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Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:04 PM Jun 2014

Another Responsible Gun Owner Kills Baby Sister With His New Rifle

A responsible, gun owning Kentucky mom stepped outside, leaving her 5-year-old son alone with his new birthday present — a brand new, shiny loaded .22-cal. rifle — and his 2-year-old sister.

Unfortunately, mom was outside just long enough for her son to fatally shoot his sister, Caroline Sparks, with his new present.

Kentucky State Police Trooper Billy Gregory says that the shooting has been ruled an accident. “It’s just one of those nightmares,” he said, “a quick thing that happens when you turn your back.”

He added that in the area it is not uncommon for parents to give their young children weapons. “In this part of the country, it’s not uncommon for a 5-year-old to have a gun or for a parent to pass one down to their kid,” he said.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/another-responsible-gun-owner-kills-baby


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Another Responsible Gun Owner Kills Baby Sister With His New Rifle (Original Post) Electric Monk Jun 2014 OP
A child under the age of 10 flamin lib Jun 2014 #1
+1 In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #2
Giving children deadly weapons, OR, leaving them alone in the presence of deadly northoftheborder Jun 2014 #3
It just makes me physically ill when I hear of shooting like this. Arkansas Granny Jun 2014 #4
And apparently it was God's will that the 5 year old will have to live with this Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #9
Why are the guns always loaded? Do they think 'The Night of the Living Dead' is reality? freshwest Jun 2014 #5
Another death directly caused by billh58 Jun 2014 #6
Do they have guns with Spongebob on them yet? xfundy Jun 2014 #7
How about this? billh58 Jun 2014 #15
Daddys like to introduce young kids into gun culture. Hoyt Jun 2014 #8
I suppose the next step defacto7 Jun 2014 #10
she killed her kid jimmy the one Jun 2014 #11
how can that be called an accident?! barbtries Jun 2014 #12
Thanks for dropping by, and welcome. billh58 Jun 2014 #13
thank you billh58 barbtries Jun 2014 #14

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
1. A child under the age of 10
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jun 2014

cannot learn to sail an 8' dingy because they don't have the ambidextrous ability to use both hands at one time or the capacity to recognize risks and environmental conditions.

I cannot believe that parents would give a lethal weapon to children this young or that the gun lobby, including the NRA, would promote such marketing.

It is unconscionable.

northoftheborder

(7,569 posts)
3. Giving children deadly weapons, OR, leaving them alone in the presence of deadly
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jun 2014

weapons should be against the law, and parents should be held guilty of negligence to the minor child. Such incidents are not "accidents".

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
4. It just makes me physically ill when I hear of shooting like this.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jun 2014

I just about gag when I hear statements like this:

The family, while upset, is happy that little Caroline is in a “better place.”

"It was God’s will. It was her time to go, I guess,” grandmother Linda Riddle told WLEX. “I just know she’s in heaven right now and I know she’s in good hands with the Lord.”

http://aattp.org/woman-says-it-was-gods-will-that-5-year-old-boy-accidentally-shot-2-year-old-granddaughter-video/

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
9. And apparently it was God's will that the 5 year old will have to live with this
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:16 PM
Jun 2014

for the rest of his days.

I'm happy for the family that they take comfort in believing that this little girl is in the hands of the Lord but I really wish they would question why God put such guilt on the other child.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Why are the guns always loaded? Do they think 'The Night of the Living Dead' is reality?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:26 PM
Jun 2014

If the boy was going to be taught to go hunting, why not wait until outdoors to load it up?

What was he hunting in the house? Or even worse, did he find it?

It's my question to all of the city slickers with the open carry fetish. It's one thing to have your gun ready in the woods to shoot some dinner.

What are they hunting for in the city? What are they hunting for in a restaurant or public meeting?

You can't tell me they aren't just getting closer to what they've been taught by their leaders:



It's not about protection from crime, it's not about hunting for food or any of that with the open carry crowd.

It's about putting the people on that list on notice. It's not paintball games now.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
6. Another death directly caused by
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jun 2014

the right-wing gun lobby, and all of those gun nuts who support the unregulated proliferation of lethal weapons in this country.

Support a gun control organization of your choice today, and help stop the gun violence epidemic in this country.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
11. she killed her kid
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jun 2014
A responsible, gun owning Kentucky mom stepped outside, leaving her 5-year-old son alone with his new birthday present — a brand new, shiny loaded .22-cal. rifle — and his 2-year-old sister... mom was outside just long enough for her son to fatally shoot his sister with his new present.

I think mom, ostensibly ~25, should be charged with at least negligent something or other, neg m/s or homicide, for it can't be argued this was not negligence on her part.

.. this is how it's gone for past 50 years or more: Friendly gun owner negligently responsible for his gun killing or wounding someone(s), then the shots fired, then the pending charges are met by gunworld with the 'gunowner has suffered enough, how can you be so cruel to charge him when he's so heartbroken/remorseful/upset?' Yeah, & so he/she walks, often with only a court admonishment about how guns should always be treated carefully & never left in the hands of young children, shame shame.

Duh, mom, you killed your kid, you killed your kid, that's it in a nutshell.
You apparently bought the gun, condoned it as a gift, gave your son the rifle, a LOADED rifle, left him alone with a 2 yr old, & duh, your worst nightmare comes true. Should we be sorry for you? Should we say to the court 'she's suffered enough leave her alone?' And the legacy for the 5yo son, he was the gunman, should we be sorry for you?
What do you think mom? should you just be given a stern admonishment from some perturbed judge?
True, your pain & suffering have just begun & will last forever; still up to the state to do something more than wristslapping, to make lar-gos think harder when their guns are around children, that they might go to prison.

{police} added that in the area it is not uncommon for parents to give their young children weapons. “In this part of the country, it’s not uncommon for a 5-year-old to have a gun or for a parent to pass one down to their kid,” he said.

Not much is tackier than giving a gun to a kid under 10 for a present, imo. And what the cop says above is more the reaon that mom should be given a more severe punishment than admonishment & 'she's suffered enough...'.

birthday boy: Mommy! Look what I gots! A GUN!
mom: Oh what a lucky boy you are!



barbtries

(28,769 posts)
12. how can that be called an accident?!
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 12:16 AM
Jun 2014

it's criminal, homicidal negligence!
we need somehow to change the language around these acts.

as an aside, i just discovered today that this group exists. trashed the other gun group ages ago. thank you for being here.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
13. Thanks for dropping by, and welcome.
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 01:54 AM
Jun 2014

Many people have trashed the "other group," and this one was formed as a safe haven Group in order to be able to discuss gun control without being constantly, and viciously, attacked by NRA apologists. Most of the hard core gunners have been banned from this Group, but a few returning gun trolls still try to disrupt from time-to-time.

To respond to your post, no this wasn't an "accident" in any sense of the word. It was negligent homicide at the least, and could have easily been prevented by the idiot and irresponsible gun nut parents.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
14. thank you billh58
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 02:12 AM
Jun 2014

MADD did it - somehow, maybe a deliberate campaign. it's a drunk driving CRASH, not an accident. accidents happen. drunk driving crashes are 100% avoidable.
this could and should be done the same way for these gun deaths and injuries that may not have been intended but in every single case were 100% avoidable if not for the negligence of someone - someone who needs to be held accountable. what responsible human being puts a loaded gun into the hands of a 5 year old then turns her back?!

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