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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:41 AM Mar 2013

Rick Ross Thinks Rape Is a Punchline

B y now you have likely heard about Rick Ross’ controversial lyric on once-and future-struggling rapper Rocko’s new track “U.O.E.N.O” (NSFW): "Put molly all in her champagne, she ain’t even know it / I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain’t even know it.” Molly, of course, being a popular street drug that shares properties with what is commonly known as Ecstasy.

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I can write the script for what happens next. A number of rappers who’d rather get a feature on a Ross record than do the right thing will be awkwardly silent about the issue. The White boy rap writers who have so much to do with the relevance of Ross will remain mum as well. Outspoken advocates for women’s right-to-be-human will be outspoken. Folks will tweet “Father your sons” and find a way to blame Black single moms for the whole thing. A reminder that women buy rap records, so really, this is our entire fault anyway. And there will be the standard note that “Parents raise kids, rap does not raise kids.”

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What’s so scary about Ross’ line is that this is something that a good number of men and boys actually do. Maybe a rap lyric won’t inspire an impressionable young dude to go and try to flip a couple keys, but normalizing this sort of rape? I see it. I see it and it scares me.

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This is not just another terrible rap lyric to be dismissed. This is an important teachable moment for young men, boys and even some full-grown adults who don’t understand consent. Who don’t understand that yes, even the girl who brought the molly and the Magnums to the party can be a victim if she was not able to decide when and how they were used. THIS IS RAPE CULTURE—the global reality that was dismissed as a feminist talking point by so many men on this very site just recently.

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http://www.ebony.com/entertainment-culture/rick-ross-thinks-rape-is-a-punchline-999/1
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ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
2. What an asshole
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:47 PM
Mar 2013

There's been rape lyrics in rap before. I'm glad somebody is getting some pushback on it.

I like the smackdown in the first paragraph

isclaimer: I have been clear about my feelings about Rick Ross for years. To paraphrase ‘Pac, “F— Rick Ross as a record label, a staff and a MF— crew/And if you down with Rick Ross, then f— you, too.” The man is a marginally talented huckster who was lucky enough to find a massive audience that was either gullible or simply undiscerning enough not to care that the dude who’s supposed to be a 350-pound Miami drug kingpin was actually a corrections officer. And if it weren’t for a bunch of ghetto-fantasizing, pseudo-intellectual White boy rap bloggers who decided that Ross was the most important hip-hop act since Lil’ Wayne, I think he’d still be “hustling” loosies and porn mags to inmates.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
6. Yeah, I've known about the "ex-prison guard" thing for a while, as a follower of rap.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:09 PM
Mar 2013

The fact that he now raps about supposedly being a drug lord amuses me. What's not so amusing, however, are the lines quoted in the OP.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
4. My husband works with a group of guys who admit,
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

they don't care what kind of character their sports/movie/music heroes have - if they are good at something, that's all that matters & they will support them.



Good thing we never go to any company functions.

alp227

(32,006 posts)
5. You know what's hypocritical? Wanna bet many of the same ignorant f-wits who defended Daniel Tosh
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:25 PM
Mar 2013

over his rape joke are dissing Rick Ross as a perverted hack! Hell even a racial double standard too!

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
7. I don't defend either. I enjoy comedy and I enjoy rap music, but both those guys are massive dicks.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:10 PM
Mar 2013

nt

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
8. He responded;
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:34 PM
Mar 2013
The content of the track has caused controversy, but Ross says his rap has been misconstrued as he would never condone any kind of violence against women.

Speaking on radio station Q93.3, he says, "There are certain things you can't Tweet and certain things you want people to hear and I want to make sure this is clear... woman is the most precious gift known to man (sic). You understand.

"There was a misunderstanding with a lyric or a misinterpretation. The term rape wasn't used. I would never use the term rape in my records. Hip-Hop don't (sic) condone that, the streets don't condone that. Nobody condones that. I just want to reach out to all the queens on my timeline, the beautiful ladies that were reaching out to me... we don't condone rape and I'm not with that."


http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=799026

Such familiar logic....

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
10. Well if he didn't "condone rape" he came dangerously close to doing so.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 03:38 AM
Mar 2013

So at best, it's more "muddying of the waters" that helps no one and potentially harms many.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
11. The original article referred to teaching moments
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:09 AM
Mar 2013

I also like rap and comedy, although in rap I like powerful social messages in rap, in comedy I like a strong sense of the ironical. That being said I quit paying attention to both some in mainstream some time ago. So I'm no expert.

You're exactly right; muddying the waters is what he did, and he missed what could have been 'a teaching moment' not that I expected different from hm

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. He's more interested in protecting his ego than opening his eyes.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:03 AM
Mar 2013

So of course he went on the defensive, and ignored all those women whose opinions he fools himself into thinking he actually values.

Goddess forbid he actually recognized his own complicity in reinforcing rape culture.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
16. As you probably already heard, Reebok cancelled their endorsement deal with Rick Ross.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:31 PM
Apr 2013

If you'd like to thank them, here's a handy link.
http://act.weareultraviolet.org/act/thankyou_reebok

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