in terms of the level of insult a Democratic candidate can get that is fine here and in terms of what posts by a Sanders supporter get alerted on.

I don't think many read the message from admin, just just accepted it that "hey I am free to get back to what we were doing with no timeouts now."

I think most are ready for a new home.

Where they called Bernie a "condescending Motherf****er" and let it stand I gave up on anything resembling fairness or even handedness on this so called "discussion" board...

Hillary. Seems fair.

him a condescending mf? Wow.

But the underlying situation is not even the point for this thread. The point is what can be said about Sanders and supporters of Sanders on this board with no consequences.

Those kinds of posters add nothing to the discussion, they just take up bandwidth, which consumes my battery power.

Use the force, Art.

(I'm still in love with Alec Guiness, too!)

If you ever have an opportunity to see Captain's Paradise on TV, Amazon, Netflix, whatever, do.

It's not academy award material, but Alec Guiness could not possibly have been more quintessentially Alec Guiness anywhere than he was in that film. Captain's Paradise is to Alec Guiness as Arsenic and Old Lace was to Cary Grant.

But, I digress....sorry.

It's a very handy weapon

And speaking of Arsenic and Old Lace, that was probably the most enjoyable play I was ever in. I played the Peter Lorre character

been more Cary Grant than he was in that film--with the possible exception of Gunga Din. I remember seeing that on TV when I was 9 and promptly falling in love with Cary Grant. I am still in love with him. (I am totally loyal for life to all my totally imaginary loves. )

It is a test for justice. Totally a violation of ToS and I am waiting to see if it is hidden or not. It should legitimately be hidden.

it was hidden, but not before 88 people had responded.

This is generally a good time for Sanders' Supporters to alert. Overnight seems to be a good time for Hillary supporters to alert.

and often get called on for jury service. Paying attention here.

One question, what happens when a post that has already been alerted on and not hidden, which might or might not be apparant, is re-alerted on a subsequent time?

In theory, once a jury has voted to leave a thread, subsequent alerters receive a message that the post on which they alerted has been alerted on previously and survived the jury.

Group hosts, however, can receive multiple alerts about the same thread. I think, originally, the idea may have been that those alerts would come only from within the group and the hosts would want to know if one thread was upsetting multiple group members. However, as we know, most or all of the alerts in this group and the populist group come from people who do not post in either of those groups, except maybe occasionally to disagree with what regular group members are posting. I think pinning the threads that draw the most flack from outside the group is a brilliant response to that kind of harassment.

In the case of jury alerts, then, perhaps there should be a way to appeal what might appear to be unjust jury decisions...

We know the current situation is temporary; further changes pending...

before posting a question, in case Skinner had already posted an answer to my question.

From that, it seemed quite clear to me that Skinner was very relieved to have gone to the jury system. I believe I recall his referring to his involvement in the mod process as "soul numbing" or something equally sad. Now, I have no clue whether my skimming missed something else he said, or whether he will change his mind to adjust for the new situation. But my impression was that he wanted to be involved as little as he could manage.

Candidly, I've juried a lot and I've refused only once or twice. It is indeed soul-numbing sometimes, and I only see a fraction. I can't say I blame him.

Because, obviously, that is DU worthy.

A poster had called Bernie a "jack***" my alert was simply, oh so it would be acceptable to call her highness a b****? 5 to 2 to hide keeping hope alive.

But when it comes to that group, all of a sudden it's ok to post any kind of scurrilous tripe? And it's not alert-stalking when they do it?

I get protected, to a point. Unwanted or trollish intruder, fine. But smears and lies? No. It's that old fire in a theater thing - just because someone wants to scream fire in a theater doesn't mean they shouldn't get a hand smack for doing it. Even if that theater is in a protected group!

And if the powers that be truly want to make groups protected, then they should make the board's software hide 'em unless you join 'em.

Look at this post and note the date and time http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104554

Then look at the reply and note the date and time http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104559

I can't even imagine why that thread was alerted on once. I believe pinning threads that get alerted on excessively was a brilliant response our hosts created. However, juries don't operate that way.

Our significant other isn't going to play fair. He/she is venting, grave dancing, and all that while also, inexplicably, using emotional blackmail to get us back together. So logic doesn't enter into this. Arguments aren't about the issues.

Just waiting till we get our separate domiciles. lol

I like to see them in their uncensored ways. It reminds me of why I haven't supported h in either primary.

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AFAIK, logic and dramatically double standards are mutually exclusive.

deeply disturbing experience.

The amount of Bernie supporters here has dropped tremendously. While Hillary supporters stay. The Bernie supporters that are here tend to be a tad less active with lower post per reading threads count and the Hillary supporters who stay are more active and keep up on DU issues.

Sanders group
Number of subscribers: 966
Number of people trashing: 163
Number banned: 298
Ratio of subscribers to banned: 3.24

Clinton group
Number of subscribers: 365
Number of people trashing: 319
Number banned: 734
Ratio of subscribers to banned: 0.50

As to both groups, I will say only that I am a firm defender of the right of both groups to be as safe as their members and chosen hosts think they should be.

People can post whatever they want about Hillary and Hillary supporters in several forums, subject only to jurying. They don't have to relieve themselves in the Hillary Group, too. People can post what they want about Bernie and Bernie's supporters in several forums, subject only to jurying. They don't have to relieve themselves in this group, too.

Just my personal opinion. And I would again like to commend and thank avid Hillary supporter Gman for his totally respectful behavior whenever he posted in this group accidentally.

Apparently one of the qualifications to get banned from the Hillary Clinton group is to make a single post and be a Bernie Sanders supporter. It doesn't even matter what you post... it can be something supportive of Hillary or someone else in an off-topic post.

I know who banned me, I PMd for a reasoning behind the ban, I got none.

difference is that one group does as you so wonderfully termed it "keep up on DU issues" more and engages in concerted action to drive people off DU and, AFAIK, the other group does neither. That is my personal, off the cuff impression of it, anyway. Of course, I could be wrong. I don't perseverate over it much. I mostly just read and post, but things come to my attention just doing that and my memory is not terrible, so.... impressions happen without my trying. But, that's all they are, impressions.

Did you alert on the first listed results to have admin review? Perfect example of those who need their jury duty revoked.

changed. I honestly don't recall which posts were involved, though.

Being told we are not true dems and if we leave the party that would be a good thing. Also said that we support white power or some dumb crap like that

The response? Nothing. Never heard back. Second time that's happened. I don't alert that much but when something is blatantly over-the-top I will.
I guess that alerts from Bernie supporters don't count.

Either the post was self deleted or it was a less than 100 post new user who was taken down by MIRT. For the latter, the software will delete all the posts of that new user/troll and replace the user with "name removed". You'll not receive results for deleted posts.

So it's normal.

but perhaps this explanation still applies.

I know that because the pumper was spamming one of my Bernie Group threads. A couple of days later, I clicked on his or her name to check the profile and the profile said "name removed." But neither the name nor the posts were removed from my thread.