:06 AM
Oct 2015

You're hilarious! Why don't you watch the video from MSNBC's Morning Joe this morning and comment on that. It's all right there, live from this morning on MSNBC. Or do you have no defense of this? It is what it is and it's all there.

Have at it. Or does MSNBC scare you?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
28. I don't get my info from republican talk shows
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015

hate radio or fox news.

Apparently Bernie fans are good with those right wing propaganda sources.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
38. Really?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

MSNBC is a right wing propaganda source?
Utterly fascinating. I didn't know that. Wow I better write that shit down.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
51. Morning Joe aint rethuglicaan?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

Charles Joseph "Joe" Scarborough is an American cable news and talk radio host, lawyer, author, and former politician. He is currently the co-host of Morning Joe on MSNBC, and previously hosted Scarborough Country on the same channel. Scarborough served in the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001 as a Republican from the 1st district of Florida.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough

This will make it easier for you. Make sure you write down this part:

Scarborough served in the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001 as a Republican from the 1st district of Florida.

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #55)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
97. Hey Fox and friends is on
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

You better turn it on and get the latest Hillary talking points from the RNC

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
56. MSNBC currently airs more right wing and right leaning TV than it does progressive
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:37 AM
Oct 2015

Sure, we have Chris, Rachel, and Lawrence in the evening, but that's offset by three hours of Morning Joe (which is conservative TV and hues closely to republican narratives/framing even when it has progressive guests), an hour of Andrea Mitchell, and another hour of Chuck Todd

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
96. Thank goodness Keith Olbermann told it like it was with Slow Scarborough!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:47 PM
Oct 2015

JESUS, JOE, GET A SHOVEL!!!!

#t=27
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
61. I don't know, are you going to discuss the video
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:39 AM
Oct 2015

or are you just going to continue to get mad and rage?
Clock out dude if you can't actually discuss things in a civil manner.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
93. Apparently you haven't been paying much attention
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:41 PM
Oct 2015

Morning Slow is the worst fucking show on MSNBC, and they are doing everything they can to make every show on MSNBC more like it as they trend right.

Joe Scarbourough murdered an intern, and is now treated like a political savant. Meanwhile Mika is his "liberal" enabler. She is Alan Colmes in a dress.

I understand you're probably new to this politics thing, but everyone here knows Morning Blow sucks!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
104. Mika and Joe
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:41 PM
Oct 2015

are about the same political stripe as Hillary I believe, so I think your mention of "teapublicans" is a bit disingenuous. Why not just admit you don't like that Hillary got called out on her attack? Constantly attacking the source, and NEVER addressing the actual issue being raised in a coherent manner is EXACTLY what "teapublicans" do.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
33. Broken Clocks come to mind ... When truth rings, I see no reason to ignore it...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

..just because of it's source ... The truth is the truth.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
50. And because I may dislike or disagree with another MSNBC talking head,
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

like Chuck Todd or whoever, then that ipso facto means I can NEVER agree with
ANYthing said on MSNBC, or I'll be attacked for being duplicitous ... or something.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
42. I know sexism when I see it too.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:23 AM
Oct 2015

I know she is trying to fire up her women supporters, but she needs to leave Bernie out of that.
Hillary is off base on this one.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
44. that is not a person I'd turn to for advice about what is and isn't sexist, sorry.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:24 AM
Oct 2015

In fact, I don't think I'd turn to her to discuss any serious matter.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
62. Mika is just afraid
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:42 AM
Oct 2015

she'll be replaced as Joe's 'yes girl' by that dimwit obnoxious Republican harpy they have on the show every other day. She worked in the Bush jr. administration. I stopped watching that show several years ago. It's awful.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
66. I was juror 5
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015

On Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:38 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Mika Brzezinski slams Hillary for playing sexism card on Morning Joe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251732136

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

First this guy attacks Hillary using an Ann Coulter video... now he's attacking Hillary using Mika. Why on earth are we using Republicans and assholes to attack our Democratic candidates? This is completely inappropriate for DU.

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Explanation: Why was this alerted? MSM criticizing Hillary? If we ban this we cant have any media at all, pretty much.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Explanation: So let me get this straight, you want me to hide a post because it has a video clip embedded in it from msnbc that criticizes Hillary? Why would you think it's ok to hide someone's post just for posting a news clip? If the information is wrong, then say so and debate it with the poster. You can't silence someone for having a differing opinion.

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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
68. Thanks
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:58 AM
Oct 2015

Good explanation, too. I could understand their issue if I was posting something straight off Limbaugh or Alex Jones but MSNBC? Come on now.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
69. This type of post should never be alerted on.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

For me personally, it is hilarious that some people link to right wing resources.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
70. Joe is a rightwing source, for sure. Most criticism of hillary on du can be found on rightwing
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:01 PM
Oct 2015

sites, hell all of it really.

It isnt fooling me, but I have a high bar for hiding a post.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
88. Yes. It doesn't matter if Hillary or Bernie is the nominee
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

All of this stuff will be churned up and used. Might as well debate and squash the lies here and now then waiting till the general. It makes me kind of sick to my stomach though to see all of this in-fighting. I actually can't wait till the primaries are over. Just because someone doesn't support the candidate that you do, doesn't make them a bad person. hrmjustin for example, I still don't understand how he got 5 hides.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
72. Typical Camp Weathervane tactics on this thread.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:12 PM
Oct 2015

Never address the issue, instead character assassinate the messenger.

Birds of a feather.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
74. Funny how whenever someone is complaining about a "card" of some type being played...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:16 PM
Oct 2015

It's usually because that card IS being played.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
76. Sanders was directly addressing Clinton about shouting.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

Anyone who watched the debate saw that. Right after she zinged him on his gun stances, he says, "What I can tell Secretary Clinton is that all the shouting in the world will not do what we want..."

He absolutely was accusing her of shouting. It is along the lines of the typical misogynistic attempt to shut uppity women up, accusing them of being "emotional" or "hysterical." Sanders later on CNN says he didn't mean Clinton but meant "people across the country" calling for gun control. Not only is this an unfair dig at gun control advocates, but he didn't say "people across the country," he said "Secretary Clinton."

And on top of that, the whole "people need to stop shouting about gun violence" meme is bullshit and offensive. People DO need to shout about gun violence. We have been silent too long. We have ceded the podium to the NRA. Enough.

It is Mika who is pathetic here, acquiescing to Joe Scarborough's assertion that Hillary was "pathetic" and nodding to Scarborough's disgust with "political correctness."

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
82. I dislike these TV asswipes, but hey, if it's true it's true
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

Calling Bernie sexist is like calling Obama an immigrant. Only stupid and/or unethical people play that sort of game.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
83. We saw this in 2008
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary slinging mud so she doesn't have to discuss her record and policies.

She had Obama associating with extreme radicals. Michelle hating America. Edwards and Obama beating up on her because she is a female. With Rev. Wright highly edited clip he appeared to hate America and was questioning Obama's religious beliefs.

Fortunately, the muddling even hit the Kennedy family and Edwards decided to back Obama and campaigned with him.

Response to pinebox (Original post)

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
94. Who cares who the messenger is. It was pathetic and transparent...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:43 PM
Oct 2015

I guess Hillary could've pulled the vagina card when Sander's stood up for her after she was being grilled on her e-mail issue. I was surprised she gratefully accepted the help from such a women hating misogynist as Bernie Sanders.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
100. alert results
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:31 PM
Oct 2015

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"vagina card" Really? need more be said? Forget Hillary.. forget Bernie.. forget election stuff. This should never be acceptible on any site that would call itself liberal or progressive. This is a right wing, misogynistic insult no matter who it is aimed at.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:18 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

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raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
113. A phrase is disgusting but the manipulation of a good man's words to try and make him appear sexist
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:09 PM
Oct 2015

for personal political gain is acceptable?

I'll apologize if I offended anyone's sensibilities, but I won't apologize for my personal disgust with Hillary's dishonest and manipulative campaign tactics..

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
105. The more I hear the 1%er,
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

the more I understand why I don't want the Goldman-Sachs water-girl as president...

Oh, I listened to the 1%er, not Mika...

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
107. Mika's just another corporate tool on the show..No one still believes she's a Democrat anymore
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:00 PM
Oct 2015

I hope, the supposed "balance"? Ninety percent of the time she agrees with Joe

or plays "the little woman" in silence.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
108. Did she include this as part of her stump speech?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

Doesn't she realize how it sounds when you string together clips repeating the same thing over and over?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
114. IMO, Hillary Clinton does not have an honest bone in her body.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:25 PM
Oct 2015

I realized it during the 2008 primary campaign. I hope she goes down in flames this time just like she did then.

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