2016 Postmortem

grantcart

(53,061 posts) Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:56 PM Sep 2012

How do you know a state is no longer within Romney's reach?

http://twitter.com/ppppolls

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Seems possible we won't poll PA again until the last week before the election when we poll everything- wouldn't have expected that year ago

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How do you know a state is no longer within Romney's reach? (Original Post) grantcart Sep 2012 OP

Is this a riddle? The answer, then, is you can not know. robinlynne Sep 2012 #1

when a pollster says that a state isn't even worth polling until the week before the election, grantcart Sep 2012 #2

I get that. I'm saying nothing is anything until the counting of the votes is over. Just remember robinlynne Sep 2012 #3

Using, for the most part, the voting machine that gave Obama a win in 2008... brooklynite Sep 2012 #5

and stole 13 Congressional seats, not to mention down ballot items. So you belive that Obama only wo robinlynne Sep 2012 #7

Obama won by 7% not 3%. former9thward Sep 2012 #8

Show me a poll (even PPP) that gave Obama 60-70%. brooklynite Sep 2012 #9

Obama won PA by 10.2 points in 2008 fujiyama Sep 2012 #11

Good to hear :) n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #4

Does this mean we won't get 24/7 political ads here in PA? Freddie Sep 2012 #6

maybe not so many for President... Blue Belle Sep 2012 #10

Now we're bombarded by Tom Smith's ads BlueInPhilly Sep 2012 #12

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)

1. Is this a riddle? The answer, then, is you can not know.

Reply to grantcart (Original post)

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:58 PM

Sep 2012

grantcart

(53,061 posts)

2. when a pollster says that a state isn't even worth polling until the week before the election,

Reply to robinlynne (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:03 PM

Sep 2012

it tells you they don't see Romney even making an effort.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)

3. I get that. I'm saying nothing is anything until the counting of the votes is over. Just remember

Reply to grantcart (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:05 PM

Sep 2012

that (right wing) private corporations are counting 80% of American votes.

brooklynite

(94,266 posts)

5. Using, for the most part, the voting machine that gave Obama a win in 2008...

Reply to robinlynne (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:21 AM

Sep 2012

Still not seeing the evidence for a major electronic vote theft conspiracy.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)

7. and stole 13 Congressional seats, not to mention down ballot items. So you belive that Obama only wo

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:08 PM

Sep 2012

won 2008 by 3 percent? I saw hundreds of thousands of people waiting in the rain and sun to vote.
Obama had 60 or 70% of the 2008 vote, easy. Didn't you notice they called it as close still? They just did not steal quite enough that year.

former9thward

(31,913 posts)

8. Obama won by 7% not 3%.

Reply to robinlynne (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:10 PM

Sep 2012

No he didn't win 60 or 70% of the votes. If you believe that CT then you have to believe the national Democratic party is in on the conspiracy too.

brooklynite

(94,266 posts)

9. Show me a poll (even PPP) that gave Obama 60-70%.

Reply to robinlynne (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:19 PM

Sep 2012

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)

11. Obama won PA by 10.2 points in 2008

Reply to robinlynne (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:11 PM

Sep 2012

54.4 to 44.2

If you can show me a pre election poll with an even greater margin from '08, I'd love to see it...

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

4. Good to hear :) n/t

Reply to grantcart (Original post)

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:10 PM

Sep 2012

Freddie

(9,255 posts)

6. Does this mean we won't get 24/7 political ads here in PA?

Reply to grantcart (Original post)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:07 AM

Sep 2012

Yay!!!!

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)

10. maybe not so many for President...

Reply to Freddie (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:52 PM

Sep 2012

but there are still house, senate, and state political races in your state. Sorry... I get sick of the ads too. That's why I DVR most of my TV watching.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)

12. Now we're bombarded by Tom Smith's ads

Reply to grantcart (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:15 AM

Sep 2012

against Bob Casey. Which, honestly, is laughable.

"Casey didn’t stand up for us when he voted for the failed stimulus that paid for jobs in china. Or his support for an energy tax that would cost even more jobs. Or when he failed to offer one single solution to create jobs."

I cringe everytime I hear that one, it's like a Hail Mary pass. Then I giggle.

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