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andym

(5,443 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:37 PM Sep 2012

The election is likely going to hinge on the economic data released in October and Nov 2

That means that now is the time to give money to the Obama campaign and to reinforce with everyone you can that Romney will make things worse economically, and make the country a worse place to live. Also, memorize Clinton's lines and paraphrase them as needed:

"Don’t you ever forget when you hear them talking about this that Republican economic policies quadrupled the national debt before I took office, in the 12 years before I took office — (applause) — and doubled the debt in the eight years after I left, because it defied arithmetic. (Laughter, applause.) It was a highly inconvenient thing for them in our debates that I was just a country boy from Arkansas, and I came from a place where people still thought two and two was four. (Laughter, applause.) It’s arithmetic."

It also means that it is extremely unwise to talk about the election "being in the bag." First, because it isn't true, and second because i discourages voting and participation.

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The election is likely going to hinge on the economic data released in October and Nov 2 (Original Post) andym Sep 2012 OP
I don't agree WeekendWarrior Sep 2012 #1
Most people have made up their minds. But not all. andym Sep 2012 #2
I don't think the undecideds are that large. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #3
I don't think it will. RedSpartan Sep 2012 #4

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
1. I don't agree
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

I think most people have already made up their minds and the choice is clear. Romney is obviously a clueless, soulless liar and I predict a landslide for Obama.

It's common wisdom that the economy controls elections. It was also common wisdom that a black man with limited experience in national politics could not possibly beat out seasoned veterans like Hillary Clinton and John McCain and win the presidency.

Common wisdom isn't always right.

andym

(5,443 posts)
2. Most people have made up their minds. But not all.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:46 PM
Sep 2012

And the undecided block (about 5-14% in the various polls) is big enough to swing the election. That's why the economic data is so important. It's also why the narrative is so important.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. I don't think the undecideds are that large.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:54 PM
Sep 2012

At this point, the candidates are known. Most people have made up their minds. Those who haven't (<5%, imo) are those who don't like either candidate and will likely vote third party or stay at home. IMO, the election will hinge on voter registration and GOTV.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
4. I don't think it will.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:54 PM
Sep 2012

As the saying goes, I think the lackluster economy is "baked into the cake" at this point. Barring an absolute meltdown, the economy is not going to really swing the polls one way or another at this point. I think the trenches are set on both sides, and it will all come down to the debates and, most critically, GOTV. Not to say that the data won't have an impact on some, I just don't see it having enough impact to swing the pendulum at this point.

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