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merrily

(45,251 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:05 PM Mar 2016

Please heed.

The owner of this board has posted about certain short-term changes. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=5098

These short-term changes include people who have been on enforced vacations or suspensions returning to post. The changes also include allowing unlimited hides without suspension. From everything I've read, contested Democratic primaries have been rough. Allowing unlimited hides without enforced vacations is not going to make it less rough and may make it more rough.

As far as I know, however, banning of posters will continue and so will reviewing a poster's account, which review may be brief or may last indefinitely, perhaps eternally. So, no one has carte blanche to post anything that he, she, it or they feel like posting.

Some believe that the left gets off easier than the right and some believe that the right gets off easier than the left. Whether any of that is so or not is beside the point. Whatever it is, it is what it is and probably won't change.

If you don't want to risk being PPR'd or reviewed indefinitely, be careful, no matter what provocation you get. If you don't care about hides or banning, you're an adult (or over 13, anyway) and I am not going to try to tell you what to do.

Peace.

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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. I have started to just full ignore them when I see them.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

No interaction missed, just mean-spirited poo-flinging, whether short and nasty, or numbingly verbose and condescendingly authoritarian and self-important.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Someone posted the other day about 300 on ignore. I didn't know there were 300 active posters!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016

I seem to see the same names on every thread. Then again, I am usually in the Bernie Group or GD: P.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
8. I saw that, too and was amazed as well. I have always been hesitant to use ignore and silence a
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

voice that might actually contribute something worthy once in a while but, since Super Tuesday and since Skinner has made these changes I think it best I take caution.

Seems to help with the blood pressure, too

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Thank you. I've read many reports of putting people on ignore and that
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

may work, too--as long as you don't react to someone before putting him, her, it or them on ignore.



Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
12. I discovered a down side to full ignore yesterday......
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

Someone posted an OP regarding the large attendance to a Bernie rally in Utah and right out of the gate, the #1 reply was a snide comment. It didn't sit well with me so I put the that person on full ignore immediately. Later when I went back to the thread I saw that, for me, the first comment showing was #7 so I had missed #2-6 which were obviously comebacks to the first one. I went back and removed the poster from the full ignore list and low and behold there were the missing replies. I found out I had missed some really good comments that put the poster in his/her place. Then I went back and put him/her on full ignore.

It's kind of a pain but I sure enjoyed my fellow Bernie supporters responses.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. Well, this is David Allen's site so perhaps he needs his peeps back: regardless
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

of the hides they have aquired. He can do whatever he wants, and bring back great ceasar's ghost if he can.

The drawback is emboldened haters with an axe to grind. IMHO: his bread and gold-star butter.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. It's true that the owner of any board can do whatever he, she, it or they want.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

And the reason for that, aside from the investment of time and money in the board, is probably that posters can do whatever they want as well--meaning that no one is forced to post on any board. I will add: If gold stars or clicks were the only issue, no one would get banned.

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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
9. I can't believe I forgot to post the relevant Rollerball quote
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016
P.A. Announcer: [before the start of the New York game] Your attention please... Rule changes for tonight's World Championship Game: No substitutions, no penalties... and no time limit!






That's what some threads are like.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. As my OP states, it is what it is. People need to decide which risks they want to take.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016

I think some of us may have to think, "Is this the post for which I won't mind being banned without warning or the option to edit?"

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
11. "Be bold, be bold, but not too bold"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/eft/eft27.htm

Yes. Though I'm not going to lose my sense of humor about this. This was inevitable, same as the Obama vs. Clinton days, and like then it's partly because of the decision to not have moderators and super moderators. Basic politeness shouldn't be optional. Once you let that go by the wayside, things snowball during a contentious and contested primary.

Self moderation by the community is the superior way to go, but not in a highly polarized, highly charged, environment. That environment is seen as a challenge by some, and that leads to a predictable pattern of combative posts. And it's asymmetric combat.

All of that is my opinion. Everyone's mileage may vary.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. You're very welcome. I hate to see people taken by surprise.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

I have no quarrel with any poster who want to flame out, as long as he or she intends to flame out.

I am trying to avoid people losing it momentarily in the newer climate or assuming incorrectly that anything goes because suspensions will not take place.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. Just remember... in doing this Skinner "Let the dogs out"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

Act 3, Scene 1, line 273 of William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar: "Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war".

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