2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNo more quantum politics
I just can't vote for a Schrodinger's Candidate that holds multiple positions simultaneously until the ballot box is opened.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)She supports the wave function that's transferring money to those who already have it.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)It looks like the universe is conspiring to keep us from using entanglement to transmit information, although I, perhaps foolishly, hope to find a way around it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The greatest scientific discoveries have always been made by solitary people thinking deeply about something for a long time and having a startling, profound insight: Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, deBroglie, Heisenberg, Dirac....
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)I'm just some dude with a BBO, a couple of detectors, and a certain level of insanity.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Mad props for that!
What's the major malfunction? As an engineering type it seem like it should work provided the entanglement isn't, for lack of a better term, consumed.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)That should create an interference pattern. If, however, the other stream with the entangled pairs is measured in such a way as to "preserve the momentum information," it's akin to observing which slit the initial photons went through and destroys the interference. Birgit Dopfer did this in 1998.
A wrinkle in the experiment is that she useda coincidence detector (basically an AND gate) to filter out all the non-entangled photons. A guy, Dr. John Cramer, was working on developing a system that didn't need that coincidence detector, and what he found was that there is a kind of anti-signal which fills in the spaces in between the interference fringes and masks out the signal. I'm quite confused by this: how does it exactly mask it out, and if the coincidence detector filters the anti-signal out, how is it that the anti-signal responds to the measurement on the other stream? My conclusion was that I just had to build the damn thing and find out.
It seems to me like there should be some way around this problem, and I wonder whether there's some sort of pattern between entangled photons vs. non-entangled, anti-signal photons. Maybe there's a timing relationship? It seems highly likely that Cramer explored this fully, but I just can't let it go. Maybe it would be possible to train a neural network to detect some sort of difference that us humans don't otherwise see.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Yet, the appearance of a particle stream under observation is uncanny.
Props for following the principle postulation posted.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)appreciates this reference, along with a few of us science nerds on DU.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Brainiest joke/truth on DU in quite a while.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Maybe it was just me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657234#post96
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Star Member arcane1 (33,667 posts)
Response to Kokonoe (Reply #93)Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:35 PM
96. Schrodinger's Candidate?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657234#post152
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Motown_Johnny (18,825 posts)
Response to arcane1 (Reply #96)Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:20 PM
152. Heisenberg's maybe.
No thing (that Hillary has stated) has a definite position, a definite trajectory, or a definite momentum.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,563 posts)Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer. -- W.C. Fields
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)"Once, during Prohibition, I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water." -- W.C. Fields
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)Why is this ballot box full of cat hair?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)spooky actions at a distance