Bernie Sanders

hobbit709

(41,694 posts) Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:21 AM Mar 2016

I guess we're not DEMOCRATS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110768156

From the constant red baiter in the Hillary group

Bernie Sanders is a "new flavor" for young people and Indies. Hillary wins big with DEMOCRATS.
What happened in MI, where Bernie won by 1.7 points in this open primary, was that Indies and young people who are responding to a BROAD and VAGUE message about the evils of Wall Street and an offer of free college tuition came out to vote in large numbers. Hillary won DEMOCRATS. Bernie is a new flavor and a lightening rod for anger and frustration at Washington and wanting big things that aren't going to appear anytime soon, like free tuition and Medicare for all. The Bernie supporters are motivated, and we have to give them that.

So what happened in MI was under-polled Indies and young people came out to vote and swayed it to Bernie by less than two points.
It is also very possible that some R's voted for Bernie, and some Hillary supporters stayed home thinking from polls that she was going to win easily.

What Hillary needs to do is to keep up the strong economic message and the message that she is the most prepared to beat The Trump and serve in the office of President. The jobs message is key. She needs to tout and explain her economic plan very well.

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I guess we're not DEMOCRATS (Original Post) hobbit709 Mar 2016 OP

Apparently some people think the Democratic party should nominate the candidate with less appeal... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #1

Seriously! Kall Mar 2016 #3

I went to sleep as a Democrat. Surprise! I woke up as a Democrat. In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #2

I am a 60 year old woman and have been a Democrat my entire voting life angstlessk Mar 2016 #4

I believe Sherman A1 Mar 2016 #5

I agree...there are more Independents than either repugs or Democrats angstlessk Mar 2016 #6

S/he keeps whistling past the graveyard. Poor dear. sarge43 Mar 2016 #12

"Hillary wins big with DEMOCRATS." What that author missed: noamnety Mar 2016 #7

I've had that one on ignore for a long time nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #8

Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 97 cantbeserious Mar 2016 #9

Thats ok, they still don't get it. Mbrow Mar 2016 #10

Well until you have to prove your party loyalty at the poll booth dana_b Mar 2016 #11

i don't want to appear to be presenting an ageist take...but at some point islandmkl Mar 2016 #13

If the DEMOCRATS want to lose in Nov they TBF Mar 2016 #14

I'm cool with that. Day after election day, I won't even be a dem in name anymore. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #15

There's going to be tazkcmo Mar 2016 #16

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

1. Apparently some people think the Democratic party should nominate the candidate with less appeal...

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:24 AM

Mar 2016

to "Indies". I wonder how that would turn out in the general election.

Kall

(615 posts)

3. Seriously!

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:32 AM

Mar 2016

Pay no attention to all those flashing red warning signs, passengers, I'm just going to hit the accelerator and head for that cliff.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)

2. I went to sleep as a Democrat. Surprise! I woke up as a Democrat.

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:25 AM

Mar 2016

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)

4. I am a 60 year old woman and have been a Democrat my entire voting life

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:35 AM

Mar 2016

and probably before...when 10 our catholic elementary school met JFK at the catholic high school in norfolk va.

So I guess I was a Democrat from age 10?

And I voted for Bernie in Detroit!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

5. I believe

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:38 AM

Mar 2016

That the individual who posted this "interesting" opinion may be in for a bit of an education.....

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)

6. I agree...there are more Independents than either repugs or Democrats

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:42 AM

Mar 2016

Let that sink in...then there is that pesky youth to contend with!

sarge43

(28,941 posts)

12. S/he keeps whistling past the graveyard. Poor dear.

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:12 AM

Mar 2016

noamnety

(20,234 posts)

7. "Hillary wins big with DEMOCRATS." What that author missed:

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:33 AM

Mar 2016

The Clintons helped create a lot of FORMER democrats.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)

8. I've had that one on ignore for a long time nt

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:36 AM

Mar 2016

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)

9. Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 97

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:42 AM

Mar 2016

eom

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)

10. Thats ok, they still don't get it.

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:48 AM

Mar 2016

Even if Hillary wins, she loses and so do we as a people. She won't win the GE. We will keep pushing back and doing our best to elect honest people to office.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)

11. Well until you have to prove your party loyalty at the poll booth

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:52 AM

Mar 2016

then that Indy's, that young person's, that Republican's vote counts JUST AS MUCH as a TRUE BLUE Democrat's vote. So that person in the Hillary group will just have to deal with it!

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)

13. i don't want to appear to be presenting an ageist take...but at some point

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:19 AM

Mar 2016

i want to ask some posters how old they are...only because there is a certain point where their age might mean they have no idea what core Democratic Party principles are all about...they've only known the DLC/TW party....

maybe they THINK they know all about our history, but it is obvious they either don't know or choose to reject the fundamental Democratic Party values and embrace the rightward direction the leadership has guided the party since the mid-80s...

current party leadership is a far cry from the FDR, Truman, JFK, RFK, LBJ, McGovern, Carter Democratic Party...but THAT Democratic Party is still alive...and kicking

TBF

(32,040 posts)

14. If the DEMOCRATS want to lose in Nov they

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:25 AM

Mar 2016

can keep going with the same losing policies and rhetoric. The working people of this country are tired are being given the shaft & they are particularly tired of the Clintons and their "free trade".

Last night was a turning point. People have decided they have had enough.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)

15. I'm cool with that. Day after election day, I won't even be a dem in name anymore. nt

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:43 AM

Mar 2016

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)

16. There's going to be

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:14 AM

Mar 2016

A whole lot fewer Dems after the primaries, too. DWS/DNC/DLC can take the credit for reducing the size of the Democratic Party base with their collusion and scorched earth campaign. I could give 2 figs about "The Party". It left me in 1992.

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