Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumIt appears it is okay to post about Bernie supporters but not Hillary supporters
This post by kath was locked by a Hillary supporter host as "off topic":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511533345
I have seen plenty of posts made by Hillary supporters about what Bernie supporters have supposedly said around the internet but now it appears they will close ranks to protect the racist rants of one of their own.
kath
(10,565 posts)I was in the middle of replying to one of the posts, but when I tried to do so I got the"you cannot reply to locked threads" message.
I have written to the Host who locked it to find out why.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Heavy Hillary supporter and has been known to shut down threads fairly quickly without a second thought.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Either supporters of Sanders don't apply as much or they don't get chosen as much. I don't apply.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)But I do agree that it has become almost impossible to speculate what drives a person to become a Hillary supporter because it is immediately met with a swarm of umbrage and hurt feelings.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Agschmid (a host of the General Discussion: Primaries forum).
merrily
(45,251 posts)Also, a thread is unlikely to get locked if no one alerts.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)My question was about them, not about the OP to which you linked.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)It could be that no one alerted. It also could be that many hosts are supporters of Hillary.
I think that post could have stood, if the OP did not mention that the poster was also a DUer, which makes the post meta and/or a call out.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)I'm sure it was alerted, yes. But posts by the person in discussion about racism go on for days without being locked. This one displayed her own vile brand of racism and explains the baiting displayed on DU.
The link to the KOS screen shot that is very hard to dismiss.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Bernie does not speak to African Americans is about the primary. Whether you agree or disagree, and I obviously disagree, it is an issue about a candidate. Saying a DUer made an anti-Semitic post on another board is not about a candidate in the primary.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)That makes it as relevant to GD as the posters own screeds about her feeling it's an issue on DU itself, imo.
There is a daily barrage on DU talking about how each camp feels about the other's posts on their candidate as well as and their 'perceived' opinion of whether they are racist or not. How is it that this one poster's racist (anti-semitic) ideas are to be protected and hidden when others are not.
Mebbe I'm not getting it after all, but I'm sure glad it was exposed. It may have been hidden on GD but there's no taking it back. I may have to accept that DU will try to hide it, but it's out there now. I can't measure the time I've spent reading and trying to understand the venom the poster had. She has now lost any measure of credibility when she says anything.
Any other posters that try to discuss whether they feel Bernie does not speak to African Americans - I WILL continue to listen to and consider their viewpoints. But this one? In any other DU incarnation that poster would be wearing the granite pizza. How far this site has fallen.
merrily
(45,251 posts)site, which will dub "Post #2." Post #2 was about Bernie. The locked post was about Post #2.
Oh, I'm glad Post #2 was exposed as well. However, that is a different issue from whether the lock as off topic for GD: P was valid.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)about 'who's on first' by Abbott and Costello (I'm dating meself here!). I understand you now.
merrily
(45,251 posts)First time I saw that was when we took our son to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown.
At that time, anyway, it was the only cartoon there.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)I would love to make a trip to Cooperstown someday. Awesome!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Then, someone told me the drive on these little back roads was so much nicer than the fastest route and, besides, we could stop in Cooperstown and see Hall of Fame. Neither of us is a sports fan, but my son somehow was born a sports nut, anyway. He was in hog heaven.
I enjoyed the art museum and architecture of Cooperstown and the Abbott and Costello clip, LOL There's even an opera company nearby. And an excellent theater company near the Falls.
(If anyone reading this wants to go, choose lodging on the lovely Canadian side, not the honky tonk American side.)
KoKo
(84,711 posts)who has had so many hides and time outs, it would make one wonder why they are not "Under Review," indefinitely" or the final judgement that has gotten some long time, well respected DU'ers PPRD for a "one off."
Seems to me it was locked for META?
Whatever...it is the usual "stuff" from one who has had too many hides to count. Now their rants are being posted here from from KOS?
As you say:
In any other DU incarnation that poster would be wearing the granite pizza.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)This, however was different. This was stuff she wrote elsewhere that a Kossack found and posted. Stuff that some don't want DUers to see. Vile, racist, disgusting anti-semite rant stuff. Things that on previous DU incarnations would have gotten a permanent tombstone. But this season, not so much. Now, she gets to keep spewing here while some damn fine DUers have been shown the door for less.
merrily
(45,251 posts)At least, that is my understanding from people who have served as hosts.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...even though a HRC supporter.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's not about the character of the host who got stuck with the job of locking.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)That poster is always posting on DU about racism, so why is it forbidden to see her own racist rants elsewhere? Only conclusion that can be drawn is she is protected by Clinton supporter that doesn't want the ugly truth shown on DU. But they can't erase the evidence on the net - it's out there for good.
Disgusting diatribe.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)She has no problem calling out anyone and everyone for being racist, whether they are or not. Her own anti-Semitism should be front and center to give a full picture of where she truly stands and why.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)psychology of those who don't go through life hurling vitriol at contradicting targets, like we're some weird Jack Vance race that turns deceased family members into furniture or something
840high
(17,196 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)Enjoy your stay and make sure to tip the waiter.
dmm80
(38 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)They have to shut the curtains...
Vattel
(9,289 posts)but God forbid that anyone call out the hypocrisy and racism of one of the chief smearers.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)did not realize who made the antisemitic post. They thought it was just random garbage from the Internet. If I thought that, I would hide it too. Why bring all that shit here?
kath
(10,565 posts)Don't think I ever properly thanked you for starting this thread. It was much appreciated.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)I am now locked out of my other thread here in the Bernie group, due to someone stalking our protected Group.
So if you or anyone else wants to kick that thread occasionally, I think it's a good idea to keep shining sunlight on anti-Semitism and other bigotry.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)But where is your other lock?
I know exactly who we are discussing...why the Admin. allows the trouble they stir is beyond me...really bad for the site.
kath
(10,565 posts)(If anyone has jury results, I'd like to see them)
kath
(10,565 posts)I edited the blocked OP that Matt linked to in his OP for this thread, in order to make it more clearly UN-Meta, but a jury still hid it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511533739