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No more quantum politics (Original Post) hootinholler Oct 2015 OP
........ daleanime Oct 2015 #1
I need to share this. Well done. azmom Oct 2015 #2
The Clinton Uncertainty Principle. Nice! n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #3
HRC - The Quantum Candidate - She Is Till She Is Not cantbeserious Oct 2015 #4
The real problem is her entanglement with Big Finance mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #5
Spooky action at a distance has been confirmed as a real phenomenon Electric Monk Oct 2015 #6
Eventually, we should be able to do faster than light communications with the phenomena n/t hootinholler Oct 2015 #8
Use the subspace frequencies, Mister Worf! hifiguy Oct 2015 #11
I'm working on that mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #13
Why not? hifiguy Oct 2015 #17
For the record, they outclass me by far mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #26
Seriously??? hootinholler Oct 2015 #19
Yeah, the idea is to create entangled pair and send one stream through a double-slit mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #24
Apparent action at a distance hootinholler Oct 2015 #7
I always have to jump into discussions involving quantum mechanics :) mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #14
At least it is highly probable that you do. hifiguy Oct 2015 #18
Good point :) mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #25
Three quarks for Muster Mark! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #9
Professor Murray Gell-Mann hifiguy Oct 2015 #16
That is truly excellent, hoot! hifiguy Oct 2015 #10
Thanks! hootinholler Oct 2015 #12
I thought we settled on Heisenberg? Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #15
But, this has nothing to do with meth hootinholler Oct 2015 #20
I thought it was Heidelberg LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2015 #22
This could easily lead to one hell of a sub-thread! Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #23
WAit a minute! gregcrawford Oct 2015 #21
"Schrodinger's Candidate" - consider this stolen Scootaloo Oct 2015 #27
but all of those superpac $ allow corporations to commit mhatrw Oct 2015 #28

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
5. The real problem is her entanglement with Big Finance
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:03 PM
Oct 2015

She supports the wave function that's transferring money to those who already have it.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
13. I'm working on that
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

It looks like the universe is conspiring to keep us from using entanglement to transmit information, although I, perhaps foolishly, hope to find a way around it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. Why not?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:08 PM
Oct 2015

The greatest scientific discoveries have always been made by solitary people thinking deeply about something for a long time and having a startling, profound insight: Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, deBroglie, Heisenberg, Dirac....

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
26. For the record, they outclass me by far
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:27 PM
Oct 2015

I'm just some dude with a BBO, a couple of detectors, and a certain level of insanity.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
19. Seriously???
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:09 PM
Oct 2015

Mad props for that!

What's the major malfunction? As an engineering type it seem like it should work provided the entanglement isn't, for lack of a better term, consumed.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
24. Yeah, the idea is to create entangled pair and send one stream through a double-slit
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:26 PM
Oct 2015

That should create an interference pattern. If, however, the other stream with the entangled pairs is measured in such a way as to "preserve the momentum information," it's akin to observing which slit the initial photons went through and destroys the interference. Birgit Dopfer did this in 1998.

A wrinkle in the experiment is that she useda coincidence detector (basically an AND gate) to filter out all the non-entangled photons. A guy, Dr. John Cramer, was working on developing a system that didn't need that coincidence detector, and what he found was that there is a kind of anti-signal which fills in the spaces in between the interference fringes and masks out the signal. I'm quite confused by this: how does it exactly mask it out, and if the coincidence detector filters the anti-signal out, how is it that the anti-signal responds to the measurement on the other stream? My conclusion was that I just had to build the damn thing and find out.

It seems to me like there should be some way around this problem, and I wonder whether there's some sort of pattern between entangled photons vs. non-entangled, anti-signal photons. Maybe there's a timing relationship? It seems highly likely that Cramer explored this fully, but I just can't let it go. Maybe it would be possible to train a neural network to detect some sort of difference that us humans don't otherwise see.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
7. Apparent action at a distance
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:11 PM
Oct 2015

Yet, the appearance of a particle stream under observation is uncanny.

Props for following the principle postulation posted.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. Professor Murray Gell-Mann
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:06 PM
Oct 2015

appreciates this reference, along with a few of us science nerds on DU.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. I thought we settled on Heisenberg?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:06 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe it was just me.






http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657234#post96

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Star Member arcane1 (33,667 posts)

Response to Kokonoe (Reply #93)Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:35 PM

96. Schrodinger's Candidate?




http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657234#post152

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Motown_Johnny (18,825 posts)

Response to arcane1 (Reply #96)Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:20 PM

152. Heisenberg's maybe.

No thing (that Hillary has stated) has a definite position, a definite trajectory, or a definite momentum.










22. I thought it was Heidelberg
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:15 PM
Oct 2015


“Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.” -- W.C. Fields
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
23. This could easily lead to one hell of a sub-thread!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:18 PM
Oct 2015

"Once, during Prohibition, I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water." -- W.C. Fields



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