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fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:45 PM Oct 2015

What can HC do to get my vote?

I doubt she cares.

But I would like to see some transcripts of the speeches she and her husband made to all the Wall Street companies that paid them anywhere from $100,000 to $250,000 per appearance. Real transcripts, dated and notarized.

It would be especially appreciated to know if any of these companies are contributors to that Super PAC of hers.

I have never heard her make a speech that I would pay anything for.

Not being snarky, I am sincere, and would really like to know if what she's told them is what her campaign tells us to help me understand her popularity with the 1% of the wealthiest people in the US.

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What can HC do to get my vote? (Original Post) fadedrose Oct 2015 OP
For me, nothing. bigwillq Oct 2015 #1
Very Naderish of you. we can do it Oct 2015 #13
You object to the democratic progress I take it? My objecton has always been to the theft, by the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #48
Vanity votes help Republicans. we can do it Oct 2015 #49
Not true. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #55
You can always email her campaign to ask for them leftofcool Oct 2015 #2
Evil money used for good BootinUp Oct 2015 #20
Oh yeah... Halliburton has definitely been helping those "poor countries" Fearless Oct 2015 #25
Didn't they steal pensions or something a few years ago? fadedrose Oct 2015 #36
I periodically have a version of this argument w. a friend who's a committed Clinton supporter. Smarmie Doofus Oct 2015 #3
This must be your imaginary Hillary friend. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #11
I'm glad you agree the logic is beyond ridiculous. Smarmie Doofus Oct 2015 #14
This must be typical of supporters. fadedrose Oct 2015 #38
Tell your friend for me 840high Oct 2015 #42
Why the hell is there a Republican Party if upaloopa Oct 2015 #4
Alternate.... quickesst Oct 2015 #6
The 1% know we peasants divide into "parties." So they cover their bets. senz Oct 2015 #9
You don't know a thing about what you post. upaloopa Oct 2015 #12
Senz is correct. You are being played. azmom Oct 2015 #22
It's called 'Hedging' AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #30
Republicans are too smart to be hoodwinked fadedrose Oct 2015 #39
Maybe if she got a soul transplant? senz Oct 2015 #5
I am sincere in wanting to know what was promised.....nt fadedrose Oct 2015 #40
why don't you vote for sanders or omalley ? JI7 Oct 2015 #8
I will vote for Sanders or O'Malley fadedrose Oct 2015 #41
It's more than wall street. Skwmom Oct 2015 #10
Your post should be read by everyone... fadedrose Oct 2015 #33
The Clinton Foundation is the real repository of "funds" senz Oct 2015 #45
There is nothing she can do...not after the BS that went on today Hepburn Oct 2015 #15
+ 1,000,000,000 - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #16
But I bet you don't have a problem with this................. leftofcool Oct 2015 #17
Whining about 'supporters' shows a lack of substance AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #32
I don't think they hold it against her that she's a woman fadedrose Oct 2015 #35
+1 I'm amazed that anyone buys it or tries to sell it. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #18
Last straw for me too. azmom Oct 2015 #23
Agree. think Oct 2015 #28
I just went off on this on another thread: totally agreed! it was vile n/t zazen Oct 2015 #51
How about becoming the nominee? MineralMan Oct 2015 #19
. BootinUp Oct 2015 #21
Not no fadedrose Oct 2015 #24
. BootinUp Oct 2015 #29
Get a signed and notarized contract that states that she will resign if she breaks a single campaign Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #26
Where do I sign this contract....? fadedrose Oct 2015 #27
If she gets the nomination dflprincess Oct 2015 #31
Exactly. I think of it as a stretched rubber band snapping back. senz Oct 2015 #46
You'll hold Bernie to that standard right? Absolutely no wiggle room? brooklynite Oct 2015 #52
Get both feet to the left AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #34
Don't kid yourself, these speaking fees are nothing more than disguised bribes coyote Oct 2015 #37
Of course it buys access. I have 840high Oct 2015 #43
She has a big flashing "For Sale" sticker up senz Oct 2015 #47
Ha. ucrdem Oct 2015 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #50
At the primary/caucus level nothing. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #53
This is not a sincere OP. randome Oct 2015 #54
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
1. For me, nothing.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:48 PM
Oct 2015

She will never get my vote; I just don't like her. If she wins the the nomination, I hope she wins the presidency because the alternative is worse, but I can't vote for her.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
48. You object to the democratic progress I take it? My objecton has always been to the theft, by the
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015

US SC of a Presidental election. I have zero objection to our democratic process which allows any American citizen to run for office, legally.

I am against treason, which is what was committed by the five felons who stole that election and knew what they were doing when they declared, outrageously, that their decision to do that, would not set 'precedent'. A further poke in the eye to the people of this country.

I am always stunned by people who object to US Citizens exercising their Constitutional rights, LEGALLY, while ignoring the criminal activity that is right there in front of them.

Someday someone will explain this phenomenon to me.

we can do it

(12,182 posts)
49. Vanity votes help Republicans.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 09:27 AM
Oct 2015

Voting for Mickey Mouse in a general election proves what? Your vote is thrown away. Period. Spare me the drama, we have a 2 party system.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
55. Not true.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

If you live in a solid red or solid blue state, your vote for the opposite party does nothing, really.

I live in Tennessee. I don't have to put my conscience through mental gymnastics to vote for Hillary because it simply doesn't matter. I can't and won't vote for her. I'm tired of these corporate-owned war-hawks being foisted on us in the Democratic Party and I'm done supporting it.

I can vote for the Green Party or Mickey Mouse or my dog for president because, at the end of the day, my state is going to turn all 11 of its Electoral College votes over to the Republicans.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. You can always email her campaign to ask for them
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:50 PM
Oct 2015

At the same time, you can also ask for a list of those evil companies who have donated to the CGI and the evil way they have helped poor people in many countries.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
36. Didn't they steal pensions or something a few years ago?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:08 PM
Oct 2015

That's why they needed the money, to help poor countries.

What Robin Hoods they are, or maybe just "hoods."

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. I periodically have a version of this argument w. a friend who's a committed Clinton supporter.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:03 PM
Oct 2015


It basically comes down to this:

He KNOWS she's full of shit; he KNOWS she can't be trusted: he KNOWS she's got her "finger in the air". ALWAYS. CONSTANTLY.

He AGREES that NOTHING she says about ANYTHING can be taken at face value.

Ready?

Vote for her ANYWAY, he advises.

The above are not weaknesses...he insists.... they are in fact STRENGTHS.

This is the "real world", he insists.... requiring REALISM in political calculation. And too much rides on keeping the Tea Party's hands off the Supreme Court.

My reply is... thanks... but no thanks. Or a version thereof.






Response to MoonRiver (Reply #7)

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
14. I'm glad you agree the logic is beyond ridiculous.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:03 PM
Oct 2015

Problem is... he ain't imaginary.

And I doubt if he's particularly atypical.

But he should get a kick... I guess it's too much to hope for a *revelation*.... when I link to your post.


fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
38. This must be typical of supporters.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:09 PM
Oct 2015

Didn't he say what he was going to be paid or promised as part of realism?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. Why the hell is there a Republican Party if
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:06 PM
Oct 2015

the whole 1% supports Hillary? I mean why bother to have an election if the whole damn bunch of 1%ers supports Hillary?
You make no damn sense.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
9. The 1% know we peasants divide into "parties." So they cover their bets.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:01 PM
Oct 2015

Seriously, all the megacorporations give money to both parties. They don't care about "party." They just want to stay in control of government.

And they know that if it's bought-and-sold Hillary or some Republican, they win. Either way, they win.

And you, sweet upaloopa, are going to help them! Ooo, good on you!

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
39. Republicans are too smart to be hoodwinked
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:12 PM
Oct 2015

That's why they're the richest and the 1%...

It's the uneducated and unwashed and gullible that are easiest to bamboozle. That's us ....

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
41. I will vote for Sanders or O'Malley
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:16 PM
Oct 2015

I was just pulling the HC supporters legs by asking for HC's speeches. I bet they are as clueless as we are as to what was promised...

I've donated to Bernie & Biden. Bernie's people say their average donation is $50...I'm getting there.....

Whereas HC's are probably $50,000....they don't need me..

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
33. Your post should be read by everyone...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:03 PM
Oct 2015

Why in the hell does she want to be president and have to account for all money made and relinquish all control over any stocks, bonds, and other miscellaneous money-making schemes while in office?

She'll make a lot less as president, but she'll be done kissing butts..oh wait, Chelsea will be running. There's just no end to kissing butts once you start

Thank you for those unbelievable figures and the link.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
15. There is nothing she can do...not after the BS that went on today
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:05 PM
Oct 2015

The sexist claims are disgusting. I know what sexist claims are. When I started practicing law, judges would call female attorneys "honey" and "dear." To play that card against Bernie Sanders was the last straw with me. Hillary and I are about the same age -- she knows the truth but it just does not matter to her. I have seen it too many times when she has skirted the truth and too many more when she has just out and out lied. This bullshit about Bernie being a sexist, sorry, but that was so over the top, how can she and her campaign spout this nonsense with straight faces.

Sorry, but if she is our nominee, I am going to have to think long and hard about voting for her. This sexist bullshit was the last straw with me.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
17. But I bet you don't have a problem with this.................
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

I bet you don't have a problem with the bernie supporters going all over the net making sexist comments about Hillary. This just made MSNBC news. A women says she won't be told to stop shouting and the bernie supporters go nuts. Bernie supporters have now become his worst enemy.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
35. I don't think they hold it against her that she's a woman
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:05 PM
Oct 2015

They just don't like Hillary so their comments are understandable.

This is politics. Take it or leave it.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
24. Not no
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:40 PM
Oct 2015

But like Boehner would say, Hell NO!

But thanks for your thoughtful and polite suggestion.... I mean it. I consider you one of the smart opposition. yes, there are a few of you.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Get a signed and notarized contract that states that she will resign if she breaks a single campaign
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:47 PM
Oct 2015

promise she makes while triangulating during the primary.

And even then only if SCotUS weighs in to note that it's legally binding.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
46. Exactly. I think of it as a stretched rubber band snapping back.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:22 AM
Oct 2015

She'll probably have total amnesia for everything she said during the primary.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
34. Get both feet to the left
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:05 PM
Oct 2015

Instead of the Third Way® triangulation. Right now she has one foot on the Democratic side and one foot on the Republican side. She needs to stop trying to be all things to all people and stop trying to woo Republicans. They will never vote for her ever.

That and tell her surrogates (DWS) to stop openly cheating in her favor, cuz if she gets the nomination through dirty tricks, she won't get my vote.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
37. Don't kid yourself, these speaking fees are nothing more than disguised bribes
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:08 PM
Oct 2015

There is no speech in the world that is worth $300,000 for 20 minutes. Unless of course it buys you political access, which needless to say does.

Response to fadedrose (Original post)

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
53. At the primary/caucus level nothing.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:31 AM
Oct 2015

At the primary/caucus level she cannot get my vote. Not at all. Not ever. I cannot be convinced of supporting her on that level. She has proven herself to be deceptive on the TPP and the Keystone pipeline and her bogus implications of sexism on the part of Bernie Sanders.

As to the election next November? Of course I will stumble drunk into the polls and vote to assure that whatever idiot stumbles out of the GOP clown car never sees the inside of the White House except as part of a tour group. "Ok... we're walking.... we're walking... Oh no Mr. Trump, secret service will stop you if you go that way."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
54. This is not a sincere OP.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

You want to be her accountant so you can be sure she's perfect before she'll get your vote? Meh.
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