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One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts) Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:44 AM Sep 2012

Boston University report hockey players’ “culture of sexual entitlement,”

I see college hasn't changed in the 25+ years i've been away.
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Atleast the problem is being talked about in the press.
Although it could have equally described the hockey and football teams at my School as well. Maybe there will be some progress at BU and other schools around the region.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2012/09/06/salacious-details-emerge-from-hockey-subcommittee-reports/ekiKZxGXpGgFfPQ4gzNQ9O/story.html

hockey players, surrounded by adoring fans, had “the perception that they need not seek consent for sexual contact.”

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Boston University report hockey players’ “culture of sexual entitlement,” (Original Post) One_Life_To_Give Sep 2012 OP

“You don’t ask [permission for sex] when you are drunk,” and that would be rape. seabeyond Sep 2012 #1

“the perception that they need not seek consent for sexual contact.” CrispyQ Sep 2012 #2

ah, but then we are hounded and ridiculed cause we dare to feel the need to educate. so i gotta ask seabeyond Sep 2012 #4

God, the longer you read it the worse it gets. MadrasT Sep 2012 #3

The same thing you call GUYS who hook up with multiple WOMEN 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #5

you might want to ask the woman about standing in a bar and a cop off duty sticking his hand up her seabeyond Sep 2012 #7

Horrible. Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #6

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

1. “You don’t ask [permission for sex] when you are drunk,” and that would be rape.

Reply to One_Life_To_Give (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:01 PM

Sep 2012

One player came close to admitting that. “You don’t ask [permission for sex] when you are drunk,” he told the task force, adding that he did not see how the actions of the two players charged last year constituted sexual assault.

Another player used two slurs to describe women who “hook up with multiple guys,” then wondered, “What other word for them is there?”

i dont know guys, there are so many words we get to call women to denigrade, humiliate, or dehumanize them.

wow. so. they dont have to ask for sex, just take whom ever, and then call those "girls" names for having sex. no problem in our culture today, no siree. what are us women griping and whining about?

Another told of a Facebook posting “in which hockey players boast about their sexual exploits,” referring to conquests as “kills.”

boys being boys.

when women address these issues we are shouted down this is not our reality. granted, only by a few. so there is that. thank you for the article.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)

2. “the perception that they need not seek consent for sexual contact.”

Reply to One_Life_To_Give (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:09 PM

Sep 2012

I think this mindset is growing in our culture, and not just with men, but women, too.

A female student told the task force that a player had shoved his hands down her pants at a party and refused to stop even as she was punching him. She did not report the incident to authorities because, she said, “that’s just what [BU hockey players] do.”

She's totally bought into the boys will be boys meme.

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

4. ah, but then we are hounded and ridiculed cause we dare to feel the need to educate. so i gotta ask

Reply to CrispyQ (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:33 PM

Sep 2012

why are there SOME men so opposed to educating not only our boys, but our girls this is unacceptable. are they bothered by losing the privilege of....“that’s just what do.”

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)

3. God, the longer you read it the worse it gets.

Reply to One_Life_To_Give (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:20 PM

Sep 2012

“You don’t ask (permission for sex) when you are drunk,” he told the task force, adding that he did not see how the actions of the two players charged last year constituted sexual assault.

That's called RAPE, asshole.

Another player used two slurs to describe women who “hook up with multiple guys,” then wondered, “What other word for them is there?”

How about... "women"?

I can't blame her, and it is a shame, but I get it. Honestly it took me years before I figured out this kind of behavior wasn't just something I had to "put up with" because I'm a woman. I thought it was just my lot in life.

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)

5. The same thing you call GUYS who hook up with multiple WOMEN

Reply to One_Life_To_Give (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:37 PM

Sep 2012

Why WHY is it that women get called whores and sluts but men just chuckle when they're engaging in the same exact behavior? When will it end??

I read this article to a FEMALE co-worker. She said, "If you don't want to be man-handled by a bunch of drunken frat boys, then don't go to frat parties!" Yes! A WOMAN said that!

And I said, so those young women weren't victims of LEGITIMATE rape, right? They asked for it by showing up at a party???

This type of story makes me sad. We've come so far and yet we haven't.

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

7. you might want to ask the woman about standing in a bar and a cop off duty sticking his hand up her

Reply to 1GirlieGirl (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:47 PM

Sep 2012

skirt. if it is the womans fault for standing in the bar.... she made the mans hand go up her skirt? just standing there is all it takes for permission for a man to stick a hand up a skirt?

where does it end. standing in a subway give permission for a man to stick hand up skirt?

is she safe, locked in her home, not going out?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021294023

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)

6. Horrible.

Reply to One_Life_To_Give (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:39 PM

Sep 2012

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