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TM99

(8,352 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:48 PM Mar 2016

I am out of here y'all.

Well, since the floodgates were reopened the other day, I have received two bogus hides in two days. I don't intend to end up in 'Under Review' limbo, so I am leaving. And no place is safe from these swarms including this 'safe haven'. (hahaha!)

As a host of this group, I will respond to reported posts and the like, but I will not be posting anywhere on DU until at least after the general election. And frankly, I am not even certain then whether I will be back. If I do, I certainly will not be a star member or donate any further to this site.

The irony, which will be lost on many, is that the supposed minority victims are here and having a fine old time. But like Brother Ivan and Catherina, I am another minority Sanders supporter who is being forced to choose to leave or run off.

I don't walk on eggshells. I don't tolerate bullies. And as many of you are well aware, I am a passionate and very outspoken man. I was a member of DU in the early 2000's under a different email address & user name, but rarely posted. I became active and started posting under a new username (old email address was defunct) four years ago.

This site and its owners have revealed themselves to be extremely partisan and very neoliberal. As an independent progressive leftist, Clinton, this site, and its often rabid supporters have made it very clear that I am not welcome in this party or on these boards. If they drive enough of us away and burn enough bridges, the GE is not going to turn out well for the Democratic Party this year.

So after this thread my friends, if you wish to converse or read my musings (not that they are that noteworthy), I will only be at JPR and DI. At least at DI, the conservatives I am debating are honest Republicans and admitted rightists instead of the pseudo-conservative New Dems that are allowed to run free on this site. If they want an echo chamber, well they might just get one.

Good night and good luck!

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I am out of here y'all. (Original Post) TM99 Mar 2016 OP
I will probably be following shortly. StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #1
It ain't lookin' too good here. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #2
Selling out is easy to do... Ladyhawk Mar 2016 #31
I'll hang around here for a bit - but to tell the truth... NRaleighLiberal Mar 2016 #3
I understand what you mean by disillusioning. grasswire Mar 2016 #17
See you at JPR. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #4
I'm sorry to hear this. SoapBox Mar 2016 #5
Wow, this is something I hoped would not happen. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #6
You are so right. I'm out of here too MissDeeds Mar 2016 #7
Now I know the meaning of trying to post before it gets locked Gregorian Mar 2016 #11
yeah fairly sure I'll be removing DU from my speed dial and will retire from politics the rest of PatrynXX Mar 2016 #15
You will be in good company TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #8
Well, that's a bummer. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #9
Maybe return after it's right. Gregorian Mar 2016 #10
Hopefully we can find you at the other site. I'm about at the end of my rope as well. jillan Mar 2016 #12
I posted that it's becoming LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #29
I agree with everything you just said. Especially about telling us who to vote for, it's jillan Mar 2016 #33
Good night and good luck as well Hydra Mar 2016 #13
Is there a way to delete or close one's account on their own? Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #20
Hey!! RobertEarl Mar 2016 #16
I just went through and put every h supporter on ignore artislife Mar 2016 #18
Dang, your posts are always awesome. Vattel Mar 2016 #19
I joined JPR too. Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #21
Appreciate the thoughtful note and your posts. See you at the other place. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #22
Then they win. Dawgs Mar 2016 #23
I appreciate that well thought out, from the heart, post Babel_17 Mar 2016 #24
What is JPR? Duckfan Mar 2016 #25
Jackpine radicals RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #26
Jackpineradicals pugetres Mar 2016 #27
One by one... RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #28
They're all over at dorkzilla Mar 2016 #34
Their hoped-for purge seems to be working... villager Mar 2016 #30
I am sad to hear this. Your posts are some of the best: thoughtful and bbgrunt Mar 2016 #32
Just when I thought I was out, TM99 Apr 2016 #35
Welcome back! in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #36
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. It ain't lookin' too good here.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

There's going to be a massive realignment. ( i.e exodus). And DU will rival youtube as a site for serious political commentary.

That's the way they ---- site admins and owner(s) --- want it and so it shall be.

Clinton and Co. .... if successful.... will have lots of goodies to hand out. We all make choices and that ( i.e selling out) is the way some people choose to waste ( ooops. I mean "live&quot their lives.

So it goes.

See you further down the road.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
3. I'll hang around here for a bit - but to tell the truth...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:09 PM
Mar 2016

it's all been quite disillusioning. I am thankful I have a great family and wonderful pets and interesting pursuits to keep me busy. Time not spent here will be focused on my gardening, writing, blogging, encouraging those who I am fortunate to speak to at events to dig in the dirt and grow great food.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
17. I understand what you mean by disillusioning.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:26 AM
Mar 2016

During the Clinton years in the WH, I spent a lot of time at freerepublic protecting the Clintons until I was banned there, and then monitoring the place into the Bush years. The Bushies there exhibited the same kind of cult of personality. The tactics and hive mind were the same as we see here. It was poisonout. And there's a lot of that here, now. I'm a progressive and a Democrat. I don't like seeing the toxic behavior we face here every day.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
5. I'm sorry to hear this.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

This site is a mess...had to believe this is what the owners want.

Not really Democratic.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
7. You are so right. I'm out of here too
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

This is a neoliberal DINO site and the fix is in for Bernie and his supporters. Bernie Sanders is the most ethical and honest candidate of my lifetime and offers the best hope for this country. I've been on DU for eight years and am appalled by the hard right turn this site has taken. There is nothing Democratic about Democratic Underground. It is disengenuious to masquerade as a Democratic website.

This post may get me banned, and I don't give a rat's ass; I'll be long gone by the time the hammer falls. This site is nothing more than a Clinton echo chamber - bought and paid for, and yes, I mean that, bought and paid for. I am so done with DU and the pathetic facade of it being a Democratic forum.

This is my last post here. I am taking my ethics and integrity elsewhere and committing my time, efforts and money to getting Bernie Sanders elected.

So long DU, and the corrupt DINO candidate you are trying to ram down our throats . I am out of here.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. Now I know the meaning of trying to post before it gets locked
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:16 AM
Mar 2016

I wanted to say, nice knowing you. I have to say I've experienced similar things lately. It has been a revelation. Let's get Bernie in the White House. Ciao!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
15. yeah fairly sure I'll be removing DU from my speed dial and will retire from politics the rest of
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:52 AM
Mar 2016

the year if the Dino gets the party nod. I still will vote for Liberals which includes writing in someones name in the GE and if it comes to that I hop others do the same . I won't vote against everything I stand for. only Lemmings do that

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. Well, that's a bummer.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:33 AM - Edit history (1)

I know some of them are alerting on Bernie supporters like never before, especially after they start baiting threads.
But, they have no influence on the election.

Their agenda is to tear down DU simply because some of them were suspended
They admitted that on their special forum.
Nevertheless, regardless of what they say here or there, they have no influence on the election.

Some of them have already voted, and the election in the state they live in either wound up in a tie with Bernie, or Bernie won in that state.
So, their anger is not justified.






Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
10. Maybe return after it's right.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

I was emotional, and got my first alert a few weeks ago. I've been here a while too. Right after the amnesty, I instantly noticed the same behavior from some individuals as I saw before. Of course I'm not innocent. But after they came back I'm not engaging at all. I feel justified to simply move on. I hate to lose your voice. That's what makes this so valuable. Whatever is right though.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
12. Hopefully we can find you at the other site. I'm about at the end of my rope as well.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:33 AM
Mar 2016

This place has become UNdemocratic underground.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
29. I posted that it's becoming
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:19 AM
Mar 2016

Republican Above Ground -- this in the Bernie group -- and got alerted on. The result: 7-0 to keep it. Some Hillary supporters think these tactics are a good idea, but they do her no favors. They seem to be enraged that so many who post here have no interest in voting for a bought and paid for corporatist, so they try to silence us. Then they have the nerve to demand our loyalty. Good luck with that.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
33. I agree with everything you just said. Especially about telling us who to vote for, it's
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:28 AM
Mar 2016

the opposite of being democratic!

Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #14)

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
16. Hey!!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:18 AM
Mar 2016

Don't yall dare bail out. We need you here!! You can't leave us here with all these PUMAS!

Hides are a sign you've been passionate. Hides are a sign you have pricked them. Hides are good. Hides are healthy!

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
18. I just went through and put every h supporter on ignore
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:05 AM
Mar 2016

I felt my blood boiling and wishing harm to them and their children. I knew I had to get their ugly words out of my sight. It is like reading the comments on a Yahoo new article. This may alleviate the anger..


seriously, I want to vote for what would be best for the 99 percent in November, but I know if I read their words, I would never vote for her. Never. This is the only way I can even see a glimmer of a chance.

This Sunday, Bernie is in town and next Saturday I get to caucus! Yippee. I hope it isn't the last time I vote for someone with a D after their name.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
19. Dang, your posts are always awesome.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:55 AM
Mar 2016

You are too intelligent for the swarm. They always just end up looking like fools if they try to debate you.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
21. I joined JPR too.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

It is sad that the owner's of this site are turning it into a neo-liberal DINO site.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
24. I appreciate that well thought out, from the heart, post
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:09 PM
Mar 2016

Best wishes!

"You see, I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations. Every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we're gone, our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit that the part of me that is going will very much miss the part of you that is staying."



 

RepubliCON-Watch

(559 posts)
28. One by one...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:10 AM
Mar 2016

We are losing key members which is sad. I didn't think we would lose MannyG, WillyT, and now you. This is sad freakin sad tbh.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
30. Their hoped-for purge seems to be working...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:48 AM
Mar 2016

After more than a decade in this place, I can't quite figure out why in hell I should stay, either....

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
32. I am sad to hear this. Your posts are some of the best: thoughtful and
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:18 AM
Mar 2016

totally lucid. But it's like pearls before swine. The owners of this site have clearly chosen to play this card and don't deserve our continued support and clicks. I guess they figure they don't need us any more either, so I understand your motives.

On the other hand, I am loving some of the push-back that I see here from progressives and still think it is valuable to have some articulate posters telling the truth for all those who read here but are politically unsophisticated and/or who simply lurk to become educated--especially during this primary season. DK has also shut down progressives and if we simply disappear from well-known sites it will be like the media shut out of Bernie's campaign.

So I'll probably stick around a little longer, but I'm not particularly adept at dealing with bullies. If Bernie doesn't become the nominee, I will find other things to do with my time and energy. Life is short and getting shorter.

If things settle down a bit I hope you will reconsider. Good luck and best wishes.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
35. Just when I thought I was out,
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

they pull me back in.

I am going to limit my posting but damnit, I can not tolerate lies instead of facts, smears instead of truths, and bullying instead of adult communication.

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