Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumHave the admins barred any Hillary supporters in the way the have Jackpine Radical, Loonix,
Manny, Willy T, etc.?
Is the purge just against Bernie supporters or have Hillary supporters also been "evicted" so to speak?
I don't follow this kind of thing that carefully.
Anyone?
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Not really. JK
Ours were banned because they were kinda PUMA. These days we see a lot of it - the PUMA, but not too much from big names. When Bernie takes the lead, we'll see some go bye-bye. Maybe, if we're lucky.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)deepestblue
(349 posts)When not if, mark my words
progree
(10,894 posts)She was due to come off of timeout on about Feb. 1, but apparently the "Flagged For Review" keeps her from posting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=296000
No, I don't know any Hillary supporters that have actually been PPR'd.
Another name for your list of PPR'd Bernie supporters is NYC_SKP (the "c" man)
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)progree
(10,894 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)intheflow
(28,443 posts)That surprises me.
progree
(10,894 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)if a Clinton supporter has called Bernie something equivalent, I'd support their PPR too.
840high
(17,196 posts)Clinton supporter. He's still here.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)He called something she did a "cunning stunt". Implied, but didn't come out and say it. Unlike a DU'er who called Bernie a "motherfucker" and wasn't even hidden.
Rhiannon12866
(204,818 posts)Was that he quoted the post he was replying to as an attempt to out a frequent DU troll/disruptor. He was a long time DU.2 mod and he recognized her. She's been around since DU.1 and has been banned countless times.
polly7
(20,582 posts)wasn't - completely ignoring what he was responding to.
Rhiannon12866
(204,818 posts)As did those of us who were mods with him, as did most of us who were on MIRT at the time. That particular disruptor is well known to all of us, so NYC_SKP knew who he was replying to, was certainly mocking her. Because of that, I was hoping he would have been allowed to come back.
polly7
(20,582 posts)you who did. It was sad, in any case. Watching people here try to make him out to be what he isn't was horrible to watch.
Rhiannon12866
(204,818 posts)He was not only a good mod, but a friendly and funny guy. That particular troll is one of the most persistent and can turn nasty in a hurry. It was obvious to me that he was mocking her...
polly7
(20,582 posts)I'm sure he appreciates that you hurt for him and knew what was going on.
Rhiannon12866
(204,818 posts)The DU.2 mods got to know each other, and the others were very helpful to me when I first joined them. NYC_SKP always had a joke for me when I ran into him on the board. I wish he had just alerted MIRT when he spotted her since he wasn't on the team for that term, but I guess he couldn't resist having some fun with her...
merrily
(45,251 posts)NYC_SKP replied with some other euphemism to let the newbie troll know NYC knew what the newbie troll was saying.
I think people should stop trying to describe what happened and just link to the posts in question.
progree
(10,894 posts)[font color = blue]>>I think people should stop trying to describe what happened and just link to the posts in question.<<[/font]
I agree. Here is NYC_SKP's post, in reply to a troll:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026775414#post55
Unfortunately, troll and his/her post has long been removed, so that context is missing there.
Here it is including the Troll's post that NYC_SKP replied to -- thanks to JTFrog's previous capture of it, and others' probably also saved and posted in various places)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6785132
For convenience, I'm going to just repeat it below the dashed line:
[font color = brown]==========JTFrog's post: ========================================[/font]
[font color = brown]==========JTFrog's post: ========================================[/font]
This was posted in another thread by a mirt member.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026777709#post347
Troll's post:
If she's not ready to handle spontaneous exchanges,
she is not fit for the Presidency. This is all smoke and mirrors, IMO. Yes, I am voting for Bernie but just thinking of her even pulling such a cunning stunt is pretty shockingly appalling.
I'm not sayin'--I'm just sayin'...
Skip's reply:
I say that to myself every day, over an over.
It can be a tongue twister!
Posted for informational purposes only.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I was correct about that. However, my post also said that NYC_SKP replied with another euphemism to let the troll know that NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying.
I was mistaken about "another:" My post should have said
"NYC_SKP replied with the same euphemism to let the troll know NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying."
I apologize for saying "another" eupthemism when I should have said the "same" euphemism. However, I don't think that whether NYC used another euphemism or the same euphemism is a material point.
"NYC_SKP replied with the same euphemism to let the troll know NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying" is still very, different from saying that
NYC_SKP got banned for calling Hillary the C word without giving any context or motive, or even mentioning that NYC_SKP was replying to a troll, as in Reply 27 on this thread. It is also very different from saying even "He called something she did a "cunning stunt" without mentioning NYC_SKP was replying to a troll to let the troll know NYC_SKP knew what the troll was saying.
polly7
(20,582 posts)he was such a misogynist and used the 'c' word! But didn't. People here are so dishonest lately. This place used to have integrity.
The hate has gone off the charts. I hope they sleep well at night.
merrily
(45,251 posts)something out of the clear blue sky or call Hillary the C word. The rest of my post is based on NYC_SKP having posted elsewhere (Discussionist, I think?) that he was mocking "name removed." I believe him because he was here too long as a poster, a mod at DU2 and a host not to know better.
Either the admins don't believe him as to his motive or it doesn't matter. At the very best case for the DU process, he was banned instantaneously after many years, many posts and much service to the board because of what people assumed was his motive, based on his political opposition to Hillary.
Meanwhile, directly calling Sanders a "mother fucker" is not even hideworthy, let alone worth an instant ban.
People need to decide for themselves whether double standards are in play.
polly7
(20,582 posts)once I looked at the thread it was said on and what it was in reply to. I didn't know that who he was replying to was a well-known troll, as another host told me yesterday and that NYC_SKIP would have absolutely also known this. He threw the troll's own words back at her with a twist.
Calling Sanders a motherfucker and getting away with it is disgusting.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)He never used that word
merrily
(45,251 posts)board). Second, Sanders was called a mother fucker and the poster did not even get a hide.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Autumn
(44,986 posts)progree
(10,894 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)I know I got one or two...
They all seem to be written by the same hand.
In crayon.
frylock
(34,825 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)I bet the sock is one of em.
merrily
(45,251 posts)ASURINO-Account Still Under Review In Name Only
progree
(10,894 posts)He/She/It got 12 hidden posts on its transparency page. Here's an ATA post that led me to it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12599832
A post by morningfog:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=12511520610&alert=19#post19
This OP was allowed back when the ban was lifted and went straight to offensive personal attacks and disruption. Just read their replies.
(Skinner's response: ) Now they're flagged for review. Bummer for that person.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I thought I'd read that she still can't post because she's FFR, but her profile doesn't reflect that. So I don't know what the story is. Perhaps she was FFR and the review just recently ended.
Certainly cali's style is to use strong language more freely than I do. She picked up her fifth hide for calling a post "Bullshit", which I generally wouldn't do (even though that particular post was, shall we say, conspicuously without merit). Nevertheless, I note that the amnesty has included a Clinton supporter who was on timeout for saying "You are a horrible fucking person" and "Fuck you!" to other DUers.
progree
(10,894 posts)supporter FFRs too.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I understand the distinction you're drawing. My point was that, if we give the admins some credit for FFRing a Clinton supporter, then, to get an accurate assessment of the (im)balance, the OP's list of banned Sanders supporters should be expanded to include those on FFR.
I'm editing because I'm not sure of cali's status.
Autumn
(44,986 posts)progree
(10,894 posts)#8 Prism
Sorry to hear. I'm not familiar with him.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Gosh, he and I have had some good exchanges. Sending him lots of love and affection!
Prism is one of the best posters on this site. He's got so much knowledge and experience with what he discusses and more empathy than many others combined. He is a treasure here. Just as the others who were banned permanently. Is Hifiguy still timed out? He's another that brings so much here - I just don't understand the reasoning behind silencing these posters.
progree
(10,894 posts)I just looked:
From Minneapolis, Minnesota, so that's the equivalent of 4 hides (I'm from there too )
Seriously,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=268997
# His status is Flagged For Review
# His transparency page isn't showing, so that tells me he has less than 5 hides
# So it appears that something else is going on besides the number of hides
# His last post was on March 1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1386057
polly7
(20,582 posts)I thought maybe they just had forgotten, but Hifi's status makes me wonder. That is just so unfair. He was/is a good, long-time poster here.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)But I regularly see Hill Fans being un-flagged (is this a word?) after 24 hours. So fair and balanced of the admins.
polly7
(20,582 posts)There seems to be a pattern here.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)And only four hides. Transparency page not shown. I guess consistency got thrown out the window with the extra special crunchy goodness that is the new rules as well.
Autumn
(44,986 posts)Brother_Love
(82 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)The most obnoxious and disruptive posters have been given free reign on this site and it is an absolute mess of race baiting and labelling in a full out assault on discussion .
No matter the subject they just want to shut it down , so in spirit with the site owners wishes I will no longer utilize this forum that encourages bullying behavior with absolutely no repercussions other than the biased owner stating they will look into a matter .
After this decision can anyone honestly think they will do anything to moderate the tone of discussion here ?
TacoD
(581 posts)Autumn
(44,986 posts)progree
(10,894 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)nt
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)It's not related to the much ballyhooed incident. If someone has two posts hidden in the same day they are automatically flagged for review.
Response to progree (Reply #23)
Post removed
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Really nasty person.
artislife
(9,497 posts)In case they shut down my account.
One is pretty sad, only because I liked that poster at the time.
polly7
(20,582 posts)That made my stomach sick.
ananda
(28,837 posts)This site is very conservative.
polly7
(20,582 posts)progree
(10,894 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:39 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7701786
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=304197
(Hillary supporter)
Hides on March 1, 3, 3, 12, 16, 16, 17, 18
stranger81
(2,345 posts)All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
This place is turning into a freaking cesspool.