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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:57 AM Mar 2016

Have the admins barred any Hillary supporters in the way the have Jackpine Radical, Loonix,

Manny, Willy T, etc.?

Is the purge just against Bernie supporters or have Hillary supporters also been "evicted" so to speak?

I don't follow this kind of thing that carefully.

Anyone?

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Have the admins barred any Hillary supporters in the way the have Jackpine Radical, Loonix, (Original Post) JDPriestly Mar 2016 OP
Look Skinner is a Clinton Supporter. What do you think the answer is? CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #1
In 2008 I think a few Pumas got tombstones. Not since Afaik. leveymg Mar 2016 #2
Name removed were all Clinton's RobertEarl Mar 2016 #3
I strongly disagree with your characterization. merrily Mar 2016 #53
its feeling a little like Dunkirk around here. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #4
Bernie deepestblue Mar 2016 #5
Hillary supporter VanillaRhapsody has been Flagged For Review for a long time progree Mar 2016 #6
Right. Thanks for mentioning NYC_SKP another one of my favorites. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #7
Mine too, sigh. n/t progree Mar 2016 #8
Oh man - that is someone else that I miss. jillan Mar 2016 #9
When was NYC_SKP PPR'd? intheflow Mar 2016 #12
June 4, 2015 progree Mar 2016 #16
that was for calling Clinton the C-word CreekDog Mar 2016 #27
Bernie was called a sonafabitch by a 840high Mar 2016 #28
That's not what he said TSIAS Mar 2016 #31
The thing about NYC_SKP Rhiannon12866 Mar 2016 #36
Yes ........ I feel horrible that his comment was turned into something it absolutely polly7 Mar 2016 #46
I understood it Rhiannon12866 Mar 2016 #47
I didn't know right off it was a troll ... it must have been hard for all of polly7 Mar 2016 #48
I agree, that one hurt a lot Rhiannon12866 Mar 2016 #49
You're a good person, Rhiannon. polly7 Mar 2016 #50
Thanks so much for the kind words Rhiannon12866 Mar 2016 #51
No, the "name removed" to whom NYC_SKP replied used "cunning stunt." merrily Mar 2016 #55
Links -- Troll's post and NYC_SKP's reply progree Mar 2016 #58
Thank you. The troll, aka "name removed" did use the term "cunning stunt," as my post said. merrily Mar 2016 #64
So, his 'crime' was outing a troll he knew was a troll. And all I see hear is how polly7 Mar 2016 #67
Well, we now have links to BOTH posts, so we have context. We know NYC did not just post merrily Mar 2016 #68
I didn't believe it for a second - and I REALLY knew what they were saying was wrong polly7 Mar 2016 #71
Please see Reply 64. Thank you. merrily Mar 2016 #65
That would be a lie Duckhunter935 Mar 2016 #32
First, NYC_SKP says he was mocking "name removed" (while the new poster's post was still on the merrily Mar 2016 #56
Please see Reply 64. Thank you. merrily Mar 2016 #66
Posters are allowed to abandon old accounts and start a new one. Autumn Mar 2016 #17
Yup. I'm always on the lookout for low-post-count people who have very familiar styles progree Mar 2016 #19
I think it was all the du mails she sent artislife Mar 2016 #24
VanillaRhapsody's sockpuppet account is doing just fine, though. frylock Mar 2016 #34
I have 8 people on ignore. bunnies Mar 2016 #39
If your account never stops being reviewed, you are, for all practical purposes, PPR'dd merrily Mar 2016 #54
Oh, here's a real wild Hillarian with Flagged For Review status -- Beausoir progree Mar 2016 #10
If we're counting FFR's, then maybe cali is or was included Jim Lane Mar 2016 #11
I don't disagree. The OP was asking about Hillary supporters. I'm sure there are plenty of Bernie progree Mar 2016 #13
The post of mine that you responded to may be inaccurate. I'm editing now. Jim Lane Mar 2016 #15
One of our hosts is FFR. Autumn Mar 2016 #20
Hmm, very recently I see progree Mar 2016 #22
I love Prism!! artislife Mar 2016 #25
Really? polly7 Mar 2016 #43
"Is hifiguy still timed out?" Well, he's FFR with less than 5 hides progree Mar 2016 #44
I was FFR'd for over a week once and finally pm'd to ask about it. polly7 Mar 2016 #45
I was FFR'd for 10 days last year... BeanMusical Mar 2016 #59
Wow ... I thought it was just me, and mine was a while ago, too. polly7 Mar 2016 #60
Yep, totally agree. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #62
FFR Puglover Mar 2016 #33
Two of those hides were in the same thread if I remember correctly. Autumn Mar 2016 #41
Holy moly Brother_Love Mar 2016 #40
It's a one way affair TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #14
Jackpine Radical was never banned (nt) TacoD Mar 2016 #18
Jackpine Radical passed away. Autumn Mar 2016 #21
Hillary supporter Bravenak has been Flagged for Review progree Mar 2016 #23
Gosh. Whatever for? Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #29
Two hides TSIAS Mar 2016 #30
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #35
That one should have been banned a long time ago. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #61
I have snipped and saved a few DU mails that I have received artislife Mar 2016 #26
I have too. Really, really ugly ones. polly7 Mar 2016 #63
I doubt it. ananda Mar 2016 #69
Pardon? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #70
giftedgirl77 was on FFR from about 3/18 to 3/21, now Status: Active progree Mar 2016 #37
8 hides in a little more than two weeks, but no longer FFR. stranger81 Mar 2016 #38
One got a hide in Skinner's announcement thread / Autumn Mar 2016 #42
Not that I know of. merrily Mar 2016 #52
K&R for exposure / reminder. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #57
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. Name removed were all Clinton's
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:09 AM
Mar 2016

Not really. JK

Ours were banned because they were kinda PUMA. These days we see a lot of it - the PUMA, but not too much from big names. When Bernie takes the lead, we'll see some go bye-bye. Maybe, if we're lucky.

progree

(10,894 posts)
6. Hillary supporter VanillaRhapsody has been Flagged For Review for a long time
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:17 AM
Mar 2016

She was due to come off of timeout on about Feb. 1, but apparently the "Flagged For Review" keeps her from posting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=296000

No, I don't know any Hillary supporters that have actually been PPR'd.

Another name for your list of PPR'd Bernie supporters is NYC_SKP (the "c" man)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
27. that was for calling Clinton the C-word
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:30 AM
Mar 2016

if a Clinton supporter has called Bernie something equivalent, I'd support their PPR too.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
31. That's not what he said
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:51 AM
Mar 2016

He called something she did a "cunning stunt". Implied, but didn't come out and say it. Unlike a DU'er who called Bernie a "motherfucker" and wasn't even hidden.

Rhiannon12866

(204,818 posts)
36. The thing about NYC_SKP
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

Was that he quoted the post he was replying to as an attempt to out a frequent DU troll/disruptor. He was a long time DU.2 mod and he recognized her. She's been around since DU.1 and has been banned countless times.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
46. Yes ........ I feel horrible that his comment was turned into something it absolutely
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:25 AM
Mar 2016

wasn't - completely ignoring what he was responding to.

Rhiannon12866

(204,818 posts)
47. I understood it
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:34 AM
Mar 2016

As did those of us who were mods with him, as did most of us who were on MIRT at the time. That particular disruptor is well known to all of us, so NYC_SKP knew who he was replying to, was certainly mocking her. Because of that, I was hoping he would have been allowed to come back.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
48. I didn't know right off it was a troll ... it must have been hard for all of
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:36 AM
Mar 2016

you who did. It was sad, in any case. Watching people here try to make him out to be what he isn't was horrible to watch.

Rhiannon12866

(204,818 posts)
49. I agree, that one hurt a lot
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:40 AM
Mar 2016

He was not only a good mod, but a friendly and funny guy. That particular troll is one of the most persistent and can turn nasty in a hurry. It was obvious to me that he was mocking her...

polly7

(20,582 posts)
50. You're a good person, Rhiannon.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:41 AM
Mar 2016

I'm sure he appreciates that you hurt for him and knew what was going on.

Rhiannon12866

(204,818 posts)
51. Thanks so much for the kind words
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:54 AM
Mar 2016

The DU.2 mods got to know each other, and the others were very helpful to me when I first joined them. NYC_SKP always had a joke for me when I ran into him on the board. I wish he had just alerted MIRT when he spotted her since he wasn't on the team for that term, but I guess he couldn't resist having some fun with her...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
55. No, the "name removed" to whom NYC_SKP replied used "cunning stunt."
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 04:01 AM
Mar 2016

NYC_SKP replied with some other euphemism to let the newbie troll know NYC knew what the newbie troll was saying.

I think people should stop trying to describe what happened and just link to the posts in question.

progree

(10,894 posts)
58. Links -- Troll's post and NYC_SKP's reply
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

[font color = blue]>>I think people should stop trying to describe what happened and just link to the posts in question.<<[/font]

I agree. Here is NYC_SKP's post, in reply to a troll:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026775414#post55

Unfortunately, troll and his/her post has long been removed, so that context is missing there.

Here it is including the Troll's post that NYC_SKP replied to -- thanks to JTFrog's previous capture of it, and others' probably also saved and posted in various places)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6785132

For convenience, I'm going to just repeat it below the dashed line:


[font color = brown]==========JTFrog's post: ========================================[/font]
[font color = brown]==========JTFrog's post: ========================================[/font]

This was posted in another thread by a mirt member.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026777709#post347

Troll's post:

Feel the Bern.

If she's not ready to handle spontaneous exchanges,

she is not fit for the Presidency. This is all smoke and mirrors, IMO. Yes, I am voting for Bernie but just thinking of her even pulling such a cunning stunt is pretty shockingly appalling.

I'm not sayin'--I'm just sayin'...

Skip's reply:

Welcome to DU, Feel the Bern! And yes, it's a Cunning Stunt!

I say that to myself every day, over an over.

It can be a tongue twister!

Posted for informational purposes only.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
64. Thank you. The troll, aka "name removed" did use the term "cunning stunt," as my post said.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

I was correct about that. However, my post also said that NYC_SKP replied with another euphemism to let the troll know that NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying.

I was mistaken about "another:" My post should have said

"NYC_SKP replied with the same euphemism to let the troll know NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying."

I apologize for saying "another" eupthemism when I should have said the "same" euphemism. However, I don't think that whether NYC used another euphemism or the same euphemism is a material point.

"NYC_SKP replied with the same euphemism to let the troll know NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying" is still very, different from saying that

NYC_SKP got banned for calling Hillary the C word without giving any context or motive, or even mentioning that NYC_SKP was replying to a troll, as in Reply 27 on this thread. It is also very different from saying even "He called something she did a "cunning stunt" without mentioning NYC_SKP was replying to a troll to let the troll know NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying.




polly7

(20,582 posts)
67. So, his 'crime' was outing a troll he knew was a troll. And all I see hear is how
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

he was such a misogynist and used the 'c' word! But didn't. People here are so dishonest lately. This place used to have integrity.

The hate has gone off the charts. I hope they sleep well at night.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
68. Well, we now have links to BOTH posts, so we have context. We know NYC did not just post
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:45 AM
Mar 2016

something out of the clear blue sky or call Hillary the C word. The rest of my post is based on NYC_SKP having posted elsewhere (Discussionist, I think?) that he was mocking "name removed." I believe him because he was here too long as a poster, a mod at DU2 and a host not to know better.

Either the admins don't believe him as to his motive or it doesn't matter. At the very best case for the DU process, he was banned instantaneously after many years, many posts and much service to the board because of what people assumed was his motive, based on his political opposition to Hillary.

Meanwhile, directly calling Sanders a "mother fucker" is not even hideworthy, let alone worth an instant ban.

People need to decide for themselves whether double standards are in play.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
71. I didn't believe it for a second - and I REALLY knew what they were saying was wrong
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

once I looked at the thread it was said on and what it was in reply to. I didn't know that who he was replying to was a well-known troll, as another host told me yesterday and that NYC_SKIP would have absolutely also known this. He threw the troll's own words back at her with a twist.

Calling Sanders a motherfucker and getting away with it is disgusting.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. First, NYC_SKP says he was mocking "name removed" (while the new poster's post was still on the
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 04:06 AM
Mar 2016

board). Second, Sanders was called a mother fucker and the poster did not even get a hide.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
24. I think it was all the du mails she sent
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:11 AM
Mar 2016

I know I got one or two...

They all seem to be written by the same hand.


In crayon.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
54. If your account never stops being reviewed, you are, for all practical purposes, PPR'dd
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:54 AM
Mar 2016

ASURINO™-Account Still Under Review In Name Only™

progree

(10,894 posts)
10. Oh, here's a real wild Hillarian with Flagged For Review status -- Beausoir
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:06 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=117089&sub=trans

He/She/It got 12 hidden posts on its transparency page. Here's an ATA post that led me to it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12599832

A post by morningfog:

Here is what the 5 hide ban used to prevent.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=12511520610&alert=19#post19

This OP was allowed back when the ban was lifted and went straight to offensive personal attacks and disruption. Just read their replies.

(Skinner's response: ) Now they're flagged for review. Bummer for that person.
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. If we're counting FFR's, then maybe cali is or was included
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:11 AM
Mar 2016

I thought I'd read that she still can't post because she's FFR, but her profile doesn't reflect that. So I don't know what the story is. Perhaps she was FFR and the review just recently ended.

Certainly cali's style is to use strong language more freely than I do. She picked up her fifth hide for calling a post "Bullshit", which I generally wouldn't do (even though that particular post was, shall we say, conspicuously without merit). Nevertheless, I note that the amnesty has included a Clinton supporter who was on timeout for saying "You are a horrible fucking person" and "Fuck you!" to other DUers.

progree

(10,894 posts)
13. I don't disagree. The OP was asking about Hillary supporters. I'm sure there are plenty of Bernie
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016

supporter FFRs too.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. The post of mine that you responded to may be inaccurate. I'm editing now.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

I understand the distinction you're drawing. My point was that, if we give the admins some credit for FFRing a Clinton supporter, then, to get an accurate assessment of the (im)balance, the OP's list of banned Sanders supporters should be expanded to include those on FFR.

I'm editing because I'm not sure of cali's status.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
25. I love Prism!!
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

Gosh, he and I have had some good exchanges. Sending him lots of love and affection!

polly7

(20,582 posts)
43. Really?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:05 AM
Mar 2016

Prism is one of the best posters on this site. He's got so much knowledge and experience with what he discusses and more empathy than many others combined. He is a treasure here. Just as the others who were banned permanently. Is Hifiguy still timed out? He's another that brings so much here - I just don't understand the reasoning behind silencing these posters.

progree

(10,894 posts)
44. "Is hifiguy still timed out?" Well, he's FFR with less than 5 hides
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:19 AM
Mar 2016

I just looked:
From Minneapolis, Minnesota, so that's the equivalent of 4 hides (I'm from there too )

Seriously,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=268997

# His status is Flagged For Review
# His transparency page isn't showing, so that tells me he has less than 5 hides
# So it appears that something else is going on besides the number of hides
# His last post was on March 1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1386057

polly7

(20,582 posts)
45. I was FFR'd for over a week once and finally pm'd to ask about it.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:23 AM
Mar 2016

I thought maybe they just had forgotten, but Hifi's status makes me wonder. That is just so unfair. He was/is a good, long-time poster here.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
59. I was FFR'd for 10 days last year...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

But I regularly see Hill Fans being un-flagged (is this a word?) after 24 hours. So fair and balanced of the admins.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
60. Wow ... I thought it was just me, and mine was a while ago, too.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

There seems to be a pattern here.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
33. FFR
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:32 AM
Mar 2016

And only four hides. Transparency page not shown. I guess consistency got thrown out the window with the extra special crunchy goodness that is the new rules as well.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
14. It's a one way affair
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016

The most obnoxious and disruptive posters have been given free reign on this site and it is an absolute mess of race baiting and labelling in a full out assault on discussion .

No matter the subject they just want to shut it down , so in spirit with the site owners wishes I will no longer utilize this forum that encourages bullying behavior with absolutely no repercussions other than the biased owner stating they will look into a matter .

After this decision can anyone honestly think they will do anything to moderate the tone of discussion here ?

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
30. Two hides
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:49 AM
Mar 2016

It's not related to the much ballyhooed incident. If someone has two posts hidden in the same day they are automatically flagged for review.

Response to progree (Reply #23)

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
26. I have snipped and saved a few DU mails that I have received
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:18 AM
Mar 2016

In case they shut down my account.

One is pretty sad, only because I liked that poster at the time.

progree

(10,894 posts)
37. giftedgirl77 was on FFR from about 3/18 to 3/21, now Status: Active
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:39 PM - Edit history (1)

I got locked out again for like 4 days bc of multiple hides in one day
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7701786


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=304197
(Hillary supporter)
Hides on March 1, 3, 3, 12, 16, 16, 17, 18

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
38. 8 hides in a little more than two weeks, but no longer FFR.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

This place is turning into a freaking cesspool.

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