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Received this (unsolicited) in my DU Mailbox this morning (Original Post) boston bean Jun 2014 OP
Please send to Skinner. This poster has been I believe on 3 time outs since he joined which was seaglass Jun 2014 #1
I did alert on the DU mail. We'll see if it is taken seriously I suppose. boston bean Jun 2014 #4
when you alerted, did your pm disappear? i alerted on a pm taunting with the c word. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #11
Really? And he wasn't been banned from DU? boston bean Jun 2014 #12
nope. i alerted on the pm and within a small frame of time (i do not remember how long) the pm seabeyond Jun 2014 #13
I guess it's a good thing that I posted this here in the open. boston bean Jun 2014 #14
I think the poster was removed. Agschmid Jun 2014 #77
it would make sense he was kicked off. i checked. he was not. and a month later, still pming seabeyond Jun 2014 #78
What was the name of the poster? Agschmid Jun 2014 #79
cfldem. what this Op is about. lol. and jury, his name is already out there. in this OP. seabeyond Jun 2014 #81
Thanks. I thought they were banned? Agschmid Jun 2014 #84
the poster, cfldem was not removed CreekDog Jun 2014 #132
did you put a message into the alert box or just hit the alert button? Kali Jun 2014 #86
no. i always put a message. gonna go check pms now... nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #87
ha. i have never deleted a pm. just tried on another pm. pretty straight forward. seabeyond Jun 2014 #89
also, i figured, when it disappeared, that meant cfl was kicked off. as i assume they would be for seabeyond Jun 2014 #90
did you block PMs from him? maybe that is why it disappeared? Kali Jun 2014 #91
no. i did not block. i have not blocked anyone, ever, even physically threatening me in a pm. seabeyond Jun 2014 #92
OK this is strange Kali Jun 2014 #94
coolest. yes. that is what i got. removed and that message. and yes, he was flagged when in seabeyond Jun 2014 #95
so. he felt the need to pm you too, with an insult toward feminists. hmmmm. seabeyond Jun 2014 #96
I fear the outcome of this. Based on past experience, I don't trust that Squinch Jun 2014 #19
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2014 #45
Plus he's yucking it up at the new site BainsBane Jun 2014 #53
The one I alerted on disappeared immediately. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #62
Perhaps we should make copies before we alert BainsBane Jun 2014 #63
I blocked him. I know how this game is played. redqueen Jun 2014 #65
dont want to be raped? make sure you do everything so you are not raped. no crying victim. silly seabeyond Jun 2014 #66
Start a thread collecting all of them. Dr. Strange Jun 2014 #133
copy, paste, alert... boston bean Jun 2014 #67
it happened to you too? Kali Jun 2014 #88
Earlier today he was on a 5 hide time out. boston bean Jun 2014 #98
The status probably changed due to alerts on PMs BainsBane Jun 2014 #101
Admins get those email alerts. boston bean Jun 2014 #102
flag is computer generated BainsBane Jun 2014 #103
I know nothing about email alerts flagging people for review boston bean Jun 2014 #104
I know someone once got flagged for sending several PMs BainsBane Jun 2014 #105
You are telling me that the system automatically changes a members status boston bean Jun 2014 #106
I know that flag is an automated process BainsBane Jun 2014 #107
Flag is an automated function for two hides in a twenty four hour period. I am aware. boston bean Jun 2014 #111
As I said BainsBane Jun 2014 #116
Had no idea that was a software capability. boston bean Jun 2014 #128
i love using pm when i am kicked off du. i talk to lots of people when i am not allowed to post. seabeyond Jun 2014 #108
that is a tough one Kali Jun 2014 #109
I hope that earns the sender a granite cookie. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #2
I did send an alert to the admin from my inbox. boston bean Jun 2014 #3
I'm glad you reported it. TDale313 Jun 2014 #6
Timed outs can send PMs and vote in polls /Flagged for review is total lockout. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #5
Yeah, I guess you are right. He recommended this thread. boston bean Jun 2014 #7
Some people crave attention no matter if it is positive or negative. They have bought into their own Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #8
or it's plain old internet stalking.... boston bean Jun 2014 #10
Exactly. And I definitely consider the PM to Cross A Line. I have noticed that a lot of TMG regulars Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #22
Clearly it is this. Way too much attention and energy devoted to a group he disagrees with, Squinch Jun 2014 #25
I would be happy if they were some kindness shown to me and make it so this boston bean Jun 2014 #34
administration is aware he sends us these emails to taunt. i guess alerting them they seabeyond Jun 2014 #9
What is his name on Discussionist sea? There are so many nasty misogynists over there it's hard to seaglass Jun 2014 #15
"President of the SeaBeyond fan club" sillly me to think administration even went the distance of seabeyond Jun 2014 #16
and he is watching this thread closely, in pure giggles i am sure, having responded so quickly seabeyond Jun 2014 #17
Somethings wrong where someone can send DU mails to harass. boston bean Jun 2014 #20
and to simply step in and take the pm out of my box is a bit offensive. i am more like you seabeyond Jun 2014 #24
They just removed the email from your inbox, but not him from DU. Where he is free to continue on. boston bean Jun 2014 #27
again. i look at it as you do. respectfully, but yes. stating it out loud. transparency for all seabeyond Jun 2014 #28
Fucking nauseating. redqueen Jun 2014 #44
wow - this place is shit. n/t seaglass Jun 2014 #18
Jury Results: Chathamization Jun 2014 #35
Juror # 5 call HoF a sub group and states that one of us in the "sub group" are boston bean Jun 2014 #36
I love jury comments - don't you? They are so telling. seaglass Jun 2014 #37
i picked up on 7 that all but stated we are suppose to take this shit quietly. and ya. i read 5 seabeyond Jun 2014 #38
Juror # 7 has NO issues at all with HoF! LOL boston bean Jun 2014 #40
I am not sure if I ever seen DU united as One. Even threads that get a high number of Recs have Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #73
Eh, sorry, that's my mistake. Chathamization Jun 2014 #55
Ah! okay! Thanks so much for the clarification! boston bean Jun 2014 #58
thanks for the clarification. thanks for the jury post. i kinda figured it was a mix up. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #59
Yes, thanks Chatamization. n/t seaglass Jun 2014 #68
I took it that way but, thanks for clairfying. I am pretty sure it is someone who lurks here rather Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #69
"Does CFLDem still have alerting privileges?" of course he does. seabeyond Jun 2014 #71
LOL Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #72
be careful with the laughing. civility, you know. lol. have a god day. i am off to play. going seabeyond Jun 2014 #74
I am jealous! Peagreen with Envy! This is my weekend to work. *sigh* have fun, sea Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #75
We have such a large fan club BainsBane Jun 2014 #97
If you alert on yourself it goes to admin. Agschmid Jun 2014 #80
That person did not mean it as I took it. Please see upthread. boston bean Jun 2014 #82
Whoops... Agschmid Jun 2014 #83
Him again? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #21
"there's no place like discussionist, there's no place like discussionist... seabeyond Jun 2014 #26
Wow Stargazer09 Jun 2014 #23
This whole week has been a repeat of junior high. CrispyQ Jun 2014 #42
the tell, is it seems like we are being told how "smoothly" discussionist is running. totally seabeyond Jun 2014 #43
"ignoring the rampant misogyny. i think that says a lot." redqueen Jun 2014 #46
Yes, because we all know that rampant misogyny is not uncivil. n/t seaglass Jun 2014 #47
right. speaking out against it? ya. but, you are right. in some's view. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #51
Smoothly because anything goes BainsBane Jun 2014 #99
ya. lol. that is what i thought. a board for the menz, and the women that do not care they seabeyond Jun 2014 #110
PS, Boston, I think this should be cross posted in General Discussion. Squinch Jun 2014 #29
If you would like to, I have no issue with it! boston bean Jun 2014 #30
another point. another example. hof gets blamed for any and all shit. yet... we do not post the seabeyond Jun 2014 #31
no doubt some think I've committed a huge atrocity by posting this. boston bean Jun 2014 #32
it probably has been alerted on, lol. you are right. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #33
He sent me a couple. ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #39
Meanwhile Bains got a hide for a fucking smiley. redqueen Jun 2014 #48
really, can you post or send the link to that? boston bean Jun 2014 #50
I don't know how I'd search for it. redqueen Jun 2014 #56
i saw it around. i did not see the original. until after i heard talk about it. baines.... seabeyond Jun 2014 #60
Seriously? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #52
It was a couple of weeks ago BainsBane Jun 2014 #57
Please do ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #70
This was weeks ago. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #61
Civility is NOT what this is about. seabeyond Jun 2014 #54
Yep. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #64
OK.... that's rather disturbing.... alittlelark Jun 2014 #41
if my vote counts at all noiretextatique Jun 2014 #49
So if this kind of stuff doesn't get the sender booted sybylla Jun 2014 #76
This PM is creepy and disgusting. octoberlib Jun 2014 #85
Yup. Agschmid Jun 2014 #100
Excellent idea! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #112
If admin responds. Many times there is just no response. boston bean Jun 2014 #113
I've noticed that, but think this is important enough to warrant a response Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #114
Yeah that was my thought. MadrasT Jun 2014 #115
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #117
Hey look - cfl dem created a dummy account just to stop in and say hi! Sheldon Cooper Jun 2014 #118
And I missed the entertainment. MadrasT Jun 2014 #134
Like this? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #119
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #120
Damn, Skippy.... The Magistrate Jun 2014 #121
LoL ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #124
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #122
My daughter spend a year in Afghanistan ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #123
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #125
Right ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #127
did a little boy have to come in here and prove his power and dominance over us "little wimminz" seabeyond Jun 2014 #129
Yup ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #130
There's a lot of 4th graders stuck in sufrommich Jun 2014 #93
WTF is he on about? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #131
He's done. seaglass Jun 2014 #135
Excellent BainsBane Jun 2014 #136

seaglass

(8,170 posts)
1. Please send to Skinner. This poster has been I believe on 3 time outs since he joined which was
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:02 AM
Jun 2014

not that long ago. He is a liar and a disruptor and does not deserve to be welcomed back. If Skinner needs evidence to make a case, I will do the research.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. nope. i alerted on the pm and within a small frame of time (i do not remember how long) the pm
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jun 2014

simply, .... disappeared.

i guess that is their answer. hide the offensive.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
14. I guess it's a good thing that I posted this here in the open.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jun 2014

Maybe they will take a closer look. If they don't, well... we'll just continue on without a doubt that they don't really give a shit how women are treated here.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
77. I think the poster was removed.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jun 2014

So when they removed the poster the PM also was removed, that makes sense to me.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
78. it would make sense he was kicked off. i checked. he was not. and a month later, still pming
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jun 2014

feminists, taunting us. and skinner is still getting alerts from us in this group getting the pms. last i checked. he is still here.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
81. cfldem. what this Op is about. lol. and jury, his name is already out there. in this OP.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jun 2014

no more a call out then every post in this thread.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
132. the poster, cfldem was not removed
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jun 2014

so let me see if i'm understanding this...

his pm's to other people had to be removed, he's flagged, anything else?

oh yeah, it's even been discussed by the Admins.

HOWEVER...he's not been PPR'd.

Skinner, are you waiting for him to do something worse?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12596139

Kali

(54,990 posts)
86. did you put a message into the alert box or just hit the alert button?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jun 2014

I ask because I think you might have hit "delete this message" by accident instead of the alert button. PMs don't disappear normally when you alert on them. Maybe admins never got that one???

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
89. ha. i have never deleted a pm. just tried on another pm. pretty straight forward.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jun 2014

now i am more sure i did not accidentally delete. deletes happen immediately. the pm did not get deleted for a couple hours or more. i was able to go back to it and copy and paste. others had gotten pms or something and it was brought up. so i posted the pm i got and said i had alerted on it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
90. also, i figured, when it disappeared, that meant cfl was kicked off. as i assume they would be for
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jun 2014

taunting feminists with the c word. ya know. at the time, seeing it disappear, i checked status and he was still du, just couldnt post cause time out.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
91. did you block PMs from him? maybe that is why it disappeared?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jun 2014

so you just tried another one and it disappeared?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
92. no. i did not block. i have not blocked anyone, ever, even physically threatening me in a pm.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jun 2014

which is silly with anonymous posting. lol.

no. i did not block him. i did look at one of tuesdays pm to see the set up. saw delete at bottom next to alert. hit delete. the post disappeared immediately. not even an... are you sure.

if that had happened with cfl, it would have been immediate. it was not immediate. later i was able to go back and copy/paste for a discussion. when i next went back to copy and paste, it was gone. i figured that administration kicked him off. they did not. appears they only take the pm out of my box. hence the oddity. and really, a little dissatisfaction that this is their answer to harassment.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
94. OK this is strange
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

he just sent one to me - (mildly insulting you) so I alerted to show admins the behavior and to test this disappearing "thing" and indeed it disappeared. I copied it first and sent it back to myself. also right when I did that I had a "name removed" unread PM in my inbox.

Message auto-removed

Mail Message
This mail message was automatically deleted by our software because the account that sent it is no longer eligible to send mail on this site. Thank you for your understanding.


his profile says flagged now but I am pretty sure it said something else when he got his 5th hide, so maybe something just happened with his account - maybe automatically? I don't think admins are around on the weekend. the "mechanics" of this is kind of confusing. I wonder what is going on. some of these PMs seem like a fine reason to ban a disruptor.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
95. coolest. yes. that is what i got. removed and that message. and yes, he was flagged when in
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jun 2014

checked. i figured administration had flagged for offensive pm adn would kick off. they did not. and i guess that message about no longer pming goes away after administration checks it all out, and decides to unflag. cause he can now pm me.

interesting.

Squinch

(50,774 posts)
19. I fear the outcome of this. Based on past experience, I don't trust that
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

the right thing will happen, that this poster whose sole purpose seems to be to antagonize and insult, will be banned. I fear he will be allowed to continue this and nothing will be done.

If he were so dedicated to antagonizing other groups, he would certainly be banned. But not HoF.

Please let us know what happens.

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
53. Plus he's yucking it up at the new site
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

He doesn't need to bother people here with unsolicited PMs. I've gotten a couple from him. I never responded. One I alerted on.

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
63. Perhaps we should make copies before we alert
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

I never noticed if they disappear, but it sucks that we don't have a record of them. That isn't the case when you alert on jury results.

redqueen

(115,096 posts)
65. I blocked him. I know how this game is played.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:52 PM
Jun 2014

The responsibility for stopping harassment is on us and us alone. No different here than anywhere else, obviously.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
66. dont want to be raped? make sure you do everything so you are not raped. no crying victim. silly
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jun 2014

american.

so right wing argument.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
67. copy, paste, alert...
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jun 2014

Transparency is what it's all about.

Just removing the ugly so it can't be seen is obviously not the solution in this case. I'm sorry to hear I am not the first who alerted admin and he is free to continue pm'ing inappropriate messages to others.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
88. it happened to you too?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jun 2014

(I mean the message disappearing) that is weird. I am going to post this to ATA.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
98. Earlier today he was on a 5 hide time out.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jun 2014

Now he is flagged for review. His status changed somehow.

The email he sent to me is essentially gone, here is what it looks like:


Name removed

Message auto-removed

Mail Message

This mail message was automatically deleted by our software because the account that sent it is no longer eligible to send mail on this site. Thank you for your understanding.


So, it is possible with his status changing to flagged this is normal procedure for emails that he sent to now look like this. However, I am not sure if this is the same case for RQ or seabeyond. However, I wish if someone wasn't allowed to post they weren't allowed to send emails, not just when flagged for review. I don't like it that I now have no record of the email he sent to me.

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
101. The status probably changed due to alerts on PMs
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Most people don't abuse their PM privileges while on suspension. I don't think that needs to be removed to account for one person. The problem is specific to him.

He can't send PMs while flagged. It also means the admins. need to look at his case and decide if they want him around.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
102. Admins get those email alerts.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jun 2014

So, if they changed his status to flagged, why not just boot him the hell off????????


boston bean

(36,186 posts)
104. I know nothing about email alerts flagging people for review
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jun 2014

automatically with no review.

That could cause a hell of a lot of issues.

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
105. I know someone once got flagged for sending several PMs
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jun 2014

which weren't even alerted on. This is someone who doesn't get hides, so it was a stupid thing. I'm not sure if they have since adjusted the software.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
106. You are telling me that the system automatically changes a members status
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jun 2014

when people alert on their DU mails?

I would assume that since the alerts go directly to admin, they make the decision and that it is not something that automatically occurs.

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
107. I know that flag is an automated process
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:03 PM
Jun 2014

Two hides in 12 hours, the computer puts you on flag. Flag is not manual. Firstly, the administrators aren't around much on weekends, and if they had decided to do something about him, he would simply be banned. So there has to be something related to PMs that got him flagged since he isn't able to post. How exactly that works, I don't know.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
111. Flag is an automated function for two hides in a twenty four hour period. I am aware.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 07:03 PM
Jun 2014

Are you stating there is an automatic function for alerts sent on private DU Mail?

I don't think so. I think someone probably had to switch someone to flagged for review. Which begs the question, why just flag, why not further action.

That is all I am saying. Unless you are telling me for sure that there is some automatic mechanism that puts people on flagged for review due to alerts sent on private du emails, that go directly to admins....

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
116. As I said
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:02 AM
Jun 2014

I know someone who got flagged for sending a certain number of PMs. The system did it automatically.
Beyond that you'd need to ask in ATA.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
128. Had no idea that was a software capability.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jun 2014

Good to know. I think Kali probably asked in ATA. I'll try to remember to look to see if she gets an answer.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
108. i love using pm when i am kicked off du. i talk to lots of people when i am not allowed to post.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:10 PM
Jun 2014

i do not abuse the privilege either. i agree with baines. i would not like to see me denied ability to communicate with du when penalized for five hides.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
109. that is a tough one
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jun 2014

I know I talked to someone via PMs when they were on a time-out - and they aren't any kind of troll at all - so that is a two edged thing. I think it would be better if the alerted on PMs had a real effect (like a PPR!) rather than just disappearing into the ether with no apparent action.

I suspect when admins return this will be finally taken care of.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
6. I'm glad you reported it.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jun 2014

Totally inappropriate, IMO. And yes, this poster needs more than just a time out.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
5. Timed outs can send PMs and vote in polls /Flagged for review is total lockout.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:21 AM
Jun 2014

CFLDem is a nasty piece of work. I would call him the T word but, unless the Admin see it that way then I don't want to chance a hide.

He is not sincere. His sarcasm and disdain for DU literally drips from each post he makes.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
8. Some people crave attention no matter if it is positive or negative. They have bought into their own
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jun 2014

PR = Any time their name is in print it is a good thing.

This would be like me recc-ing "My Fan Club" thread over in TMG

Instead, I trashed the group and, it no longer shows up in my scroll.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
10. or it's plain old internet stalking....
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jun 2014

to exert control over others by trying making web spaces uncomfortable others.

This one here is a bit overt to say the least, so you may be right, that he is looking for any attention, that it's negative, doesn't matter. Sort of like a three year old demanding attention by doing bad things. Hasn't yet learned that positive attention is better. Yet, some of the postings can give you a real insight into the mind. Read the transparency page....

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
22. Exactly. And I definitely consider the PM to Cross A Line. I have noticed that a lot of TMG regulars
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

have boundary issues. They have no boundaries. I am not sure they even understand the concept.

Squinch

(50,774 posts)
25. Clearly it is this. Way too much attention and energy devoted to a group he disagrees with,
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jun 2014

and now he's PM stalking individual members? The kindest thing the admins could do to this one is to force him to step away from his computer and go find, um, other life interests.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
34. I would be happy if they were some kindness shown to me and make it so this
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jun 2014

poster can't harass women any longer on DU. He has a place over on discussionist where he can be as misogynist as he would like.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. administration is aware he sends us these emails to taunt. i guess alerting them they
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

merely banned him from pming me anymore. and that is all.

he posts on disc, and says the nastiest things about women. i guess he is still welcome on du.

seaglass

(8,170 posts)
15. What is his name on Discussionist sea? There are so many nasty misogynists over there it's hard to
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jun 2014

tell one from another.

On edit - I don't expect you to really tell me and please don't - too much of a hide risk.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. "President of the SeaBeyond fan club" sillly me to think administration even went the distance of
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jun 2014

stopping him from pm. i guess nothing came of him taunting me with the c word, only the lost pm.

what a way to handle the issue.

take away the offending harassment and conclude, job well done.

just got another pm to let me know he could pm

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
17. and he is watching this thread closely, in pure giggles i am sure, having responded so quickly
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jun 2014

to my posts....

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
20. Somethings wrong where someone can send DU mails to harass.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

I suppose admin will say, well you can block him from sending you mail and you won't ever have to read his du mails.

However, I think that is cowardly. I for one would like to know what someone sends to me, so I know what I am dealing with. I will choose whether to respond or not after being able to read what they write, thank you!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. and to simply step in and take the pm out of my box is a bit offensive. i am more like you
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jun 2014

not easily bothered threatened or intimidated. i would prefer to keep the info, since administration chooses to do nothing, to use in later discussions when it is relevant. i do not have that option now, cause administration felt the answer was simply to hide the offense.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
27. They just removed the email from your inbox, but not him from DU. Where he is free to continue on.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jun 2014

well, most people don't find this to be acceptable, whether admin does or not. I know just thinking that women would be afforded just a tad bit of protection from this shit, may just be too much to ask.

We'll see. DU is all about transparency and I think admin would agree it that they are part and parcel of that transparency for good or bad.

That is why I chose to make it public. They can do what they want. But at least all will know what it is they will or will not do.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
28. again. i look at it as you do. respectfully, but yes. stating it out loud. transparency for all
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

i feel that should be acceptable.

i read a post in ATA yesterday. someone asking to tighten up misogynist issues in TOS. with elections coming up of a woman, wouldnt we want to tighten up the guidelines.

skinner said something like... (and i will get it if anyone wants it).... this is not about what skinner thinks, but the community.

so basically, what i heard was if the community is into misogyny, then that is what du will be.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
35. Jury Results:
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jun 2014

On Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:04 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

wow - this place is shit. n/t
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=45212

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Complaining about DU

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:12 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: In the thread's context, the opinion is not rude, etc. I have never made a comment about the motives of alerters before now, but this time I will say that this appears to be a nuisance or stalking alert.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Makes sense in the context of the thread (which isn't in GD, but a small subgroup). Also, wouldn't surprise me if the alerter isn't someone that's a poster in that subgroup.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is complaining about DU, but that is the unofficial SOP of HOF.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
36. Juror # 5 call HoF a sub group and states that one of us in the "sub group" are
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jun 2014

probably alerting on ourselves! WTF, am I reading that wrong?

But thank you for the leave vote!

Sub group??????

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
38. i picked up on 7 that all but stated we are suppose to take this shit quietly. and ya. i read 5
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

the way you did.

i figured poster confusing. talking another subgroup

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
40. Juror # 7 has NO issues at all with HoF! LOL
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jun 2014

I guess it is only those who do have an issue with us who can speak.

I have a new saying... Since we are perpetually accused of doing what no man or woman has been able to do prior to the the existence of HoF.

Divide the ALWAYS Undivided DU.

Quite a feat... NOT.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
73. I am not sure if I ever seen DU united as One. Even threads that get a high number of Recs have
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jun 2014

detractors posting in them with an opposite viewpoint.

Good heavens we can not even decide between puppies or kittens!

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
55. Eh, sorry, that's my mistake.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

I tend to think of DU as being Groups (Gender & Orientation) -> Subgroups (History of Feminism), but you're right, they're Topics (Gender & Orientation) -> Groups (History of Feminism). The point I was trying to make is that on the smaller forums you expect the conversations to be different from those on places like General Discussion (where I first assumed the post was).

"Also, wouldn't surprise me if the alerter isn't someone that's a poster in that subgroup." -> Was saying that it wouldn't surprise me if the alerter was an outsider ("isn't someone that's a poster&quot , but you're right, that could be read the opposite way as well.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
69. I took it that way but, thanks for clairfying. I am pretty sure it is someone who lurks here rather
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jun 2014

than someone who regularly posts here in HoF.

Does CFLDem still have alerting privileges? If so, he could very well have been the alerter.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
74. be careful with the laughing. civility, you know. lol. have a god day. i am off to play. going
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jun 2014

to an outdoor play in the canyon tonight. the best.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
21. Him again?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

I thought he went away. And yes you can send email while in limbo. And CFLDem, if you are talking about the current rage for punctuation innuendo and in a sexual capacity, the answer would be Gay men and straight women.

Now tap your heels together 3 times and say "there's no place like discussionist, there's no place like discussionist...

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
26. "there's no place like discussionist, there's no place like discussionist...
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jun 2014

you are funny. we do not get to see this side of you often. too funny. not enough coffee yet, and still i chuckle.

CrispyQ

(36,231 posts)
42. This whole week has been a repeat of junior high.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jun 2014

I take that back - the boys in my junior high were not as immature as some of the shit I've seen this week. I'm embarrassed to tell people I come here from last weeks thread titles. I have not used the hide thread feature as often as this week.

I will not be buying hearts at DU anymore & I find DISC even more appalling than this place.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
43. the tell, is it seems like we are being told how "smoothly" discussionist is running. totally
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

ignoring the rampant misogyny. i think that says a lot.

and the point of jr high, boys will be boys. honestly. only certain boys, raised certain ways. cause that is not the reality of many boys i know and see, listen to and watch.

redqueen

(115,096 posts)
46. "ignoring the rampant misogyny. i think that says a lot."
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

You're damn right it does.

Speaks fucking volumes.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
110. ya. lol. that is what i thought. a board for the menz, and the women that do not care they
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:16 PM
Jun 2014

are dissed as a gender, talked down to, denigrated.... then it is very smooth. certainly no headache for them. i agree. do women post in that forum?

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
30. If you would like to, I have no issue with it!
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

It certainly goes along with all the other discussions.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
31. another point. another example. hof gets blamed for any and all shit. yet... we do not post the
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jun 2014

sexist bullshit, or antagonize with offensive pms.

was again. we sit here minding our own business and it is the misogynist assholes poking with a stick

then if there is any kind of reaction. the horrors. look at those hof women.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
32. no doubt some think I've committed a huge atrocity by posting this.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jun 2014

And that it is my fault that I am getting unsolicited du mails of this nature.

Probably has been alerted on for all I know.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
39. He sent me a couple.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jun 2014

I just thought "what an idiot" And yes we can talk shit about someone on review, well I don't know about starting a new thread, but Skinner said this in ATA

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12596090

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
60. i saw it around. i did not see the original. until after i heard talk about it. baines....
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

can let you know, i am sure.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
52. Seriously?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

I know there were a bunch of stupid punctuation threads, I was at work the last three days, so I just peeked--And she got a hide after some of the dumbass shit I saw?

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
57. It was a couple of weeks ago
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jun 2014

I can send you the details if you like. I won't post the links here for fear of another hide.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
70. Please do
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:14 PM - Edit history (1)

I just hid another punctuation thread, I just don't want to deal with too much stupid today, I've been working a lot and with some very sad situations

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
54. Civility is NOT what this is about.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

being one that gets hides, flags, and kicked off. every time i hear it, it is like a big old belly laugh at me... for sure.

meh

but, it is what it is.

sybylla

(8,464 posts)
76. So if this kind of stuff doesn't get the sender booted
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

Then maybe everyone needs to take it into their own hands. The minute you get crap like this, alert, then copy it to a post just like this.

Everyone can then act appropriately - block the offender, make them honorary members of the teeny peeny club, or whatever won't get you tombstoned.

On the other hand, if you're getting tombstoned for highlighting another poster's misogyny (or other misbehavior), then maybe this isn't the place for any of us to be anymore.

In fact, I'd like to see that this is getting taken care of before I give another dime to DU.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
85. This PM is creepy and disgusting.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jun 2014

I would post every pm you get from this guy in ATA to make sure everybody sees them , along with Skinner's response to them.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
113. If admin responds. Many times there is just no response.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 08:38 PM
Jun 2014

So, the post sits there and no one knows what is written.

Rhiannon12866

(203,006 posts)
114. I've noticed that, but think this is important enough to warrant a response
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jun 2014

Sending offensive PMs is clearly something the admins frown on.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
115. Yeah that was my thought.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jun 2014

Somebody is way overdue for a PPR.

I would like to say I can't believe the bullshit that goes on here, but it is just more par for the course.

Fucking grade school bullshit, frat boy bullshit, good old boy bullshit.

Same old same old.

BOOBIES!!!!!!!!!! NIPPLES!!!!!!!!!!! Hur hur hur. Yuk yuk yuk.

Grow up already.

Idiots.

Response to MadrasT (Reply #115)

Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #119)

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
121. Damn, Skippy....
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jun 2014

I think we can safely award the 'Most Fucked-Up Post Of The Year' trophy safely here, even though there are still six months to go....

Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #119)

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
123. My daughter spend a year in Afghanistan
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jun 2014

And yeah, we'll fight them. So will my SIL and my son. So will other female soldiers

You think you're scary little boy?

Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #123)

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
126. Right
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jun 2014

Obama would kick your pathetic ass Child.

Little boy, poor little boy. I fought on the street here. My children fought over there, and here you are an impotent little thing with no power at all.

Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #126)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
129. did a little boy have to come in here and prove his power and dominance over us "little wimminz"
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jun 2014

silly boy. needs to go hide under mammas aprons, from the mean ole feminists.....

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
130. Yup
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jun 2014

And show off big guns and armored cars. Because he knows everyone on DU personally and exactly what we have or haven't done, presumably because we're feminists. I bet he thinks every post here is by a female too.

Well you can't fix stupid or mommy issues.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
93. There's a lot of 4th graders stuck in
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jun 2014

adult bodies here,the threads with drawings of body parts with the resulting giggles was cringeworthy.It doesn't surprise me in the least that there was an attempt to draw a feminist into it,that's why crap like that gets posted in the first place. That being said,if your stalker doesn't get the boot for that,nothing will and he no doubt knows that.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
131. WTF is he on about?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:39 AM
Jun 2014

Being attracted to the female body sure as hell doesn't necessitate acting like a 7th-grader.

seaglass

(8,170 posts)
135. He's done.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jun 2014

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On edit: and I noticed because I now have an opening on my Jury Blacklist

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