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leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:27 PM Mar 2016

Reminder: We Can Still Win Iowa (Reddit repost)

No, I'm not kidding here. It would seriously behoove us to do it, too.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/IA-D#0312

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/iowa

Martin O'Malley had 763 precinct-level delegates. This was converted into 8 county-level delegates.

Now, in normal circumstances this wouldn't matter. In a primary, the votes would just be "wasted", and in a caucus even one percent apart, the realignment would be meaningless. However, Hillary and Bernie were separated by a mere FOUR county-level delegates. And in Iowa's caucus system, a series of conventions occur after the initial caucus, the first being March 12 (three days from now) at the county level.

Just like in precinct caucuses, a candidate under 15% is unviable, and their voters must realign. What does this mean? It means that O'Malley has eight delegates-at-large who can legitimately swing the "virtual tie" to give us the technical win as opposed to Hillary.

If his delegates split 6-2 in Bernie's favor, it results in a perfect tie. If they split 7-1 or 8-0, he wins Iowa "for real". Therefore, if we can convince them to mostly support Bernie before the next big round of votes (something I think we can pretty easily do after this huge Michigan upset), Bernie wins Iowa and makes the state race 11-10 instead of 12-9.

So I'm paging /u/Aidan_King into here, just in case. We need to contact Governor O'Malley and also reach out to each of his delegates-at-large if there's any remote way to track them down and make the case before they get to their respective county conventions and succumb to pressures from Clinton delegates. It would be a really good news headline - "Sanders Actually Won Iowa" - going into these next five states!

Edit: Here is the delegate spread for the candidates. We can triangulate O'Malley's support to the particular precincts that gave him county delegates and work back from there.


https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/49ng7a/reminder_we_can_still_win_iowa/
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Reminder: We Can Still Win Iowa (Reddit repost) (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Mar 2016 OP
Very interesting!! NT xynthee Mar 2016 #1
I recall something about Ron Paul (ugh) delegates in Iowa eventually flipping Iowa for Ron Paul Turn CO Blue Mar 2016 #2
Come June 7 these delegates may be deciding the election. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #3
Well I read that 80% of O'Malley supporters chose Bernie as their second choice Kalidurga Mar 2016 #4
The Sanders for President subreddit has been doing incredible work starroute Mar 2016 #5

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
2. I recall something about Ron Paul (ugh) delegates in Iowa eventually flipping Iowa for Ron Paul
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

in the Iowa Republican caucuses. They did it level after level as the umteen hundreds of delegates get wittled down to the final National Convention delegates. The delegates at the primary level all stayed in touch with each other and the campaign, and their strategy was for so many of them to keep running for election for the next level, (if there are more volunteers for delegate than needed, then delegates actually have to campaign and give a speech for position of delegate for next level - those in attendance vote on their choices). The Paul delegates worked the system.

I have heard, but not researched it, that this could happen on the Democratic side in all of our caucuses if we were organized enough. The rules for allocation could be different for each caucus state and for the party in that state though.

I'm a delegate for the next level in CO - which is the County convention. We meet March 26 to vote for next level of delegates (and to vote for various other candidates and regents within the state itself).

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. Well I read that 80% of O'Malley supporters chose Bernie as their second choice
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

When I was talking to O'Malley supporters in real life at mixed Democratic events they broke for Bernie 100%. So, I am not sure tracking them down and talking to them is all that necessary since it is most likely they are already going to be on board.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. The Sanders for President subreddit has been doing incredible work
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

Over 200,000 tech-savvy subscribers -- and they've also got a ground game. In Michigan, they were coordinating giving people rides to polling places. Now they're doing the same in other states. This is as significant a grassroots phenomenon as the massive number of donations, but I've barely seen it mentioned.

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