The way some do "after the fact" abortions? I often wonder that especially with the crispy critter news stories every summer...

the consequences of our gun culture.

Please put this man in prison for about ten years so all the other people stroking their substitute penis will at least check before they blow their load through a child's brain.

The man is obviously not qualified to own guns.

but he also needs to do prison time.

at least it would slow down this sort of "oops"

But not STUPID? They need to check for IQ.


WTF?

on shooting, but on the manual

This is happening more and more often because folks know there are no ramifications for unintended/intended homicide when it plays out like this. We have no idea whether this man staged this incident, but even an idiot would just pop the gun open first before cleaning it to empty it out.

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Just like good samaritan first aiders, you're protected from lawsuit unless you exceed your skill level. Then you are liable.

If you own a gun, and don't know how to handle it, you are guilty for any injuries or deaths caused by you exceeding your skill set.

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Once family members are incarcerated in a similar manner to criminals, when these accidents occur, they'll diminish.

Until that fear is ingrained in all gun owners, they'll continue to act in a reckless manner.

and it's possible it is staged, but stuff like this happens all the time. People shoot themselves cleaning guns. They managed to leave their guns in positions where the dog sets it off. The fact is the world is full of idiots, and guns make them deadly idiots.

...too close to the trigger? Highly likely.

Last I heard, no single person was directly responsible for killing someone by casting a vote.

Discuss how to enact progressive gun control reform in a supportive environment. The group serves as a safe haven in which to mobilize supporters in support of measures reducing gun violence by changing laws, culture and practice at the municipal, state, and federal levels. While there is no single solution to the tragic epidemic of gun violence, members agree that more guns are not the solution to gun violence, and are expected to be supportive of the policies of progressive gun control reform organizations.

I just hate to see this group turn into another Gungeon where everyone is trying to one up the other side with tragic events. I support reasonable gun control but we need discussion as to what's reasonable.

Again, Thank You.

Feel free to send an SOP Alert next time.

I very seldom alert except for personal attacks. Have a great day.

An SOP an alert is because you think a thread is not in compliance with the SOP and goes to the hosts of the forum or group in this case.

That's the advantage of groups. We're separated from the larger DU community so people don't have to be confronted with our posts, which in this case is about the effects of the proliferation of guns.

I was talking to a guy even older than me a few years ago. He had a cast on his left hand and I asked him what happened. He told me he shot himself while cleaning his handgun. He then told me he had been an NRA safety instructor for 36 years.

Guns can be very dangerous even in the hands of an expert. Now think about all the people with no training in gun safety and handling that go out and buy a gun everyday.

An "expert" opens the action and verifies chamber and mag well clear before proceeding.
There is no such thing as an "Accident" with a gun. Only Ignorance and Negligence

And both piss me off.

Experts are also prone to mistakes.

Its negligence.
"Keep your booger hook off the bang switch till ready to shoot"
Modern firearms simply don't go bang without something on the trigger.

I am also an NRA safety instructor and rso.
I have zero tolerance for "mistakes".

If someone makes a mistake, people get killed.
Sorry... just the way I feel.

against mandatory background checks for all sales is also a mistake and people are getting killed because of it. Sorry, people in this group feel that way.

Is your point that a background check would have prevented this accident?
Seems to me I am being far harsher on this guy than you are.

Look all I was trying to do was inform you all about my thoughts on supposed "accidents".
The guy was negligent and deserves to go to prison.