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ismnotwasm

(41,916 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:13 AM Mar 2013

The Sexual Fetish of Gay Marriage Opponents

As the Supreme Court prepares to hear Hollingsworth v. Perry and United States v. Windsor, opponents of same-sex marriage have scrambled to answer the central question: What is the government’s rational interest in preventing gays from marrying? The standard argument from moral disapproval was revoked by Romer v. Evans and Lawrence v. Texas. The argument that gay marriages undermine the family has been debunked by a decade of same-sex marriage in several countries. So, as Proposition 8 and DOMA wound their way through the courts, gay marriage opponents lit upon a more durable argument, seemingly grounded in science rather than animus or religion. Their case, presented most comprehensively by Princeton professor Robert P. George, is that only sex acts with a “dynamism toward reproduction”—that is, penile to vaginal intercourse—create true marriages and lead to legitimate child-rearing. Same-sex marriages, by this theory, are not “real” marriages, because they do not involve “organic bodily union.”
This argument puts gay marriage opponents in an awkward position. For years, they said gays were too libidinous and licentious to create stable marriages. Now, as proponents of gay marriage emphasize love, fidelity, and commitment, the right is fetishizing coitus.
The debate between marriage-as-love and marriage-as-coital-vehicle permeates the amici briefs that have flooded the court. George’s amicus—an abridged version of his book—pits the hallowed “conjugal” view of marriage against the destructive “revisionist” view. According to George, the revisionist view sees marriage as “essentially an emotional union, accompanied by consensual sexual activity.” The conjugal view, on the other hand, sees marriage as “begun by commitment and sealed by sexual intercourse.”
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What’s so crucial about heterosexual intercourse? According to George, it’s “completed in the acts by which new life is made” and therefore “is especially apt for and deepened by procreation, and calls for that broad sharing uniquely fit for family life.”


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/03/gay_marriage_and_sex_why_do_defenders_of_doma_and_prop_8_worship_coitus.html


Not only homophobic, but anti-choice, as this assumes pregnancy is the desired outcome sex. In otherwords, women should be makin' babies, and forget about those pesky reproductive rights. This is a dangerous argument for women. And typical disgusting bullshit toward Gays.

The arguement sounds ludicrous, but I've given up my ability to be surprised at legal arguments.

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The Sexual Fetish of Gay Marriage Opponents (Original Post) ismnotwasm Mar 2013 OP
Any anti gay ideology will also be against women's freedom of choice and of associations Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #1
Is it still an “organic bodily union” if you use condom or diaphragm or Viagra? DetlefK Mar 2013 #2
Good article. Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #3
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
1. Any anti gay ideology will also be against women's freedom of choice and of associations
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:18 AM
Mar 2013

The fetishist Francis, for example, libels gay people and claims women are unfit to serve in the profession in which he serves as chief hate monger.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
2. Is it still an “organic bodily union” if you use condom or diaphragm or Viagra?
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:23 AM
Mar 2013

"Hey sugar, wanna practice for a real marriage?"

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
3. Good article.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:46 AM
Mar 2013

Back in the day, I WISHED I had as much rompin' in the sheets as they THOUGHT I was having.

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