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ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:36 PM Jun 2014

George Will: Focus On Rape Has Made 'Victimhood A Coveted Status'

Well well, look at the, one of the more disgusting Republican assholes sounding just like certain posters around here

George Will on Friday became the latest conservative pundit to attempt to debunk sexual assault statistics, arguing that universities' efforts to address campus rape have made "victimhood a coveted status."

In a column for the Washington Post, Will argues that universities are basing their definition of sexual assault on a "Washington" education, which is leading to inflated statistics.

“They are learning that when they say campus victimizations are ubiquitous ('micro-aggressions,' often not discernible to the untutored eye, are everywhere), and that when they make victimhood a coveted status that confers privileges, victims proliferate," he wrote.

Will offers an anecdote from a student at Swarthmore College, in which a woman reported a rape after a former sexual partner wouldn't take no for an answer. Will implies that because the incident occurred "with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months," she wasn't sexually assaulted.

"I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep," the woman wrote about the encounter.

"Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped," Will wrote about the Swarthmore student. "Now the Obama administration is riding to the rescue of 'sexual assault' victims. It vows to excavate equities from the ambiguities of the hookup culture, this cocktail of hormones, alcohol and the faux sophistication of today’s prolonged adolescence of especially privileged young adults."

The conservative columnist then disputed certain aspects of the definition of sexual assault.

"Combine this with capacious definitions of sexual assault that can include not only forcible sexual penetration but also nonconsensual touching. Then add the doctrine that the consent of a female who has been drinking might not protect a male from being found guilty of rape," he wrote. "Then comes costly litigation against institutions that have denied due process to males they accuse of what society considers serious felonies."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/george-will-sexual-assault-statistics
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George Will: Focus On Rape Has Made 'Victimhood A Coveted Status' (Original Post) ismnotwasm Jun 2014 OP
Jackass lsewpershad Jun 2014 #1
If men need to learn that lesson, KitSileya Jun 2014 #3
Indeed BainsBane Jun 2014 #2
It doesn't make sense and it never will. ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #4
"Tell me how that makes sense? " exactly. i shake my head in the stupid. actually seabeyond Jun 2014 #5
It goes beyond stoicism BainsBane Jun 2014 #6
from personal experience i see rape differently than most. or a lot. the vocal. you would also seabeyond Jun 2014 #8
Very well said. redqueen Jun 2014 #12
Good grief! I think what we need to do is have a restriction on RW voters. Frustratedlady Jun 2014 #7
why did his syndicate print this tripe? just say no. sorry asshole. try again. pansypoo53219 Jun 2014 #9
Because a lot of rich, self-entitled white men wanted to read it. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #15
Whoa ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #10
Yet another d00d that will JoeyT Jun 2014 #11
Dear George. Kindly STFU. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #13
No surprise Ken Burch Jun 2014 #14

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
3. If men need to learn that lesson,
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:06 PM
Jun 2014

It shouldn't be at the expense of their loved ones. Let us instead say, 'I wonder if he would say the same if he was raped.'

Much more fair, no?

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
2. Indeed
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jun 2014

Some insist victimhood is identifying and fighting against oppression, whereas not being a victim is accepting it. Tell me how that makes sense? For them, not being a victim means maintaining a culture of silence. I call that identifying with and defending the abuser in ways that allow a culture of violence against women to prevail.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. "Tell me how that makes sense? " exactly. i shake my head in the stupid. actually
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jun 2014

arguing with people that tell me speaking out is the victimhood. taking it is being... stoic. or something.

hear them wimper

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
6. It goes beyond stoicism
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:28 PM
Jun 2014

to collaboration. One can personally be stoic, but when they seek to impose silence on others by attacking those who speak out, they perpetuate injustice

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. from personal experience i see rape differently than most. or a lot. the vocal. you would also
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:39 PM
Jun 2014

never hear me try to impose my perception on another.

the arrogance of that.

i hear ya.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. Good grief! I think what we need to do is have a restriction on RW voters.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:30 PM
Jun 2014

They have to prove they have successfully attended, completed and truly absorbed all the facts from a sex education/reproduction "adult" education class.

Throw Will in that group.

Not only are women equipped with some type of "sperm retardant" but they are also so lucky to get all that attention once they are raped. I'll bet that was high on their list of goals in life, too.

Idiots!

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
11. Yet another d00d that will
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jun 2014

gripe constantly about people claiming to be victims, while his last and his next gripe will be about how old male WASPs are the real victims.

Taken in context, the argument almost always boils down to "People claiming to be victimized detracts from my entirely imaginary victim status."

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. No surprise
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jun 2014

This is the same "pro-family" George Will who deserted the mother of his grown children(one of whom has Down's syndrome)in order to spend his declining years feebly dribbling his dwindling fluids into his new, much-younger trophy wife.

He was bound to go MRA at some point.

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