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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:08 PM Sep 2012

"Even Evangelicals Sorta Kinda Like Obamacare Now" by Stephanie Mencimer at Mother Jones

Even Evangelicals Sorta Kinda Like Obamacare Now

by Stephanie Mencimer at Mother Jones

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/09/even-evangelicals-sorta-kinda-obamacare-now

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Attendees at this year's Values Voter Summit, the annual DC conference sponsored by the evangelical Family Research Council, have been among the most fervent opponents of President Obama's health care reform law. Some of the groups currently suing the Department of Health and Human Services over the law's requirement that health insurers cover contraception are on hand as exhibitors and panel discussion members. But even here, many attendees I interviewed Friday had to admit that now that the law had survived the Supreme Court and was starting to take effect, there were parts of Obamacare they not only liked, but which had already helped family members or people they knew.

Wes Cantrell, visiting from Atlanta, is no fan of Obamacare. He thinks it should mostly be repealed. Except for the part that's allowing his his grandson to stay on his parents' insurance plan while he's in college. "That's good," he concedes. Cantrell also admits that the ban on denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions ought to be spared. I didn't get a chance to explain that keeping the bit about preexisting conditions would be impossible without the individual mandate (the law's requirement that people buy health insurance or pay a fine), which will force lots of young healthy people into the system to subsidize the sicker people.

Another attendee, a doctor from Maryland who refused to give his name, told me that he had a sibling who got care for a very serious illness thanks to the new law. "That's a positive thing," he admitted. Even so, like many people I spoke with, for the doctor, the benefits still didn't outweigh what they see as the law's primary flaw: the mandatory contraception coverage. "I object to the burden imposed on institutions to provide contraception for free," the doctor said.

In the hotel hallway, I ran into a group of recent college graduates interning for the Family Research Council and asked them whether any of them were still on their parents' insurance plans. The horrified looks on their faces suggested that except for the British guy, every single one of them was getting insurance from their folks—the major benefit so far of Obamacare, which allows young people to stay on their parents' plans until the age of 26. They refused to talk about it and tried to pawn me off on some high school kids coming down the stairs.

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Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. I only like it when it benefits me
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:18 PM
Sep 2012

They are still the same assholes. Assholes who have no idea what good birth control does besides stopping a pregnancy from happening. Same assholes who wonder why the single mother to be left her baby in a dumpster to die. Welcome to the 18th Century.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. Conservatives, especially "value" types, don't think about HOW things work. Kids stay on?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:19 PM
Sep 2012

Pre-existing conditions covered?

No need to understand exactly how these things are possible.

Add BIG features that could increase the costs and the costs don't go up?

Magic.

 

SayitAintSo

(2,207 posts)
6. My Repuke Brother keeps slamming Obama care ...and just retired with 2 kids in college....
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:44 PM
Sep 2012

I keep reminding him that he needs to THANK Obama for their insurance coverage - (Both Kids had collective 4 week hospital stays this year...imagine the cost with no coverage). He says that the insurance companies were always planning to extend coverage....to which I respond 'bull s#*t' . He says no really... they announced if Obama care is repealed, they would continue to extend. If so - Obama care made that a reality -

I just don't get the denial of otherwise intelligent people... SO frustrating

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
10. Yes. I'm in Canada and I can hear a really loud waking noise coming from the USA these last
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:02 PM
Sep 2012

weeks. Why the GOP are so desperate.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
11. "Another attendee, a doctor from Maryland"...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:09 AM
Sep 2012

Andy Harris, of course. Reich wingnut US representative from the eastern shore, who wanted to know where his health insurance was after he got elected.

Douchebag extraordinaire.

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